SonnyGFunk

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

oojason said:

They are still leaking

I always found the “some guy randomly saw the videos in his YouTube recommendations” story a little fishy.

Seems more likely to me this was leaked by someone working on the restoration.

As the guy in question, I can confirm this is no true…

So how are things still leaking? lol

Wouldn’t they have immediately fixed the auto-uploader and made everything private when they were aware it had leaked?

Hard to believe someone working there isn’t involved if things are still leaking.

Well, you better believe it.

That answered none of my questions lol

They didn’t fix the uploader? How are things still leaking?

There’s a fair few of us that have been monitoring the channel since TGWNN first discovered it. The channel has a tendency to upload, then deactivate, then reactivate when another upload is done. The original ALI YT channel was deactivated for quite a while and a new channel sprang up, but then that channel was also deactivated. It was replaced by another channel, which is still active today, and continues to upload.

We have seen countless notes about revisions to their auto upload script, we are on v10 now and it actually seems to be less secure than the earlier versions as there have been an insane amount of video and audio clips released these past few weeks.

Glad to be here on this day!

Fruit672 said:

Wait?! for the ROTJ vimeo clip, its of the deleted sand storm scene… Are they restoring the deleted SCENES!? Sorry not in the whole loop so idk everything. But OMG! omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg OMG!!! Hopefully they restore and release the scenes that haven’t been shown yet as well like the extended sailbarge sequence.

There was also a Vimeo clip from the SW deleted scene of Luke working on the moisture vaporator. Alas, we only managed a screenshot and not a download.

DrWhoFanJ said:

Just wondering whether anyone has a HQ speed-corrected audio-only version of this yet (or clear instructions on how to create one from a DVD rip).

I only need the audio as the larger project of which it is a part is an audio-based one.

(EtA: I have also just remembered that I would in fact need a direct copy of the original non-UK master as well to do the project properly. Details of the differences can be found at the The Millennium Effect website’s page on the movie.)

Hi, after some searching and discussing with other people I learned that there is a high quality capture of the original US broadcast on myspleen which has the original frame rate and correctly pitched audio. You can send me a PM if you’d like a copy.

I’m still not clear as to the origins of these “fanmade scans” from 2012, do you have a source from where they were acquired?

doubleofive said:

SonnyGFunk said:

Could you actually list the sources you used for this project, please? As per the Site Rules for Fan Projects:-

I’m pretty sure that we established he is using 4K97, but for some reason he is being coy about it.

Well they downscaled it because how could it be better than SD?

Yes we all know HD wasn’t invented in 1997!!!

Could you actually list the sources you used for this project, please? As per the Site Rules for Fan Projects:-

I’m pretty sure that we established he is using 4K97, but for some reason he is being coy about it.

fanO.U.Tpreserver4K77 said:

I can’t wait for this to come out

Director alt account?

fanO.U.Tpreserver4K77 said:

Hello guys, I am new to this forum and recently have been doing a late of research on the original unaltered theatrical versions of Star Wars. I have also downloaded the Puggo Grande trilogy as an MP4 and I have watched it on my iMac’s QuickTime Player. I have enjoyed watching the trilogy however it kind of really upsets me how they’re only in a 480p video quality. I got the idea that I could use sowtware and programs such as iMovie, DaVinci Resolve Studios, etc. to upscale the videos to 4K or even 8K if possible and use the upscales as digital high quality raw print scans to create my own preservation. I own the 2019 digital Blu-Ray version of the trilogy and the 1997 Special Edition Fullscreen VHS tapes that are almost in mint condition. I also plan to by getting a copy of the 1995 VHS tapes boxset. I have been inspired by old post made by Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda, team_negative1, Harmy, Laserman, Zion, etc. I plan to make this fan preservation the same quality as, if possible better than, Harmy’s Despecialized Edition. This is a dream come true for me, however in order to do this it’s going to take a lot of money, I estimate $200,000 give or take. First I need to get 12TB iCloud+ since I’m going to be doing this on my iMac. Not to mention expensive of the shelf software. When I finishing the preservation (If I even do it, life is hard) I plan on buying a PC and transferring the preservation there and upscale it again. I plan on starting this project asap. However, I will need a lot of help and money to do this. If anybody has any helpful advice please let me know, thank you. Also if anybody has a new mint condition copy of the 1995 Star Wars VHS tapes boxset, please lot me know.

This has to be a troll

SpliceRunner1138 said:

Hi everyone, longtime Star Wars fan (since early childhood) and recently heard about the D+77 project, it looks absolutely amazing. I own legal copies of the films, and would like to obtain access, for personal viewing if possible. Still finding my way around the forums. Google brought me here after I searched for information about the project, but I haven’t been able to locate any details on how to access it. Any help would be appreciated, many thanks!

They’re available on https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/

Register an account and then you can download them.

This is very cool! Were there also Hong Kong releases of ESB and Jedi?

Shadow98 said:

Hey, just wanted to share a few resources that might be helpful when tracking changes in the Star Wars Special Editions — both audio and video.

There are some great threads on TSWT.com:

• Original Trilogy Dolby Atmos Theatrical Synced Soundtracks
• SRDXX 1997 AC-3 THX Laserdisc Audio Synced to the Original Star Wars Trilogy
• “I Never Noticed This Before” – Audio Edition
• The White Executor Bridge in Return of the Jedi (Blu-ray, 4K, Disney+)
• Have I Discovered a Special Edition Change?

There’s also this spreadsheet, which includes tons of Special Edition differences — and even pre-Special Edition audio and video changes.
It can be a bit overwhelming at first, but it’s definitely a valuable resource:

• Shot List Spreadsheet – v0.6

And if you’re digging deeper into the audio side specifically, this could be super helpful:

• Index of OT.com Threads on All Things Audio

Hope this helps!

Only thing to note about that shotlist is that it incorrectly claims that a lot of ESB SE audio changes were in the 70mm mix. There wasn’t a proper copy of that mix when the list was created so incorrect assumptions were made, the 70mm Print A over on the TSWT forums is the best source to use for tracking audio differences in the 70mm mix.

RabidFace said:

Are there any plans to somehow allow a lossless theatrical audio track be able to be muxed in? Those stupid extra frames 😉

There is a lossless 5.1 audio track included in the download separately to mux in yourself.

SomethinSomethinDarkSide said:

Wow, the TESB and RoTJ special editions look amazing.

I agree, the colour looks very nice on them and is much improved from the untouched SDTV broadcasts.

Infi said:

How is it going?

I wouldn’t expect a release in quite a while if I’m being honest, the donors to this project never received a full grindhouse and presumably are not being consulted in spite of the money that they gave to fund this project.

If you’re looking for a 35mm preservation of AOTC you can view, 4K02 just came out on the TSWT forums, and is no longer in its grindhouse state and has been cleaned up.

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com

13las said:

That’s awesome! I’ll have to check those things out. The audio changes (especially in Empire) are such a nightmare to keep track of. But those are a few that I’ve never even heard anyone else mention.

I think it would probably be a good idea to put together a streamlined version of my script (without all my dumb jokes), that could be fact-checked and cross-referenced before I get too deep into putting this thing together. I think I should have time to do that within the next couple of days.

4K02 has now released so that would be a great resource to include in your comparison videos. There is also a list of all the changes that have been identified going from 35mm to DVD.

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/diamant-attack-of-the-clones-2002-35mm-print-b-uhd-released.7882/page-4#post-114858

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/visual-comparison-of-theatrical-vs-home-media-releases-for-attack-of-the-clones.7070/

The ESB 70mm print that was scanned a while back can also be found here on the TSWT forums, along with a change list from 70mm to 35mm.

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/the-empire-strikes-back-1980-70mm-print-a-rare-original-cut.5104/

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/70mm-vs-35mm-the-empire-strikes-back.5157/

Just entered the ballot for 2 tickets today, so we’ll see what happens!

I’d be very interested in a project like this, the 4Ks look great quality wise but the teal tint is a bit off putting, and it would be nice to listen to the original sound mixes along with them.

I’d be very interested in a project like this, the 4Ks look great quality wise but the teal tint is a bit off putting, and it would be nice to listen to the original sound mixes along with them.

CatBus said:

hharlan23 said:

I was talking to Harmy, not you.

Enjoy your stay.

He’s posted on a few other threads with equally tone deaf posts

Over on the TSWT forums we now have 4K99 2.1, which has been cleaned up and now has the English crawl and alien subtitles.

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/diamant-phantom-menace-the-1999-czech-35mm-released.7076/

4K02 is also having cleanup done and is expected to release in the near future

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/diamant-attack-of-the-clones-2002-35mm-print-b-funded.7882/

There is a scan of 35mm print of ROTS but it has not been cleaned up yet and the crawl is in Spanish

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/tn1-revenge-of-the-sith-4k05.828/

If film scans aren’t your thing I’d recommend Schorman’s prequel theatrical reconstructions. They use the HDTV preservations as their main source and are very well put together, TPM and AOTC will be receiving updated versions soon which will use the cleaned up footage from 4K99 and 4K02 instead of the grindhouse footage used previously.

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/the-phantom-menace-schormans-theatrical-reconstruction-1080p-v1-1.976/

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/attack-of-the-clones-schormans-theatrical-reconstruction-with-cinema-dts-audio.988/

https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/threads/schormans-revenge-of-the-sith-theatrical-version.708/

Omni said:

Bizarrely, I saw some people on twitter upset that they’re “going against George’s vision” or whatever. People are so stupid, they don’t even realize they should also respect 1977 George Lucas’ vision.

I don’t have twitter but I’d love to see some of those posts hahaha

Although people make fun of maclunkey (rightly so) I think there’s a way it could have been done to make the alterations to the Greedo scene much better. Since George was so intent on making Han appear like ‘less of a killer’ in the 1997 SE this is my idea for how it should have been done.

The scene plays out the same as it does in the theatrical version up until the “I’ll bet you have” shot. Immediately after this shot is the maclunkey shot but with the translated dialogue in subtitles “This will be the end of you” with the gunshot and smoke in the same shot. We then cut back to the theatrical with Greedo slumping to the table.

This way we put more of an emphasis on Greedo about to kill Han and it also doesn’t interrupt the flow of the sequence. I personally think the sequence should have never been altered at all, but if we accept that it had to be changed I think would have been an improvement over the 1997 SE version of the shot which is by far the worse out of the 5 versions we’ve had.

walterlouis said:

SonnyGFunk said:

https://www.bfi.org.uk/news/bfi-film-film-festival-line-up-star-wars-twin-peaks#:~:text=We’re delighted to announce,in its original 1977 version

Exciting stuff!!!

Do we know if this BFI screening of the 1977 Star Wars will be the same version as the one on the ‘GOUT’ DVD, or are there any differences in the print they’re showing?

Well it’s a 1977 IB Tech Print, it has the original crawl and presumably the 1977 stereo mix instead of the 1993 stereo remix on the GOUT. It’s obviously going to be vastly superior to the GOUT in terms of picture quality since it’s a 35mm print only a few generations away from the negative with unfaded colour as opposed to the non anamorphic laserdisc transfer on the GOUT.

Croweyes1121 said:

SonnyGFunk said:

Croweyes1121 said:

Also wondering if any of the previous betas are any better than v1.0. I know there was a sharpening mistake that happened for v1.0, and I wonder if maybe Beta 5 didn’t have this issue and possibly looks better as a result.

That issue is in every beta, it happened during the initial cleanup stage of the print.

Man, that is such a shame. What’s worse is that you can literally see it happen. The first reel isn’t affected by it and looks far better than the rest of the film. I know v1.0 just came out, but toggling between this and 4K77/4K83, I just can’t help but feel like this could be so much improved. I hope they get a better source down the road and can do the original version of the film a bit more justice.

There are better sources available now and there will be a v2.0 at some point in the future, understandably however it won’t be done for a while since releasing v1.0 took a lot of effort and it’s likely Rob will want a rest before committing tons of time to cleaning ESB prints again.