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#1258465
Topic
The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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RogueLeader said:

If I may make a suggestion for the framing of the first shot.

One of the cool things about the opening shot of A New Hope, that none of the other films have besides ROTS arguably, is the visual symbolism used to tell us everything we need to know about the two sides in a single shot. The Rebels are small, like the blockade runner, desperately trying to escape from the massive Empire, represented by the hulking Star Destroyer that passes overhead and made audiences’ jaws drop back in 77.

Could it be possible to create a shot in the vein of this opening with The Phantom Menace? What if when we pan down to Naboo, we can see the entire planet in the shot? Maybe the camera cold be even farther away, and Naboo could be relatively small, even smaller than the planet we pan down to at the beginning of TFA.

This could help show Naboo as beautiful, but isolated and vulnerable.

And for an entrance in the vein of the Empire’s great debut in ANH, numerous Trade Federation ships could enter the frame from every angle, from the top, the bottom, the sides, swarming the planet and slowly “blocking” our view of the planet. Controls ships, transports, even starfighters.

We could have a beat of silence similar to what you have in your mock-up, maybe a bit longer to help build audience anticipation, waiting for something to happen, then suddenly we hear the rumble and screams of starships as they pass the camera by. It might initially be strange for the Federation to approach from a farther distance, but the Empire Strikes Back actually set up the idea that ships can sneak up on a planet’s defenses if they jump out of hyperspace far enough away from the planet. Coming out of lightspeed too close to Hoth is what allowed the Rebels to know the Empire was coming, and led to Ozzel being “punished” by Vader. And since it seems like the Naboo government doesn’t know what is going on at first, this would line up pretty well with that idea.

It is possible rendering dozens of ships might be out of your range with your available equipment, though, so I understand if you couldn’t even be capable of doing this.

As far as the visuals go, I wonder if you desaturated the initial shot if it would help blend in with the rest of the scene, since the colors of the film seem a little muted and “filmic” rather than really popping out. Also, I felt that the engine glow was a little too intense for the control ships. If you also went with the idea I mentioned, I would suggest reinserting the shot of the transports entering the atmosphere, since an extra shot might be needed since the fleet starts farther away from the planet.

Also, not as relevant, but have you considered pitching Amidala’s voice up to not make it as deep throughout the film?
While I personally don’t like the use of TFA music, I understand why you wanted to add a little something extra to the music, although it would be nice if you could find alternate music from the TPM soundtrack or another previous one. Just my two cents on that though!
This is a pretty cool opening. The best version of this idea I’ve seen. Also really dig the voices for the Nemoidians! Good job so far.

EDIT: I would say TFA also has a metaphorical opening shot, with the shadow of the First Order blotting out the “light”.

This would be so dope, maybe a cold opening that starts with the villains could be done too

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#1257105
Topic
The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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snooker said:

thebluefrog said:

Or if that’s too complex, then just reorder the Jedi purge to be happening DURING the Obi-Wan/Anakin battle to make it extra tragic that it all collapses at once.

That’s a pretty good idea!

Yes or have palpatine giving his final speech to the senate, the grandiose music fits well, you just have to edit padmé out of the scene but that wouldn’t be too hard. Although continuity could be solved with some of the longer shots having custom mattes and you can still have the close ups and quick cuts be the same because the background isn’t noticeably different.

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#1256621
Topic
The Last Jedi- Full Movie Re-Edit
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Valheru_84 said:

Smithers said:

It is possible that good hobby work done here could land skilled members new jobs in the industry…

Harmy is a perfect example of this 😄

Exactlyyyy

Smithers said:

The ONLY time money should be involved in fan projects is when they invest their OWN hard earnings into their OWN resources to complete the tasks at hand, that’s an unfortunate reality that must be grasped by everyone who invests their time into shit like this.

I agree with the additional exception of Adywan’s case where a collective donation effort is solely for helping fund the edit process itself but no personal profit is ever taken from the donations.

Yes, Adywan accepts donations, but these don’t make nearly enough to cover the costs of his project, and paypal donations are more of a personal offering than a patreon subscription or buying lame t-shirts. Same goes for film restoration projects where multiple members pitch money to order the reels and such, this is not unethical. You won’t find Adywan on youtube begging for monthly payments so he can sit in front of a computer and change musical queues until he’s blue in the face, Adywan actually uses great amounts of resources, time, and effort, yet I’m sure he doesn’t come close to breaking even.

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#1256560
Topic
The Last Jedi- Full Movie Re-Edit
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adywan said:

arosa1091 said:

Don’t get all the hate for Ivan. All Youtubers use Patreon. I understand why some might consider it an ethical issue,but its out of our control. Drop it and get over it. He’s gonna be remembered as one of the greatest fan editors because of what he’s doing to TLJ.

Why the f**k should we “drop it and get over it”? His actions could have serious repercussions for every Star Wars fan edits & fan editors. We have seen what happened when Axanar decided to personally profit from a brand they had no rights to. Disney could see what he is doing and decide to clamp down on fan edits. This could put an end to a whole section of the fan editing community through the actions of one person. Years worth of work, down the drain. And, no, not all youtubers use Patreon. NO fan genuine fan editors monetise their videos on youtube, for one, and certainly not set up a Patreon to pay themselves a wage.

Man really said it the way it is, fan films and fanedits should be inspired by the merritt of creativity and should be made without any question of legality, the rules set up by this community have been put in place for ethical and legal reasons, we should NOT be paying people to fuck with disney and further fuck with the fanedit community by risking everything we have built on this page for over a decade. Projects such as these are hobbyist projects, not jobs. It is possible that good hobby work done here could land skilled members new jobs in the industry, but there is nothing correct about breaking the core rules and forcing yourself into a career based on dishonesty and ignorance of the law and history of projects such as these, I’m so done with seeing this shit man. Ivan had some pretty cool creative ideas, and that’s it, at the first sign of criticism he turned to his small gang of worshippers that he calls “fans” and shit talked the entire website like a middle-school girl, pathetic. The ONLY time money should be involved in fan projects is when they invest their OWN hard earnings into their OWN resources to complete the tasks at hand, that’s an unfortunate reality that must be grasped by everyone who invests their time into shit like this. I’m quite pissed that I was one of the first viewers of Ivan’s channel and that I linked him to this site pretty early on as an opportunity to better his own project and to welcome a useful new creative and productive member to the forum to have this ignorant drama arise based on pure greed. Don’t watch Ivan’s edit, don’t leave a good review, or a bad review in the comments, don’t buy his merch, don’t pay him, this guy is bad news.

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#1224345
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (SPOILERS)
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DZ-330 said:

Smithers said:

Watched it recently, it’s much better but on a personal subjective level, it doesn’t quite cut out enough for me. Biggest problem is that you left in the kids at the end which now make zero sense in the context of the film. On a technical level it was masterful as always though.

I used to agree with you, but just assume a passage of time. The kids don’t have to be from Canto Bight, they can just be kids anywhere inspired by Luke.

I just prefer the original formula of all the other films where we end each episode with our protagonists together gazing at something, rather than setting up future films in the middle of a trilogy.

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#1223621
Topic
The Last Jedi- Full Movie Re-Edit
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SYNCHRONIC said:

No offense guys, but you were the ones who were insulting him and berating him behind his back, I’ve just gone through this thread after the link was posted on a Star Wars Reddit (SaltierthanCrait) thread, he isn’t forcing anyone to give him money, or pay for the edit, if people want to give him money in appreciation for the work then that is their prerogative.

Apparently pointing out technical issues and raising legal concerns is “insulting and berating” ya ok