SilverWook

Sorry you're having problems.

Jay will have to know what your original account is to help you.

Wow! It's a young Bob Falfa! ;)

Seriously though, Lucasfilm should be talking to this guy.

JEDIT: Hard to find an image that won't break!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/entertainment/yvonne-craig-batgirl-death/index.html

I'm losing too many childhood icons this year. Screw you, 2015, seriously.

I had the same thought. The American Film Institute butted heads with Lucasfilm over what version of Star Wars they could run in a festival devoted to essential films of the 20th century. Star Wars was chosen to represent the 1970's

Cut to a few years later, they're honoring him, and running the SE's without hesitation.

Nobody wants to rock the boat.

I wish footage of John Belushi, (wearing a Godzilla suit) hosting Megalon when it aired on NBC back in '77 would turn up. Somebody must have taped that!

Lucas has called it a space fantasy.

JayArgonaut said:

Kepling said:

So my question here is:

What movies, other than the OT Star Wars, have been "updated," then the original "lost?" Star Wars is probably the most famous example of this sort of thing happening, but are there other examples of this phenomenon?

The theatrical PT releases of AOTC and ROTS are "lost" because they have never been made (officially) available on home video, only the modified versions and those are the ones that are provided to broadcasters for TV airings.

Apart from a handful of early home video copies, The Devil's Advocate is unavailable in its original form: several scenes involving the sculpture were modified by WB because of litigation. On my UK DVD, HK VCD and during every TV broadcast that I've watched, the digital blurring is applied.

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=4057

Iron Man was also altered for similar reasons but I wonder how many eagle-eyed people have ever noticed?

http://ironman.wikia.com/wiki/Iron_Man_(film)#Home_Media

http://collider.com/iron-man-censored/

If more come to mind, I'll add them.

 The Laserdisc is uncut.

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/08173/15090/Devil's-Advocate-The

The only way you can identify an uncut Region 1 DVD is the disclaimer on the back of the case.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Devils-Advocate-Original-Unedited-DVD-Release-/262007914445?

As Garrick Hagon is still around, it would be sweet if they gave him the part of a rebel commander or something in one of these films.

Rocket Raccoon's first appearance was in 1976. (No matter what the AMC show Comic Book Men believes.)  I would care about Jax even if George hadn't pressured Marvel to drop him from the book. I guess he was cool with Hedji, the porcupine alien who could shoot quills from his body, or it didn't matter since Hedji was killed off.

That Jaxxon was too out there for the man who gave us Jar Jar makes me love him even more. ;)

Rocket Rabbit might be a subtle reference to the cartoon where Bugs was shot in a rocket to the moon and encountered Marvin the Martian for the first time.

And now that I think about it, this could work once the duel goes indoors, starting the moment a lightsaber hits a control panel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H6amDbAwlY

I suggested surf music for the lava ride many moons ago. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p13yZAjhU0M

DuracellEnergizer said:

Godzilla vs. Megalon (1973) -- F

 You clearly haven't been watching the MST3K version. ;)

Be sure to drink your Ovaltine?

JEDIT:Son of a...! ;)

regularjoe said:

I look at the franchises as fanfiction. Some of it is quite good (TESB) and most of it is quite bad (everything else, yes that includes ROTJ).

What bothers me is the merchandising juggernaut.  I've seen a lot of the recent SW toys and they're junk.  A lot of the pages carrying news about TFA carry a lot of news about the toys and people (adults I am guessing) are going nuts about the toys.

I don't really care about the toys.  I know the merchandising paid for the brand as we know it today, but really, a lot of what has been produced is pretty awful.  Screw all the toys, the action figures, etc.  Please give me a good movie.  I'm not expecting sequel quality of TESB but please, at least a lot better than ROTJ/PT.

 Tacky Star Wars merchandise is nothing new. ;)

Can we please not derail the thread with arguments about lightsaber colors? We can easily make a whole separate thread for that. Thanks!

towne32 said:

SilverWook said:

towne32 said:

TK-949 said:

towne32 said:

TK-949 said:


Currently I'm watching Torchwood as well as the first episodes of classic Doctor Who.

 People who don't enjoy classic british TV will probably find the first doctor hard to get through (though that first episode is enjoyable to most fans).

My girlfriend and I are watching classic Star Trek right now, so I'm in the 60s mood anyway. Just after Season 5 of nuWho I watched the wonderful TV movie "An Adventure in Space and Time" which made me curious about classic Doctor Who.

 The first few seasons are even more slow paced and low budget than Trek. It's more as if you're watching a play. They didn't cut or do reshoots unless they really had to (the entire set falls down, an actor curses, etc). So you'll see people slip up on their lines or repeat them, little stumbles here and there, the occasional set wobble. All part of the charm. :)

 Videotape was expensive (one factor in old episodes being erased) and video editing in post really didn't exist yet. It boggles my mind that videotape was sometimes spliced with a razor blade and glued together in the early days.

The behind the scenes stuff on the Hartnell era DVD's makes one appreciate how technically complex some stories were to pull off, essentially doing them like a "live" show.

To think I used to stress out over doing a simple three camera talk show back in college!

 It's true that editing was limited. But things were certainly spliced together and/or reshot. They had occasional on location shots for Hartnell (Dalek Invasion, Reign of Terror). My understanding is that the reshoots didn't happen due to being on an extremely tight time schedule. Setting everything up again took a lot of time, and going over the scheduled end time was extremely expensive. 

 They shot film when on location, (standard for nearly all BBC shows well into the 80's) so that allowed for retakes, and some editing before transferring it to tape.

I've heard about the dreaded countdown clock of studio time remaining, and the frenetic efforts to beat it.

Every show takes time to find it's legs. Fortunately, the Daleks captured viewer's imaginations in a big way.

And when did the Falcon get a flux capacitor installed? ;)

With all this merchandise hitting stores well ahead of the movie, going shopping is going to be fraught with spoiler peril the next few months.

towne32 said:

TK-949 said:

towne32 said:

TK-949 said:


Currently I'm watching Torchwood as well as the first episodes of classic Doctor Who.

 People who don't enjoy classic british TV will probably find the first doctor hard to get through (though that first episode is enjoyable to most fans).

My girlfriend and I are watching classic Star Trek right now, so I'm in the 60s mood anyway. Just after Season 5 of nuWho I watched the wonderful TV movie "An Adventure in Space and Time" which made me curious about classic Doctor Who.

 The first few seasons are even more slow paced and low budget than Trek. It's more as if you're watching a play. They didn't cut or do reshoots unless they really had to (the entire set falls down, an actor curses, etc). So you'll see people slip up on their lines or repeat them, little stumbles here and there, the occasional set wobble. All part of the charm. :)

 Videotape was expensive (one factor in old episodes being erased) and video editing in post really didn't exist yet. It boggles my mind that videotape was sometimes spliced with a razor blade and glued together in the early days.

The behind the scenes stuff on the Hartnell era DVD's makes one appreciate how technically complex some stories were to pull off, essentially doing them like a "live" show.

To think I used to stress out over doing a simple three camera talk show back in college!

TV's Frink said:

Some good ideas there (especially the submarine one), and I forgot about the Batman theme.

 None of the submarine sonar ping sound effects sounded right to me, until I recalled the most famous one from my childhood. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBg-4nxX6zU (At 1:33 if you're in a hurry.)

Short but sweet. I never fail to be impressed with how you trim the fat from the prequels.

I thought you were going to go with the suggestion of the Batman movie theme for Obi Wan stealing Steve's ship?

JEDIT:Maybe have a submarine sonar ping sound effect when Obi Wan is still underwater?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFUcRu9UcAo

The clones could say something after their heads come off but don't finish the sentence?

Those dead Wookiees aren't dead, but snoring loudly?

Those steps at the bottom look familiar!

That still doesn't get him off the hook for the Laserdisc wisecrack. ;)

Now that's how you do a movie poster! The blue TIE's are giving me flashbacks to an early SW inspired arcade game I poured a lot of quarters into back in the late '70's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwELyhziVmc