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Looks fine on my phone. 😉 Damn, it really works and adds some much needed humor. I like your subtle edits like removing “we are encouraged to love” - insert creepy smile
How weird would it look if you could essentially roto and insert Anakin into the existing blu ray footage? Obviously you’d have to manipulate a lot of it and CC it. Would the footage of Anakin not stand out as much? I don’t know enough about this stuff.

Well I feel stupid. Interesting note: there is slight movement on the blu ray shots (like in the link above posted by timdiggerm) but it appears Adywan has stabilized those shots in Revisited.

@littlev87
I’m not sure of another way for the bugs to get into the apartment. But, my for my edit, the droid has to be at the window for a certain Jedi to grab hold of.

Alright, Mr. Ben Danger. Let’s get into this…

I love the out-of-the-box thinking!

I like this idea of Dooku and Obi earlier in the movie using TPM footage. I’m not sure this scene is doable-…actually: is there anyone here on the forums dipping their toes into deepfakes yet? Please tell me there is! We need you! It could really help in a few instances.

I‘ll tell you what I’m currently thinking: Anakin and Obi-Wan are friends. Not Teacher and Student. Obviously Ben is older and wiser so he does kind of coach Anakin, but he is not his Master. Dooku is a rogue Jedi. His saber will be blue or green, not red. No purple for Windu.

As for Yoda, as much as I like this idea of cutting him altogether, I think I’m gonna need him. But I agree the interrogation scene and saber duel are flat. Earlier this year I looked at adding some of that interrogation dialogue into duel. Unfortunately I can’t just throw those shots into the dual. The eye lines and camera angels won’t work together. And Obi-Wan has blue sh*t all over him. 😉 But some of the dialogue could possibly work…

I love the idea of walking TO transports and not away from them. This is exactly the way I’ve been trying to think about these scenes. I started thinking about the whole movie and what if all the scenes played backwards? What if the end of the movie was the beginning? The clone troopers leaving for battle. What if the clone wars have already begun? Now, of course, with that idea, the obvious question becomes: if the clone war has already begun, then what is happening in the Senate? Why is Padme going there? Is she not opposing the creation of the army now? Why would someone be trying to kill her? I feel like those things can’t be lost. BUT you get the idea.

The outtakes….yes…as a matter of fact, can they be used? I mean, isn’t the video quality not very good? I would love to use one in particular: the sipping soup shot “God! That’s hot!” I would absolutely use that in my edit if there isn’t a noticeable dip in video quality.

Here’s the out-of-the-box thinking I’ve been doing: what if we could insert Qui-Gon into this movie (and later in ROTS) as a somewhat random Jedi? I was thinking since this is kind of Episode One, we as the audience need to have a proper introduction to the Jedi and Sith. So what if Qui-Gon encounters a Sith? Maybe he’s on Coruscant and he sees a shadowy figure (it would have to be Palps). The figure turns to meet his eye and smiles evilly. Before Qui-Gon can respond, a speeder passes between them and the next second, the figure is gone. Qui-Gon goes to the Jedi: “My only conclusion can be that it was a Sith Lord.” That conversation happens and then Obi and Anakin are next in line. “Track down this bounty hunter you must…”. Qui-Gon can then show up at the Arena at the end. And then (if I ever get to it) in ROTS he’ll die with all the other Jedi. Maybe THEN I’ll feel sad when the Jedi are dying. 😉 I don’t know….would that be too many things going on in this movie?

I certainly understand why one would want a little camera shake, but, personally, I love it that it doesn’t. Very OT imho.

Love it!

I’ve seen the bugs replaced by the laser. It’s obviously well done. Personally I like the build up with the bugs. They’re creepy. I realize how it would’ve made more sense for the laser fire instead. And i might have considered it more but the thing that pulls me out of that change is the fact that Anakin is not looking toward the window when he deflects the bolts. Personally that just pulls me out of the moment.

@snooker
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Yep! More or less. To me, it looks like Sam Jackson gives off that vibe already in his facial expressions. And of course that becomes more clear in ROTS. But yes I like the idea of Windu just not liking Anakin. So maybe we as the audience won’t know exactly what to think of him as a Jedi. I plan on dubbing Windu for this very purpose. I think those two are the only ones I’m dubbing. However I am on the look out for additional dialogue from other films for people such as Padme and Obi. Garden State has some lines from Portman I think might work. Anyone know of some other films where Ewan’s doing an English accent?

This is exactly what I used to do. When I had an idea, I would just release a clip. I guess I’ve had enough of a few ideas to finally try a full blown edit.

Well, I’ll tell you now that I plan for there to be many many new effects shots in this. You up for some rotoscoping? 😉

@LordZerome1080
Got anything uploaded anywhere? Currently I’m planning on keeping Ian as Palps but there could possibly be a need for a line or two.

@snooker
Hmm…I hadn’t really thought of it like that. Thankfully, this is not a decision I have to make right now.

Have you done any voice work?

Also, I apologize for not knowing this: you DO have your own fan edits?

@stickydixon
Good idea. It never made sense (to me) to cast someone who didn’t at least sound similar to JEJ. At this point, I don’t know what I’ll do. I don’t know if I can pull that off or if I can find someone else to. Right now I’ll continue to try and come up with dialogue that will help with fixing plot and character issues and of course adhere to the OT.

The first TEASER is here!
https://youtu.be/h0Cu11y60-A

UPDATE:
I’m tentatively saying there’s a possibility of a 2024 release.
The edit is slow going because…

1. Full-time job
2. There’s lots I’m trying to do with it in terms of FX work. I feel I’ve bitten off more than I can chew…but at the same time, this is still fun for me.😁
3. I also have been enjoying showing clips and meme-type videos on YouTube. It allows me to get feedback on editing decisions and FX work tests.

Here is a playlist with various clips of the upcoming project:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqh-77Ip5cnpmkOS6xAy_nQ68UVowfC9

ORIGINAL POST:

Hello everyone! I’m in the very beginning stages of my first fan edit of Attack of the Clones! I haven’t decided on a name for it yet. However, the idea behind this edit is that it is on an alternate timeline separate from the original. Some of the events of TPM might be eluded to but for the purposes of this edit, it doesn’t exactly exist. It’s almost like Superman Returns…it’s not exactly a sequel, but I guess I’ll be cherry picking things from TPM for this edit.

The reason I’ve started this thread so early in the game is to hopefully brain storm a bit with you guys. I plan on showing some early very very rough ideas and hope I can get feedback. There are so many things I want to change that in the process of editing, other events might be inadvertently affected. So I definitely would love a fresh set of eyes to help notice anything odd or out of place.

I have some very specific ideas I want to try and implement, and then other things I just don’t know what to do with.

SO…

Some overall thoughts/ideas:

With a few exceptions, most edits seem to leave in all of Anakins “dark” moments. I want Anakin’s character to be more in line with Luke. We basically won’t see any dark side to Anakin…just like Luke. Not that Anakin won’t have flaws but there won’t be any overt foreshadowing…at the very least, minimal. The whole Star-Wars-prequels-equals-Titanic angle I want gone. I want him to be a likeable guy who then turns evil in ROTS. Can you imagine if Luke had turned evil at the end of ROTJ? Now that would be tragic. That’s what I’m shooting for.

I will indeed be cutting scenes or shots that don’t seem to make sense from a narrative or character stand point, but want I REALLY want to achieve is to repurpose shots and scenes for different parts of the film to extend and/or possibly create new scenes. I want to create new moments or extend a moment that might already be there. This of course will be very difficult, so we’ll see how it goes.

My main goal is to make the internalization of the characters work. I want there to be more emotion and motivation from our heroes. Specifically Anakin. Therefore, Anakin is going to be dubbed. Because I’m replacing his dialogue, I’m finding ways to better set up Anakins relationships (Jedi, Obi, Padme, Palps, etc.). The challenge is to find the right balance. Some of my early attempts to change these things were a little too on-the-nose.

Changes to the plot is really secondary for me. Generally, the way I view all movies is that if I’m invested in the characters, I’ll give any plot conveniences and/or holes a pass. I certainly WANT to bring more simplicity/coherence to the plot, but I realize my limitations. I’m open to suggestions.

The fact is, I’m not sure what I want to do about the Trade Federation, the clones, the “mystery” plot and all the political stuff which has several issues (just watch Confused Matthew or Plinkitt). I’ve yet to see a version that I would want to implement.

I also want to bring things up a notch when it comes to the actual changes. I know with several fan edits, changes to the plot are put in the opening crawl. I certainly plan on changing the crawl but I’d rather show-and-tell than ask the viewer to read-and-remember the changes, all-the-while, scenes play out the same with the exception of a few omissions of dialogue.

Also, I don’t want to rely on flashbacks. I’m not particularly a big fan of edits that do this even when it’s done very well. Hell, I don’t really like it being used in TLJ that much. It just hasn’t been a part of (until TLJ) a Star Wars way of exposition.

There’s more I can get into later. What I’d like to do is go ahead and show you all a very rough clip. It doesn’t make sense for me to finesse it any further until I get feedback. I might be blind to some very obvious flaws. I thought about setting up the clip and what I’m trying to achieve but I’d rather you just watch and respond. I feel like I’ll get a better understanding of what I’ve done if you guys don’t know ahead of time.

P.S. I’m currently using DVD footage on a laptop. I’m hopefully going to be putting together a PC that will allow for bluray quality footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpveHJhutFE

Thanks Ben! Glad to see you still around. 😀

@snooker
Hmm…not sure how many versions there are of his theme. The only one I can think of IS a soft flute version (I have no idea if it’s actually a flute or not).

Ha ha yes YOU brought me back! Actually, I’ve been lurking again for quite some time. And, in fact, I’ve been planning on finally doing my own edit soon.

Something else I noticed in your edit: the way you have it now, Anakin’s first lines of dialogue are not in English. The first time viewer might be wondering if he knows English (until he finally speaks it). But that might be intentional on your part. I could see it working either way.

I agree. The music works quite well. AND I like how the scene starts with the chanting of Palps name.

Snooker
I haven’t logged in to post anything in years but I wanted to say you’ve got some great ideas! These TPM clips you’ve posted are excellent. I love this idea of two pod races and having Anakin lose the first time. And your new intro for Anakin in the shop is great. I was trying to think of what Watto could say. If he wasn’t betting on Sebulba and instead was betting on Anakin he could tell him to get going to the race. You might want to consider adding Anakins theme to that scene as well. Just some thoughts. Well done!

Bingowings said:

I can understand you wanting to take a break from doing them but did you have to wipe them out...all of them?

 Well, I can understand maybe wanting to reference some of my videos for other ideas and whatnot... but again, for some personal reasons, I felt I needed to take them down. But I know there is plenty of creativity here to go around!  :D  I plan to still be around giving ideas and feedback...but it'll probably be even less than before.

brash_stryker said:

Also, SSWR's Youtube channel has vanished. What's going on?

 Here's what I posted on my profile:

Well, people, it's the end for now. I hope no one is too upset by me taking down my own edits. Lucasfilm didn't contact me or anything like that...I simply felt that they needed to come down for some personal reasons. I'll be around...just not as much. Thanks to everyone who supported my little edits! I've really appreciated all of the feedback and kind words.

vaderios said:

Good to see you back SSWR :D These pics were tests that i wanted to gather a few before posting :P

Since you are here a question from editing pov.

ANH is an example of retro editing.showing things happening. Example is when the company goes to rescue leia and they shoot the cameras. Editing wise they put very quick frames of destruction to create a mess. and sometimes they can create a mess. Do you think that can be fixed and be more like nowadays?

 

-Angel

 Thanks, Angel. Although, I can't hang out here as much as I might want. :)

I'm not sure I'm fully grasping what you're asking here. But yes there is some quick editing in that scene. Showing closeups of cameras exploding. I think you might be able to cut a few of those close ups out...not sure how many cameras they show exploding...not sure how I feel about that.

But I think I see where you're getting at. For a while now I've thought that a few shots of the Jawas hiding from R2 in the canyon should be trimmed. They linger a bit too long and you can clearly see what these guys look like. Maybe those shots just need some darkening.  ;)

Angel you are a sly one! How long have you been working on these? These are amazing! I agree with Bingo...I want to see these in motion!  :D

Could it be established that Anakin and Padme have actually kept in touch over the ten years and once they meet up again in AOTC they realize that they are meant for each other?

If something to this effect could be pulled off convincingly, then you *could* have them get married on Naboo after a few of the love scenes. Anakin could then have the dream about his mother and the movie could go foward from there. So Anakin and Padme would be a married couple through the rest of the movie. You could then show Anakin leaving with all of the other troops and whatnot at the end.

I don't know if I like the idea...or if it could be accomplished...just a thought

ben_danger said:

i'd like an ending silmilar to the original clone wars series opener, with anakin leaving in his jedi starfighter, and the sky being filled with triangular star destroyers. padme stands sadly at the window watching him depart.

it could give a greater contrast of the departure at the end of SOTDS to the return at the beginning of ROTS. of course they would be meeting up shortly before to get all impregnated and such.

 Exactly as I've been thinking. Plus, this way the movie could end in space...kind of like ESB...hmm...

Oh this just might work!  :D

MTHaslett said:

Dukoo: "My old apprentice's last gift has paid off. The clones I ordered in his name are now operational, Master Sidious." 

 This could work...although, this particular line is too wordy. I think making it more simple...

Dooku: The clones I ordered in Qui-Gon's name are now operational, Master Sidious.

Something like that...?

I wish ROTJ would go down more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW7XOvWm8VY