Space Hunter M

Godzilla 2000, the last theatrically released Japanese film in the series is no stranger to bizarre revisionism. When it was brought to DVD, per Toho's request, the cheesy THE ? END title was deleted, but the color seems to have also been changed significantly. The U.S. theatrical version (or something much closer to it) is available on the screener and Spanish subtitled tapes. Note that the Japanese version has always looked pretty different on its own, but the "theatrical" coloring is closer to it.

Some examples:

U.S. theatrical version

DVD. A lot of the composites suffer from the new grading.

So much of the greens are missing from this version. Oddly, the DVD removes a lot of the blue and orange contrast displayed in a lot of scenes.

Blu-Ray. A lot of the greens are back in full force, but at the same time, some very questionable coloring changes have been made, particularly in the reds and oranges.

U.S. HDTV/Streaming version

Blu-Ray

Then you have completely oddball, nonsensical alterations, like this particularly infamous CGI shot:

Godzilla IS comprised of green and dark purple in this movie, but Jesus Christ, he looks like Barney on the Blu-Ray...

A few more restored greens on the Blu-Ray, such as this shot.

Bottom line, the Blu-Ray improves on some things the DVD screwed up, while introducing a host of new problems. The HDTV version is the way to go I guess.

Maybe I strongly worded my response. I didn't mean to personally insult anyone, but dubbing is undeservingly scorned enough as it is. Seven Samurai also had a dub, but IIRC Toho actually destroyed all of the prints that had it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is9d_Um0sdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnbh23UM1F8

I dubbed the uncut 96 minute version of the fi<span style=“text-decoration: line-through;”>r</span>st Godzilla movie into English using the original music and effects track and the voice talent of Stephen Hawking.

There is an MKV available on Cinemageddon and a Criterion DVD9 syncable .ac3 at 192kbps (PM for this).

TV's Frink said:

Space Hunter M said:

Since when have there been English dubs of Kurosawa films?

Since when they were fist released in the states you pretentious schmucks. I thought this crowd cared about alternate versions and such.

 I have no interest in the fist release thank you very much.

 See, dubbing makes people illiterate.

Since when they were fist released in the states you pretentious schmucks. I thought this crowd cared about alternate versions and such.

Akira Kurosawa's Yojimbo, dubbed in English (a DVD5 on ADC). It was actually pretty entertaining in a sincere way and very well scripted. I gotta hear the Rashomon dub next.

There are some dubs that have the M&E track playing with the 4% speedup but the voices are recorded at normal speed. They sound really weird when you slow them down. There's also this awful Italian King Kong vs. Godzilla DVD that speeds the movie up so much it only runs 72 minutes. I kid you not. The audio is unlistenable.

PAL DVDs that have corrected pitches but still obviously play at 25fps are worse in my opinion.

kaarma33 said:

The DYRL Toho English dub LD has large English (arial font?) credits on a black background with the first 1/2 of Mari Iijima's Angel's Paints song. The credits are revealed with a screen wipe from left to right.  This DYRL LD also has burned in Japanese subtitles.

 Are they exactly like this by any chance? These are from Toho's international version of The Return of Godzilla, made the same year.

The Thai can't even ADR films in their own language without it looking weird.

Thai's next? Oh shit, awesome.

yoda-sama said:

mario64 said:

Flexicon9 said:

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Harmy is in the news today.

Kind of hate to see this as it may raise flags with the powers that be who may then try to shut Harmy down :(

 Especially when these articles pop up in financial sections...

 They call themselves OTers, they are hackers on steroids!

Anybody have the English LD with the international credits/visuals? I believe the original export title dropped the DYRL subtitle.

The dubbing industry is pretty much in universal decline. Even the rushjob dubs that came out of Hong Kong from the '60s to early '90s had WAY more character than the garbage that followed.

I recall you showing the raw captures being played at 29.97fps in many of your behind the scenes featurettes.

The Final War (Toei, 1960) / The Last War (Toho, 1961)

Even though both end with world destruction, The Final War presents a much more nihilistic viewpoint on civilization.

Destination Moon vs. Rocketship X-M

Disney is the same company that digitally recolored Peter Lorre's face to make him look more seasick, so even if it is confirmed, so what?

The PS78 is straight from projectable 35mm, and tape.

The Andy Warhol Empire Strikes Back.

What, nobody noticed that stuff like the French and German dubs have stuff like the Tantive alarm and the nosier S-Foil sounds? I figured that since all foreign dubs were stereo and had the changes, they could be of some use to this project.

At the same time, the foreign stereo track is missing a couple of the mono additions. The added breakdown noises to Red Leader's X-Wing crash are not present.

The stereo foreign music and effects track has most of the changes.

My local theater still plays 35mm of new releases, so it's not entirely dead yet.

it wasn't the airplanes. it was beauty killed the beast