SnooPac

I’d also like to volunteer to continue lurking.

bryanltj said:

Oh my gosh I can’t believe I’m four years late on this. How can I get this? Can I still get this?

Check your PM.

Try again on spleen. Should be complete and going fast in some hours.

Owen37 said:
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Do you have link to the set you’re talking about ?

darthrush said:

It’s on the spleen as far as I know.

As darthrush said, they can be downloaded from spleen.
But if you want a link regarding the discussion of that release, and what is included, etc, it can be found on this forum here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Despecialized-Editions-Custom-Bluray-Set/id/49995

Check this thread for Blu-ray versions of despecialized.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Despecialized-Editions-Custom-Bluray-Set/id/49995

Thanks mr Smithers. Looks like you and darthrush agree on ep2 and 3 (hal & l8wrtr). So I’ll likely try to grab those (eventually).
Will have to decide on ep1 though. Again, not something I’ll need to look into until after the originals.

OK thanks darthrush. I’ll maybe look into those after the originals. If he doesn’t want to watch the altered versions, maybe I’ll check them out for myself!

OK all, thanks a lot.
Now I know not to be searching for different bluray versions or anything. And I’ll hold off any fan edits 😃.

About clones wars, I’ve seen all those (many years ago now). I liked them in general (though I personally get annoyed with the overdose of ‘rah rah’ military stuff). But it’s what, 6-7 seasons I think. Might be better that I don’t introduce it to him, he’s hard to pull away from this stuff and it will occupy his whole summer probably with watching this all day 😃.
He has watched all of Rebels with me so far (season 1 binge, but season 2 as each episode came out weekly, which is better for him, I think).
So I’ll think about the clone wars stuff, but maybe not till later.

Thanks again everyone.

Let me start by saying this is for my kid, I swear 😃.

He’s seen the 3 OT films (despecialized versions only), as well as The Force Awakens. I tried to leave it at that.
But recently, he’s been playing some old games (specifically Lego Star Wars the Complete Saga). And he’s seen a lot of Lego Star Wars cartoons. Both of those have a significant amount of prequel stories in them.

So of course, the question came, “can I watch all the star wars movies”…
😦
So I’ve never really focused on prequels. Only seen them in theaters when they were released, and probably bits on TV whenever they happened to be broadcast while I was channel surfing?
Are there different bluray releases? Do you recommend he watches an official bluray release, or any of the fan edits? Keep in mind, he’s never seen the prequels, so I’m thinking an official release (first, at least). He’s 7 years old, if that matters.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Thanks.

I won’t have it downloaded here to check until a few hours. And I’ll be sleeping then, so I wouldnt be able to check until tomorrow at the earliest.
But in the meantime, I did a sha256 check:

$ sha256sum “ROTJ Documentaries BD25.iso”
12feaa8b386c18bdcdd5922f42a7c71ecba5484167aea100986bfaf9aa98cb58 ROTJ Documentaries BD25.iso

Just unpacking (which is all I’ve done so far) worked for me. Unrar program should tell them which rar file is broken, if it failed during unrar.
I didn’t check the ISO after extracting though.

MrPib said:

Can anyone tell me exactly how to play the ISOs with VLC and see the menus…

SnooPac said:

<paraphrase>works for me</paraphrase>

OK, I actually downloaded it and tried it. I couldn’t open the ISO file itself with VLC. So I mounted the ISO with Daemon Tools, then I opened VLC and did a Media->Open Disc. Then I picked the ‘drive’ (“E:\ - Return of the Jedi Despecialized” in my case), clicked “Blu-ray” option, and deselected the “No disc menus” option, then hit play, and it worked fine with the menus and everything.

Great job njvc.

Alternatively, if you don’t want to install Daemon Tools (or any alternative image mounting software), I think you can extract the ISO using winrar (or probably many other softwares), then just use that folder that is extracted when you “Open Disc” in VLC – everything else (deselecting “No disc menus” and selecting “Blu-ray”) would be the same.

Not sure the problem, but just in case, the check box is “no disc menus” so make sure you uncheck that box.
Note also, I’ve got it working with the team Blu tfa bonus disc. I have not tried it with this one yet. So it’s possible the format is different and causing vlc to have difficulties??

Edit: also note, I’m using VLC 2.2.4. Pretty sure it’s 64bit version – it doesn’t say, but I think i remember installing that version. And it’s installed in c:\program files\ rather than c:\program files (x86).

Ok. I think I misunderstood, I thought when you were asking for the SNL thing it was to include it. No matter, it’s still fine without it.
And even without testing the software player, it still plays pretty great, so all good there too.

So I got it and tried it. Only in VLC. The menus actually worked pretty well.
I was gonna complain that once you went into a ‘submenu’ (for lack of a better term), I could not get back out to the main menu, but that was just with using the mouse. It worked when I started using the keyboard, so I assume anyone who burns this to disc will navigate just fine.

I haven’t gone through all (or even much) of the content yet. But the stuff I did see was cool, and I hadn’t watched most of it before.

Also the video playing in the title screen is cool, highlights of the main movie, so I sat there watching the menu for a few minutes before getting to any of the features 😃.

Thanks for making this.

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1 thing. From the discussion, I thought the SNL thing would be included…but I couldn’t find it.

BMadden, check your pm for an alternate link.

RU.08 said:

SnooPac said:

Well, apparently the stupid mount edits the ISO file for some reason:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/149459/mount-o-loop-changes-mounted-iso-image-file
If I had just run the command with a “ro,” in there before the “loop”, all would have been fine.

If that’s the case then the ISO definitely wasn’t corrupted - it’s just a slight different .iso file with all the same contents. So it did not cause the glitches Blackout had.

Ya I doubt very much that it would have caused any difference, but who knows. And in any case, its best that it was fixed and that there’s a consistent version out there.

clutchins said:

Welp, it’s down.

What is?
edit: if you are talking about the original torrent, yes it was taken down and there’s a new one instead that has the fully correct file (you don’t need to redownload the whole thing, just like <1%).

FYI, it looks like we found out what caused those corrupt bytes (thanks again dahmage who actually seemed to find out what happened).
I haven’t tried to reproduce (I will soon), but pretty sure this is it.

I figured, after I got the RARs and extracted the ISO from them, the best way I could check the ISO was good was to mount it and browse the folders, check for BVMD and STREAM and all the m2ts files etc…
So I did a quick google search on how to mount ISO’s on Linux, and eventually I do the command:
mount -o loop Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso …/tmp/iso
I go over to …/tmp/iso/, look around, all looks good, so I unmount and continue on.

Well, apparently the stupid mount edits the ISO file for some reason:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/149459/mount-o-loop-changes-mounted-iso-image-file
If I had just run the command with a “ro,” in there before the “loop”, all would have been fine.

So if I didn’t try to verify that all was good, then all would have been good 😃.
Oh well. You live and learn I guess.

Haha nice observation Faithwyn.

NP. dahmage did the work to fix. I just put it up there…

towne32 said:

… Maybe people who have each version should compare checksums of the rars themselves.

The rar’s were fine I think. Pretty sure it came with an .sfv file and I checked it with that. So whatever the problem was must have come during (or after) extracting the iso from the rars.

pittrek said:

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Jedit : Wait a moment, I have now realized I am helping seeding the myspleen torrent. I have a bad feeling that uTorrent has rewritten some of the bytes of the ISO to “comply” with the ISO shared on myspleen 😦

Sorry 😦

dahmage said:

Yep, the myspeen torrent probably modified your file.

Here is difference i have found so far:

a.b.starwars blocks 20004-20078:
CA 00 01 00 D2 2D 7E 00 40 00 00 00 10 1F E0 07 06 0C 0E 29 29 3C 50 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 51 2C 01 A0 00 00 00 00 2A 49 6D 67 42 75 72 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Ê…Ò-~.@…à…))<P…~…ÀQ,. …*ImgBurn…

myspleen blocks 20004-20078:
53 00 01 00 D0 B8 7E 00 40 00 00 00 10 1F E0 07 06 0D 09 32 06 07 4B 21 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 51 2C 01 A0 00 00 00 00 2A 49 6D 67 42 75 72 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04

S…и~.@…à…2…K!..~…ÀQ,. …*ImgBurn…

Man that’s annoying. Looks like by my quick count (I bolded diffs), there are just 11 bytes different. 11 bytes! That’s 2.7289303176173536412470897337513 x 10^-8% of the file corrupt. 0.0000000272893%! 😦

Chewtobacca said:

SnooPac said:
By “extracted”, its meant extracted from rar to iso. Iso not modified (intentionally).

Got it!

And this is a rule on myspleen that the rars need to be extracted.

Of course! That was never the issue.

Ok, glad we cleared that much up at least 😃.

dahmage said:

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After looking at the binary diff, all the changes seem to be in the file header, it looks like the author or maybe an authoring date got changed? but How?

That’s the million dollar question. I’m guessing its something in my setup. Bad corrupt disk on my server? Buggy version of unrar? I can’t really explain it yet, but that sucks.

dahmage said:

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Actually, why don’t you just edit your local file using a hex editor. See my previous post for the bytes to change. It is really very minor. Save it and run some checksums, it should match what Williarob posted at that point. THen you can re-upload the torrent. I think it will just be too confusing if i upload a new one, might be less so if you do?

Oh man. OK I can try. But I don’t know if I’ll be able to do it right. Can you please make your .torrent ready just in case I can’t get it right?
Alternatively you could…wait, I’ll take this to PM.

Sorry don’t have time to read all these messages (will eventually) but I’ll try to quickly answer a few.

Chewtobacca said:

This happens every time someone extracts the ISO. Why extract it? Why do anything to it?

By “extracted”, its meant extracted from rar to iso. Iso not modified (intentionally).
And this is a rule on myspleen that the rars need to be extracted.

dahmage said:

Well, SnooPac do you mind if i replace your upload with the fixed file or do you want to fix it? good news is it should only require minor download to sync the changes.

Go ahead. I think it will just be 1 or 2 torrent segments that are bad. Would be nice if you have the ability to diff. I’m curious if its just a few bytes that are bad or something more significant. Even if its just 1%, 1% of that many GB could still be a lot. Probably best to keep file name the same so torrent clients just auto “overwrite” my file and complete the few missing bad bytes? Can also delete the first torrent.

Also I would have tried to confirm the hash after extracting, but I couldn’t find it. Sorry all, my bad.

Very strange dahmage.
The version that ended up on spleen was just the exact extracted ISO from Usenet. No changes were made. Not intentionally, anyway.
Maybe Williarob can confirm which hash is correct based on the original file?

(I also get 183e36fe4591e7f947b9d63d07f1bb920f1039a35e9853355d835e3a33df132f)

I’m also thinking it was the uploader who took it down. Only because it was stuck at 99%!
I’d figure if the uploader wanted it distributed, he would have continued to seed to those leechers still on the torrent?

It’s on MySpleen now 😃.

Thanks for the info/link Density. The only free server I could find would only work at ~120k/s.

For those who still don’t want to or can’t try Usenet, take a look at spleen while its hot!
Also, it will be available on mega at some point in the near future, with links available via PM if you are interested.

Thanks again Rob. Hopefully you don’t have a problem with any of this.