Slavicuss

Wazzles said:

Does he actually know about the small alterations in Raiders and Jaws? Or was that kind of done without his knowledge?

I think he does know. He’s certainly powerful enough in the industry and probably keeps a close eye on his films and their releases.

Either it was his idea (little changes) or somebody talked him into it? Whomever it was, thought they could sneak it in without notice.

Something very similar to the classic TIE-fighter sound effect can be heard in the title sequence for “THE TOXIC AVENGER” (1984).

There’s this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6J5EqFXErE

Ronster said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

moviefreakedmind said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

That said, a recompositing of the original film elements for an OUT wouldn’t offend me, but I also don’t tend to think it is necessary.

People on this site are the only ones I’ve ever seen that claim to be offended by recompositing the original effects. I don’t think they’re bothered by the TNG blurays though.

The question is, if all the SEs had done was recomp the effects, and had this become the only available version of the films, would this website exist? I bet not. I think the nature of the situation and the fact that we’ve been forced to create these projects has created radicals.

Yeah that would have been good enough as a Special edition. But you know say that clip they showed where there was extra dialogue in the conference room on the Death Star before Tarkin and Vader walk in.

Things like that would have been nice additions that would actually have really added something subtle and interesting without screwing anything up…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Erf6s_wYJk

^ This would have been normal sort of special edition Fayre…

Instead we are left with Plastic crap looking stuff intermingled with a classic film from 1977.

Why add the Jabba scene when everything has already been covered in the Greedo scene? when you could have just extended the conference scene actually adding something of worth…

I think the Space scenes they get away with the CGI there Sandcrawler Model and the new mattes (on some occasions) but that is really about it.

I don’t mind something being updated. But the whole tone of many of the changes is chalk and cheese, that is a lot of them do not work well Mos Eisley in particular is totally ruined, I Like the Falcon Take off though I think that one is fairly agreeable there is little hurt to be felt and makes it a bit more exhillarating.
The explosions of Alderaan and The Death Star are not that good either.

I could stomach only having a Special edition available as long as it did not screw the film up to the point where something you really loved you look at and hate in parts of it now…

When I first heard about the OT SE’s I was hoping for a straight forward expansion of the films. Using original deleted materials only - no intrusive CGI to taint the films vintage. I would have preferred seeing more deleted character moments, rather than ‘improvements’ to SFX and sets (Mos Eisley, Ben’s hovel & Cloud City).

I’m done with the SE’s - shameful travesties. Theatrical cut of the original trilogy (1977-83) or no sale!

I doubt the “LOST CUT” will ever get an official release. A version produced by STAR WARS fans would be great.

It’ll never be 100% accurate but there is enough deleted/alternate material out there to construct a rough approximation.

Hardcore Legend said:

Jay said:

canofhumdingers said:

I enjoyed Tarkin in Rogue 1, but then I’m one of those crazies who really loves R1. It’s my third favorite Star Wars movie behind Star Wars and ESB.

I don’t think you’re crazy. I’d probably put ROTJ above R1 myself, but I’d still take R1 over anything else we’ve gotten in the last 20 years.

I really like Rogue One and would probably love it if they had just structured it like a traditional saga film. The time jumps, planet hopping and lack of crawl take me out of the film early on every time. I will usually just skip ahead when I rewatch it.

It’s a very good Star Wars film that could be Top 3 with better editing.

ROGUE ONE needed a traditional STAR WARS title crawl (without being numbered). I prefer this film to either episodes VII or VIII.

This is easily (IMO) the best STAR WARS film since 1983.

STAR WARS (1977).

That’s how I would label a disc.

TV’s Frink said:

Slavicuss said:

The heroes never did anything for me, but if I had to choose one, I’d go for the princess. Back in the day, Carrie Fisher was really something special to look at.

That’s not what the question is. Unless you just like looking at yourself in the mirror or something.

I’d rather look at the (1980/3) princess.

The heroes never did anything for me, but if I had to choose one, I’d go for the princess. Back in the day, Carrie Fisher was really something special to look at.

If I can put up with sh*t like the PT, than I can brave any STAR WARS movie DISNEY throws at me - except Solo. I’ll give that a pass for sure, but I’ll probably watch it on television in a few years time, no doubt.

He looked okay for the most part but had too many scenes.

The voice work for the character was inconsistent and CGI Tarkin was too tall.

The film would have worked better with more Vader and less Tarkin, imo.

liamnotneeson said:

Slavicuss said:

I’d get rid of any cutesy/comedy moments involving the Ewoks.

The problem with, that, though, is that you’re attempting to portray the Ewoks as an actual threat if you take out anything that makes them seem otherwise, but they at their core are meant to be cute

They can still be cute but removing some of the more silly moments won’t hurt them or the film.

Edit out the shot of Wicket knocking himself out with the bolas and shorten the moment an Ewok steals a speeder bike. I’d end the scene just as the biker scouts begin their pursuit. Dump the footage of the Ewok trying to control the bike.

I’d get rid of any cutesy/comedy moments involving the Ewoks.

Remove any burp jokes in the film.

Do something about the droid torture scene - make it more serious.

Prune back any cut-away shots to Salacious Crumb laughing.

AveKender said:

TESB taking place over months makes some sense if you assume the Falcon has reserve foodstuffs to sustain the crew for long journeys. That way Luke has ample time to do his elementary Jedi Knight training with Yoda on Dagobah.

That would mean the captain and princess have been wearing the same clothes for months. Even if the clothing does get cleaned, wouldn’t Solo have changed into a different set of clothes instead of wearing the same outfit?

lovelikewinter said:

The OOT would make the perfect Criterion release. That way the plebs can have their version and we can have the historically important set. I would buy it for full MSRP on release.

I’d pay full price for that - ALIEN & ALIENS also.

I’ve never been a fan of DISNEY but I require only two items from them: a fully-restored OOT in 4K and 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA (1954).

The Sh*thouse of Mouse need to wake up and smell the blue milk.

1. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK / STAR WARS.
2. RETURN OF THE JEDI.
3. ROGUE ONE.
4. THE FORCE AWAKENS / THE LAST JEDI.

I wonder if Mr Ren also destroyed his prized Vader collectable (along with his helmet)?

I enjoyed this film a lot, apart from a few (well, more than a few) missteps.

The Yoda force ghost looked bad - especially the very first shot of him. I didn’t think the blue aura surrounding him was pronounced enough. Maybe force ghosts begin to fade with time?

It was nice that he still had a sense of humour - something not seen in a long while.

rodneyfaile said:

I want 4K77 so bad!

I want 4K77.

I want 4K80.

I want 4K83.

I want 4K79 (ALIEN) so bad!

Bragging rights for life!

What’s AOL?

red5-626 said:

What if OT. com had a physical copy request Topic?
So people can ask some one to make them a copy and discuss reimbursement through PMs?

I tried downloading the files for the Despecialized trilogy once, it took about 24 hours - for one film. I also downloaded the software used to convert the files, the software did nothing, I gave up.

I still don’t have the Despecialized versions and have never seen them.

I would never pay for a fan edit/restoration. The 2006 OOT non-anamorphic DVD’s will do for now, until these films are shown the proper respect they deserve.