Sluggo

Ric Olie said:

Scruffy said:

It is true that the ugly, no-name, never-seen-again pilot was talking to a child, but it wasn't natural.

Oh yeah?  How many Handsome Internet Polls have you won?

Ric?!  It looks like you are back!

Yeah, some of the prequel dialogue is pretty funky, but is is better than having a title card or a subtitle tell you anytime the scenery changes.  I've always been bugged then that happens in movies.

It seems like the line is awfully fine between mere effects clean-up (matte lines, erasing a reflection of an actor on some glass, etc), and improving the look of a shot by something as replacing something simple as a few clouds or altering a sunset.

Let me throw out a question here.  What do we mean by Tampered with?  Does this go beyond not merely releasing the Theatrical release of a movie?  Would you consider releasing a movie with a new audio mix remastered for home theaters as having been tampered?

TV's Frink said:

I see what you did here.  But there is a rule against that too, so PROBATION stands.

 

Oh, I wasn't trying to get loose from the probation, I was just bugged that my image disappeared on my computer.  It gets lifted when it gets lifted.

Apple pie with cheese is delicious.

xhonzi said:

I always assumed that Luke's parents were married, giving him a nice Christian/non-bastard birth just like me.

If, instead, Anakin is on some backwater planet in the middle of the Clone Wars and he impregnates some local girl... he wouldn't necessarily know that he had a kid.

And, by that token, does Leia have to be his twin?  Could she be the daughter of another woman?

How would you react to this if it was in the prequels?  Does it change Luke's character much?

Nothing like digging up a new thread.  

I don't know if it changes Luke's character.  It certainly wouldn't be a big change from the farm boy who lived with his aunt and uncle on some backwater planet.  

What if Beru was that "local girl"?

I'm loving the teamwork going on here!

adywan said:

Monroville said:

If there are more AT-ATs than just the single one in that last shot, it would be very impressive actually if either the front 3 were still standing (with Luke taking out one of the rear ones) or at least 2 (if Luke takes out one of the front row AT-ATs) and show them combine their firepower to collectively take out the shield generator.

Have you been accessing my computer? ;)

Like a big Care Bear stare?

I think his use of the winky means he is kidding.

ChainsawAsh said:

Sluggo - you're thinking of Episode III, not the Clone Wars theatrical film.

And if I'm not mistaken, the Episode II DVD is the DLP theatrical release with the Anakin/Padme scene in the Lars garage extended even beyond that.  Is this correct?

No, I was right.  I just quoted the wrong sentence.

So what I said was correct.  From a certain point of view.

*sigh*

I think I'd only go as far as to say that there are more adventures, but, to me at least, it didn't imply the production of new movies.

Erikstormtrooper said:

What about the Clone Wars theatrical release? Was that altered for DVD/Blu?

There was one optical wipe that was different, but I'm not gonna make the mistake of posting a pic as dvdactive doesn't allow hotlinking.  So there.

But you can read about it here.

You mentioned Normon Osborn... nvm.

You are generally an absolutist?  :p

xhonzi said:

But then again, I do believe that most people who commit evil don't see it that way.  Not that it makes it right, or neutral, but that they have rationalized away the reality that what they're doing is wrong so they can go ahead and do it anyways.

 

I agree with this.  I guess I envision the Veers story as some type of pro-Empire propaganda film.  Heck, it could make for an interesting fan film.

I don't know if I'd agree that BttF set up it's own sequels.  It really was just having the movie end on an exciting high point of the heroes blasting off screen for another adventure. Something for the audience to be 'wowed' about.

And the new problem that was created to link the new movie and the old movie together (Marty and Jennifer's kids grow up to be "a*******") isn't addressed in the sequels.  We see the kids, but it certainly isn't the plot.  I don't think this was even intended to be the plot, but just a throwaway joke to give the heroes the flimsiest of excuses to jump into more mayhem.

Ah, yes.  Crystal Skull.  Proof LFL can get something right!

xhonzi said:

If the Dark Jedi/Sith are the bad guys of the Clone Wars/PT, then why does no one apparently care that Vader and Palpatine are two extremely prominent/well known leaders/executors of the Gov't.

You might make a case that very few people in the OT know that Emperor Palpatine is a (Dark) force user, but Vader?

Does anyone else here read Marvel Comics?  Mild Spoilers for anyone who does not:

The Skrull Secret Invasion ends when "apparently on the mend, but still a rather bad guy" Normon Osborn gets a kill-shot on the right Skrull and sends them packing.  He's lauded as the hero that did what all of the Marvel superheroes (Ironman, S.H.I.E.L.D., the X-Men, etc.) couldn't, and he's given the keys to the kingdom for a while.  He abuses them from day one, and controls his PR very well... but eventually it all catches up with him.

Back to the PT.  What if the Dark Jedi/Sith are the conquerors of the Clone Wars?  What if they drive out the enemy horde, and then the Republic is willing to try things their way for a span?

I think you have Mr. Osborn mixed up with some obscure Christian sect.

Interesting idea on perspective of the movies characters.  I was just reading in Ady's ESB thread and it got me thinking.  What if the Hoth invasion was told from General Veers perspective?  If that was a self-contained story, could it have the same feel as Luke's descruction of the Death Star did?  Imperial Walkers are falling left and right and Veers breaks through at the last second, shooting down an attacking speeder and manages to seize victory by destroying the shield generator of those terrorist rebels?

xhonzi said:

Agreed on the 'franchise' bit.  But I believe that's covered by the sequel clause as well.  Stories that happen later are not usually considered sequels unless they are in the same franchise.  And not even then.

But what, books and comics, videogames, radioshows, and ballads can't have prequels now?  Just movies?

I said movies because we are talking about movies.  Just because I didn't mention ballads and the like doesn't mean I was deliberately excluding them.  Don't be puttin' words in my mouth.

-Slugoo

xhonzi said:

Back to the Future
in 3 Acts

...

Am I wrong?

I think you nailed it. 

Question:  Do you think movie trilogies (like BttF) follow the same 3 act pattern?  I know the classic SW movies do.  And if movies do or don't, do they influence how we define sequels?

A prequel ought to set up a story of an already existing movie with in the same 'franchise'.

I'm rejecting the standard definition as it doesn't work unless it is narrowed.

Lazy Sluggo, was Lazy.

Norwegian Wood by the Alan Copeland Conspiracy

Whole Day Off by Boingo

How nice of you to stay on topic in Off Topic.

Nah, we just should all have a flashback avatar day.

And Moth3r brought the bulldog avatar back.  Nice.  Maybe I should go back to the policeman...

Great article. 

And I liked their take on Temple of Doom.  I've never understood why people consider it a prequel.  A prequel ought to set up a story.  Merely having a movie take place before another movie isn't enough to make it a prequel.  By that logic, Casablanca was a prequel to Close Encounters.