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#1321018
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‘Heir To The Jedi’ Duology
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Here’s an idea. If you want to end with TLJ but feel that there isn’t enough closure, you could do one of those montages that are at the end of some movies where we see an image or short scene of each main character and a text that describes what happened to them later in their lives. That way you could use shots from TROS or wherever you want and come up with a satisfying conclusion for each character.

And then perhaps throw in one of these including all the actors from the saga. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enAygqfhjCc

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#1320483
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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RogueLeader said:

I have a very clear idea for how to handle a Ben Lives alternate ending, which will be the first thing I work on once the film comes out on Blu-ray, but I kind of want to wait and see how much I can do on my own before I share it.

But speaking of Ben Lives, I’m still kind of debating on how to handle Ben bringing Rey back to life. It makes sense that if Ben resurrects Rey, that he will die since he gave her his life Force. So just cutting him dying might feel like it goes against what the movie established about the power.

So should we just have Ben save Rey and not die, regardless of the questions it might raise, or introduce some “divine intervention”?

Either divine intervention or just have Rey not fully die in the first place. Perhaps she gets hurt or just faints and he wakes/heals her before it’s clear that she’s dead. I like the idea of involving Leia though.

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#1317714
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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I tried a different approach to the holochess. I skip the turning on, and just cut from Han and Rey in the cockpit to Finn with the activated table. Then he shuts it off when Han comes in. That way you can imagine he tried it out on purpose. You keep the fan-service but the table is not conveniently activated by accident. I also cut the sad look on Rey’s face after Han’s “huh”.

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#1317310
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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I’ll put this here as well.

My attempt at incorporating the Emperor’s theme with the cue where Vader’s helmet is shown.

Here’s the combined music, using the front stereo track from the movie:
https://mega.nz/#!eZsC2CYI!wCHRa2maVNw1sY1CqGuhEtldDPPh2fl_twj-VYSxsqA

And here’s just the added music so you can mix it in yourself:
https://mega.nz/#!rV8iBAYb!MSwl8jKbt5gbkH7ofHVrodFC3h9Nmpl3Fe94MAhXWj0

I read an odd thing regarding this in the TROS visual dictionary.

“Kylo sought to commune with the helmet to contact the spirit who once inhabited it. Though Kylo had long been plagued by voices - invasive words from beyond that gnawed at his doubts - he heard nothing from the charred helm, despite his frequent and intense meditations.”

This seems to contradict the quote “Show me again, the power of the darkness”, implying that Kylo has been shown something by the helmet or otherwise.

Minor TROS spoilers

TROS tells us that Kylo has heard Vader’s voice inside his head, and I assumed this was through the helmet, but perhaps that is not the case. In TROS Kylo touches the helmet and sees flashing visions, so maybe thats how Kylo has been “shown” things, and the voices are a separate thing. Adding the Emperor’s theme to the helmet would contradict this.

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#1316228
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (SPOILERS)
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Hal 9000 said:

That’s an awesome channel. Something like this would be perfect, just needs to be a little softer:

https://youtu.be/HLsSgS-v14Y

I can send my version tomorrow. It’s the Vader theme on top meshed with the first notes of the Emperor’s theme with a dark male choir sound. So the Vader theme is what stands out, but you can sense the Emperor as well. Do you think there should be a bit of Emperor for the whole scene or just the helmet shot?

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#1315712
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (SPOILERS)
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Hal 9000 said:

Is anyone aware of a suitable bit of music which combines the Emperor’s theme and the Imperial March? I wonder if replacing the musical cue which accompanies Vader’s helmet would be helpful to connect to TROS.

I don’t feel it should replace the Imperial March, but evoking both themes would be appropriate. Does anyone know of such a piece, or could perhaps blend them like that?

I don’t know if there’s an existing combination that fits, but I’m working on combining the existing Vader theme from the helmet scene with a piece of the Emperor’s theme. We’ll see what I come up with.

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#1314116
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The Force Awakens: The Starlight Project - <strong>WORKPRINT RELEASED</strong>
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NeverarGreat said:

I assume you’re referring to ‘who talks first…’?

There are many edits which remove these lines, but whenever I watch them they tend to remove too many lighthearted moments to the point that the film starts to feel rather lifeless. I think Poe’s dialogue informs his character rather than detracting from it because of his unflappable bravado. Of course it contrasts with the tone of the scene which is why I’m still on the fence about it, but for now I can’t see a strong enough reason to warrant its removal.

What do you think about removing just one or the other of “who talks first” and “it’s hard to hear you with the mask”? I removed both at first, but perhaps I’ll keep the mask comment.

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#1313392
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The Force Awakens: The Starlight Project - <strong>WORKPRINT RELEASED</strong>
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NeverarGreat said:

Kylo - This edit paints Kylo in a more conflicted light. As such his cutting down of an unarmed civilian and ordering the murder of the whole village makes him far too villainous, especially considering later events in the saga. Other than Tekka’s murder, Kylo doesn’t kill anyone onscreen until Han so it’s more plausible that he will turn.

In my opinion the opening works well as an introduction to Kylo, especially. I think he needs to be introduced as the main villain, even if the truth is more nuanced. His interaction with San Tekka hints that there is more to Kylo, with lines like “I know where you came from” and “The First Order Rose from the dark side, you did not”. And then Kylo kills him, which shows his unwillingness to face his past (“let the past die”, literally) and makes Kylo feel more like a threat. I agree that it could be a good idea to tone down Kylo’s evil side, but it still has to be there to some extent. You could remove his order to kill the villagers, though. Killing San Tekka was personal, but I doubt he cares about what happens to the villagers. RogueLeader had an idea about using a different line for Kylo there and have him say “I leave that to you” (later said to Hux) to Phasma. I did that in my WIP edit, so the dialogue goes like this:
Phasma: “Sir, the villagers”
Kylo: “I leave that to you”
Phasma: “No survivors!” (a line from Battlefront 2)

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#1312523
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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oojason said:

It does seem there were some scenes cut from the film; from the ‘The Rise of Skywalker The Visual Dictionary’ (out on the 22nd December - though seems some have been sent out early), in this case Kylo Ren and ‘Cult Colonists’ on Mustafar:-

https://i.redd.it/i48venrjmq541.jpg

That guy looks like the ones Kylo fights in the first scene, which presumably takes place on Mustafar.

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#1311690
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread — * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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RU.08 said:

Mavimao said:

I’ll be seeing this in 5 hours (yay Europe!). I’ll let y’all know how it goes.

The premiere here is less than 90 minutes, lol, and still plenty of seats available at all my local cinemas. All I want to know before I buy a ticket is this. Is it the same JJ shaky-cam style cinematography as in The Force Awakens, if it is I’m not going. Let me know! This will determine whether or not I see it tomorrow.

This clip says yes. https://youtu.be/693qGarrgbw?t=15

To be fair this is an action sequence and may not be representative of the whole movie. On the other hand the movie is pretty action oriented and JJ and DoF Dan Mindel are back from TFA, so…

Personally I’ve never had a problem with shaky-cam, except in Cloverfield and First Man, both of which gave me motion sickness.

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#1311664
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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I don’t have 4K equipment yet, so I’m mostly interested in the special features and if there will be anything new in there. I imagine that I might replace my Blu-ray collection with something like this in a few years, but for now it seems too expensive. Especially considering that you could get almost 4 years of Disney+ for that money, and watch the 4K versions that way.

It also seems weird to put both the 4K and HD versions in the same massive set. If you have a 4K player you don’t need the HD discs and if you don’t have one you’d only want the HD discs. This way it just makes it unnecessarily expensive and probably physically huge as well.

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#1310547
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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pleasehello said:

Cobra Kai said:

pleasehello said:

I just listened to it as well.

It’s fine, but it’s pretty anemic when it comes to new thematic material with a couple of exceptions (both of which Sir Ridley mentioned). I know this isn’t a complete soundtrack, but as-is it has the least to offer of all three sequel trilogy soundtracks. It either spends a lot of time playing with different colors or weaving quickly in and out of motifs we’re already familiar with. I know John Williams is very old now and I honestly wonder how much involvement he really had in scoring this movie. Much of this soundtrack sounds like it might have been delegated to one of his proteges.

Also keep in mind, most of Williams’ scores that he’s composed over the course of his career were written AFTER the final cuts of the movies were finished. That is no longer the case as modern big budget movies are now cut and re-cut right up until the release, so composers no longer have such luxury. As a result the final scores end up being cut up and patched together by the music editor to match the final edit.
This is one reason why thematic scores in general are mostly a thing of the past; modern scores are no longer linked to the movie structure, but are just relegated to simply being appropriate moments for individual scenes.

So yes, Williams is very old now, but it’s also not really fair to compare his modern scores with his old classics where he was completely free to work his magic.

Yes, that’s true. But not being able to score the final cut doesn’t preclude a composer from writing compelling thematic material for the individual scenes you mention. Comparing this score to OT or PT scores is unfair and not something I would do, but even when comparing it to TFA, this score has a lot less meat.

At Johnny’s age it’s almost a certainty he had collaborators who contributed musical material to this score, so it’s not so much a question of if he had help, but rather how much help he had. And honestly that’s fine. I love John Williams and I’d rather he contributed only 50% of the score than if he didn’t contribute at all. It’s a fine score and it’s no less than I expected.

I don’t think he needs help, unless you have some proof that he has ever used ghost writers I’ll assume that’s not the case. And I believe he had access to a rough cut of the film when he started composing, and he could make changes and record new versions until very late in the post production. He started recording in June and finished just 20 days ago. That’s at least five months, so I’m sure he’s had time to do his best.

Also, here’s a new amazing and spoilery clip:
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/e9s5uy/new_the_rise_of_skywalker_clip/

SPOILER

It confirms that Palpatine talked to Kylo as Snoke and Vader (through the burned helmet).

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#1310516
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I may have listened to it as well. Too early to say if it’s the best one, I really like the previous ones.

There were two new themes that stood out to me, one of which might be a friendship theme for the main gang, and another one that sounds like a triumphant theme with a bit of a romantic vibe. Also many uses of the emperor’s theme, although I think this selection focuses on the music that isn’t based on earlier work (because of Oscar Academy rules).

The last song is curious, it’s called A New Home (a nod to A New Hope, I assume), but it’s not cosy music for a happy ending or epic music for a twin sunset shot, it has a subdued and mysterious vibe. I don’t think it’s the actual last music in the film though, this selection leaves out the credits music and the lead up to it.

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#1310279
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Tracklist (SPOILERS)

1 Prologue (1:45)
2 Falcon Flight (2:22)
3 We Go Together (2:10)
4 In the Desert (2:26)
5 A Prisoner (1:23)
6 To Kimiji (1:37)
7 Fleeing from Kimiji (1:53)
8 Hallway Shooting (2:11)
9 Hard to Get Rid Of (2:19)
10 Join Me (2:21)
11 The Old Death Star (2:14)
12 Off the Waterfront (1:03)
13 Final Saber Duel (1:38)
14 Healing Wounds (2:49)
15 Advice (1:54)
16 Battle of the Resistance (1:54)
17 Approaching the Throne (4:16)
18 Parents (1:57)
19 Coming Together (1:44)
20 Seeing Sights (3:17)
21 Rescue (1:10)
22 Farewell (4:27)
23 A New Home (1:42)

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#1309815
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Star Wars Episode II: The Approaching Storm (Finished!)
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I’ve been checking the Drive recently to watch the edits before TROS and couldn’t download anything until yesterday. Before that I could only get the TinyEncode versions so I watched episode I and II that way. Very enjoyable edits. I haven’t watched II much so I didn’t miss anything that was cut and could enjoy what was there even if it’s my least favorite episode. I watched episode I a lot when I was younger and have more nostalgia for that one, but I’m glad that all my favorite moments and details were still there in your edit, and it was nice to see some new additions as well. I did miss a “yipee” or two, probably mostly because I was expecting them, though. When Anakin jumped down from Watto’s counter I had to say “yipee” to myself. 😛 Next I’ll be checking out your III and IV, I managed to get the 1080p versions for those. Looking forward to watching them!

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#1309598
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DuracellEnergizer said:

Sir Ridley said:

Hal 9000 said:

I predict Kylo Ren will cut Rey’s head off.

I predict that he then undergoes a medical procedure to attach her head next to his own, and this two headed monster proceeds to rule the galaxy as Emperor Reylo.

Just what we need, a The Thing with Two Heads rehash.

It is inevitable at this point. Remember Maz’s line from TFA: “The belonging you seek is not behind you, it is a head.”