SonnyGFunk

SpliceRunner1138 said:

Hi everyone, longtime Star Wars fan (since early childhood) and recently heard about the D+77 project, it looks absolutely amazing. I own legal copies of the films, and would like to obtain access, for personal viewing if possible. Still finding my way around the forums. Google brought me here after I searched for information about the project, but I haven’t been able to locate any details on how to access it. Any help would be appreciated, many thanks!

They’re available on https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/

Register an account and then you can download them.

This is very cool! Were there also Hong Kong releases of ESB and Jedi?

Shadow98 said:

Hey, just wanted to share a few resources that might be helpful when tracking changes in the Star Wars Special Editions — both audio and video.

There are some great threads on TSWT.com:

• Original Trilogy Dolby Atmos Theatrical Synced Soundtracks
• SRDXX 1997 AC-3 THX Laserdisc Audio Synced to the Original Star Wars Trilogy
• “I Never Noticed This Before” – Audio Edition
• The White Executor Bridge in Return of the Jedi (Blu-ray, 4K, Disney+)
• Have I Discovered a Special Edition Change?

There’s also this spreadsheet, which includes tons of Special Edition differences — and even pre-Special Edition audio and video changes.
It can be a bit overwhelming at first, but it’s definitely a valuable resource:

• Shot List Spreadsheet – v0.6

And if you’re digging deeper into the audio side specifically, this could be super helpful:

• Index of OT.com Threads on All Things Audio

Hope this helps!

Only thing to note about that shotlist is that it incorrectly claims that a lot of ESB SE audio changes were in the 70mm mix. There wasn’t a proper copy of that mix when the list was created so incorrect assumptions were made, the 70mm Print A over on the TSWT forums is the best source to use for tracking audio differences in the 70mm mix.

RabidFace said:

Are there any plans to somehow allow a lossless theatrical audio track be able to be muxed in? Those stupid extra frames 😉

There is a lossless 5.1 audio track included in the download separately to mux in yourself.

SomethinSomethinDarkSide said:

Wow, the TESB and RoTJ special editions look amazing.

I agree, the colour looks very nice on them and is much improved from the untouched SDTV broadcasts.

Infi said:

How is it going?

I wouldn’t expect a release in quite a while if I’m being honest, the donors to this project never received a full grindhouse and presumably are not being consulted in spite of the money that they gave to fund this project.

If you’re looking for a 35mm preservation of AOTC you can view, 4K02 just came out on the TSWT forums, and is no longer in its grindhouse state and has been cleaned up.

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com

13las said:

That’s awesome! I’ll have to check those things out. The audio changes (especially in Empire) are such a nightmare to keep track of. But those are a few that I’ve never even heard anyone else mention.

I think it would probably be a good idea to put together a streamlined version of my script (without all my dumb jokes), that could be fact-checked and cross-referenced before I get too deep into putting this thing together. I think I should have time to do that within the next couple of days.

4K02 has now released so that would be a great resource to include in your comparison videos. There is also a list of all the changes that have been identified going from 35mm to DVD.

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/diamant-attack-of-the-clones-2002-35mm-print-b-uhd-released.7882/page-4#post-114858

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/visual-comparison-of-theatrical-vs-home-media-releases-for-attack-of-the-clones.7070/

The ESB 70mm print that was scanned a while back can also be found here on the TSWT forums, along with a change list from 70mm to 35mm.

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/the-empire-strikes-back-1980-70mm-print-a-rare-original-cut.5104/

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/70mm-vs-35mm-the-empire-strikes-back.5157/

Just entered the ballot for 2 tickets today, so we’ll see what happens!

I’d be very interested in a project like this, the 4Ks look great quality wise but the teal tint is a bit off putting, and it would be nice to listen to the original sound mixes along with them.

I’d be very interested in a project like this, the 4Ks look great quality wise but the teal tint is a bit off putting, and it would be nice to listen to the original sound mixes along with them.

CatBus said:

hharlan23 said:

I was talking to Harmy, not you.

Enjoy your stay.

He’s posted on a few other threads with equally tone deaf posts

Over on the TSWT forums we now have 4K99 2.1, which has been cleaned up and now has the English crawl and alien subtitles.

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/diamant-phantom-menace-the-1999-czech-35mm-released.7076/

4K02 is also having cleanup done and is expected to release in the near future

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/diamant-attack-of-the-clones-2002-35mm-print-b-funded.7882/

There is a scan of 35mm print of ROTS but it has not been cleaned up yet and the crawl is in Spanish

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/tn1-revenge-of-the-sith-4k05.828/

If film scans aren’t your thing I’d recommend Schorman’s prequel theatrical reconstructions. They use the HDTV preservations as their main source and are very well put together, TPM and AOTC will be receiving updated versions soon which will use the cleaned up footage from 4K99 and 4K02 instead of the grindhouse footage used previously.

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/the-phantom-menace-schormans-theatrical-reconstruction-1080p-v1-1.976/

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/attack-of-the-clones-schormans-theatrical-reconstruction-with-cinema-dts-audio.988/

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/schormans-revenge-of-the-sith-theatrical-version.708/

Omni said:

Bizarrely, I saw some people on twitter upset that they’re “going against George’s vision” or whatever. People are so stupid, they don’t even realize they should also respect 1977 George Lucas’ vision.

I don’t have twitter but I’d love to see some of those posts hahaha

Although people make fun of maclunkey (rightly so) I think there’s a way it could have been done to make the alterations to the Greedo scene much better. Since George was so intent on making Han appear like ‘less of a killer’ in the 1997 SE this is my idea for how it should have been done.

The scene plays out the same as it does in the theatrical version up until the “I’ll bet you have” shot. Immediately after this shot is the maclunkey shot but with the translated dialogue in subtitles “This will be the end of you” with the gunshot and smoke in the same shot. We then cut back to the theatrical with Greedo slumping to the table.

This way we put more of an emphasis on Greedo about to kill Han and it also doesn’t interrupt the flow of the sequence. I personally think the sequence should have never been altered at all, but if we accept that it had to be changed I think would have been an improvement over the 1997 SE version of the shot which is by far the worse out of the 5 versions we’ve had.

walterlouis said:

SonnyGFunk said:

https://www.bfi.org.uk/news/bfi-film-film-festival-line-up-star-wars-twin-peaks#:~:text=We’re delighted to announce,in its original 1977 version build now gg

Exciting stuff!!!

Do we know if this BFI screening of the 1977 Star Wars will be the same version as the one on the ‘GOUT’ DVD, or are there any differences in the print they’re showing?

Well it’s a 1977 IB Tech Print, it has the original crawl and presumably the 1977 stereo mix instead of the 1993 stereo remix on the GOUT. It’s obviously going to be vastly superior to the GOUT in terms of picture quality since it’s a 35mm print only a few generations away from the negative with unfaded colour as opposed to the non anamorphic laserdisc transfer on the GOUT.

Croweyes1121 said:

SonnyGFunk said:

Croweyes1121 said:

Also wondering if any of the previous betas are any better than v1.0. I know there was a sharpening mistake that happened for v1.0, and I wonder if maybe Beta 5 didn’t have this issue and possibly looks better as a result.

That issue is in every beta, it happened during the initial cleanup stage of the print.

Man, that is such a shame. What’s worse is that you can literally see it happen. The first reel isn’t affected by it and looks far better than the rest of the film. I know v1.0 just came out, but toggling between this and 4K77/4K83, I just can’t help but feel like this could be so much improved. I hope they get a better source down the road and can do the original version of the film a bit more justice.

There are better sources available now and there will be a v2.0 at some point in the future, understandably however it won’t be done for a while since releasing v1.0 took a lot of effort and it’s likely Rob will want a rest before committing tons of time to cleaning ESB prints again.

Croweyes1121 said:

Also wondering if any of the previous betas are any better than v1.0. I know there was a sharpening mistake that happened for v1.0, and I wonder if maybe Beta 5 didn’t have this issue and possibly looks better as a result.

That issue is in every beta, it happened during the initial cleanup stage of the print.

Just watched the WIP videos and they were very good, can’t wait for more! Now that we have a 70mm preservation of ESB the visual and audio changes are now properly documented, and we also know that there were later 70mm screenings which used the updated effects used in the 35mm version thanks to the second 70mm preservation we now have. For AOTC we also now have a 35mm scan so the visual changes are also much more well documented.

https://www.bfi.org.uk/news/bfi-film-film-festival-line-up-star-wars-twin-peaks#:~:text=We’re delighted to announce,in its original 1977 version

Exciting stuff!!!

hharlan23 said:

Did you make the Respecalized versions of the 1997 versions of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi?

Only A New Hope got a respecialized version.

stretch009 said:

SonnyGFunk said:

JadedSkywalker said:

Thank you SonnyGFunk and You-Too. A nice looking release.

I was wowed by the colours on these renders, particularly ROTJ which looks incredible. I have no doubt that if Team Blu had released ESB and Jedi back in the day they would have received universal acclaim.

Are you talking about 97 or Theatrical?

The theatrical ones in particular, I opened up Jedi after rendering it and was amazed with how good it looked.

JadedSkywalker said:

Thank you SonnyGFunk and You-Too. A nice looking release.

I was wowed by the colours on these renders, particularly ROTJ which looks incredible. I have no doubt that if Team Blu had released ESB and Jedi back in the day they would have received universal acclaim.

I am pleased to announce that using You_Too’s original AviSynth scripts I was able to release the theatrical GOUT Project Blu v2 versions of ESB and ROTJ that Dark Jedi never got around to rendering out. They are available over on the TSWT Forums.

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/the-empire-strikes-back-1980-theatrical-edition-project-blu-v2-team-blu-scripts.7820/

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/return-of-the-jedi-1983-theatrical-edition-project-blu-v2-team-blu-scripts.7821/

For those of you that have downloaded my releases of the unreleased Team Blu ESB and ROTJ 1997 SE projects over on the TSWT forums, I have updated them to replace the youtube rips of the 97 SE Trailers with LD captures and Cinema DTS audio, as well to include a variety of subtitle options, courtesy of schorman. I have also replaced the AC3 stereo audio with PCM stereo audio and removed the subtitles I included previously to reflect the content of the ANH Team Blu release better.

This project looked very promising, hard drive crashes seem to be the bane of so many WIP projects 😦