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#1074352
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Third revision:

Dear Disney and Lucasfilm,

Today is the 40th anniversary of Star Wars, the film that started it all. Yet, where is that film? No, not the special editon, the original 1977 film. The one we grew up with. The one we saw more times than any other film before or since. The film that changed our lives forever.

Whether young or old, whether we saw it in a theater or on home video, it prompted a desire in some of us to make movies or tell stories of our own. George Lucas lit a spark that remains within us today.

One thing we all share are the memories of where and with whom we saw Star Wars, and even of shooting down imaginary TIE fighters out the back window of the car on the way home. For others, it was a brightly shining light in the middle of a turbulent childhood. If Luke and his friends could triumph over their trials, maybe we could too.

All these years later, we would love to revisit the Original Trilogy that we remember, to recapture those memories of a long time ago, in a movie theater or living room far far away. Those of us with families want to be able to show our kids exactly what we saw when we were their age and relive it with them. It should be such a simple thing to do.

Only it isn’t.

We’re limited in our choices to outdated video formats that are increasingly difficult to obtain and inch closer to extinction each year. And the now out of print bonus DVDs from 2006, which utilize ancient video transfers from 1993, are hardly better, if one can find them at all.

None of us ever imagined as kids that these historic versions might fade from memory, ultimately, disappearing from the collective consciousness altogether. To the point where CGI scenes created in 1997 are now mistaken for the innovative groundbreaking FX technology of the 1970’s. Film history is being obscured, if not rewritten. We live in an era in which even “bad” movies are respected enough to be meticulously restored and made publically available. Shouldn’t a movie as loved and as culturally significant as Star Wars deserve the same treatment in it’s original form?

We don’t bemoan the Special Edition’s existence. It simply isn’t the version of the trilogy we fell in love with. The Original Original Trilogy, or OOT, deserves to be seen in the absolute best quality afforded by modern cinema and 21st-century home video formats so that it can be loved again by all.

There is room for all versions of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of The Jedi to coexist. And we want to give you our money for them; we really do! Please give us that opportunity. At least give us hope that we will be able to do so soon. Some of us aren’t getting any younger! That is all we ask.

Sincerely yours,
The Staff and Members of Originaltrilogy.com

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#1074345
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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It’s has been previously stated by Robert Harris that any work needed to be done would be peanuts. Disney puts out obscure titles via their movie club, and other studios put out similar titles via Made On Demand. OOT sales would eclipse sales figures of any of those films by a mile.
Something like Manos got nearly $50k put up by fans. Can you imagine what an OOT kickstarter would do?

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#1074198
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Star Wars Despecialized Editions - Custom Bluray Set (Released)
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JohnStewart said:

ahughes03 said:

GhormleyPablo said:

I need an invite to myspleen (?). Is there anything special I need to do to get an invite?

There’s a separate forum post for invite requests. Since you’re new, here’s a link to the invite request post.

Good luck!

Better off just buying them on the usual auction site. Especially for those of us that no longer have optical drives in our systems to burn things.

Oh the hell no.
http://originaltrilogy.com/announcement/Fan-edit-preservation-forum-rules-and-FAQ/id/5950

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#1074108
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All Things Star Trek
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captainsolo said:

I finally finished TOS. At first the overbearing color was weird but I got used to it. Now I quite like it-particularly since eitnlooks amazing on my hdcrt. But every female crew member always having to wear miniskirts is really silly.

So I now get all the season three hate. No one episode is really bad but s3 is endless great or decent ideas that are either never developed fully or developed at all. However I will say that at time I did have this sense in later season 2 episodes.

But I did an actual spit take when I came across SPACE HIPPIES. That was hysterical.

My thoughts are that season 1 is the best overall with some episodes from season 2 roped in. I’ve now started the animated series which is far better than I expected for a 70’s filmation show.

Is the alternate Where No Man Has Gone Before a completely different edit or just slightly different?

Space hippies were everywhere in the late 60’s. Even Lost In Space had to deal with them. 😉

The alternate WNMHGB is different in there’s some additional footage, and what is commonly referred to as A Quinn/Martin Production style presentation, which was very common for one hour dramatic shows well into the 70’s.
https://youtu.be/Z68ixSPjoTo

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#1073855
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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I think you can argue THX had a cult film status. At least two music videos have been inspired by it. Queen did one in the 80’s and a Hip Hop duo did their own homage in the 90’s.
The angry letters I saw printed in Cinefantastique magazine from readers who didn’t like Star Wars when it came out, wondered how such a film could even be made by the same man who made THX. 😉

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#1073847
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Fang Zei said:

Z6PO said:

Fang Zei said:

The exploitation of our nostalgia to sell the new movies and shows is a valid criticism. Touché, SilverWook.

But for me it goes even deeper. The Exorcist and Apocalypse Now were both revised and yet we can still view all versions in modern quality. Neither “Episode IV: A New Hope” nor its 1997 special edition won six academy awards in 1978, Star Wars did.

All versions of Close encounters of the third kind, all versions of Blade Runner… (and what about THX1138? I know it’s not Lucasfilm, but still…)

I’ve brought up CE3K/BR ad nauseum and those other examples just popped into my head.

I’d love it if Warner restored the '71 and '77 versions of THX-1138. Back when the dvd came out in 2004 my roommate picked up the single-disc sku out of curiosity (y’know, the one that had much crazier cover art for some reason?) and was watching it on his computer with headphones. I remember him saying that the cgi wasn’t nearly as jarring in this as it was in Star Wars. So yeah, anecdotal evidence and all, but the cgi being “not as jarring” kinda hurts the chances that anyone would care to see the original version. Not being nearly as well known a movie as American Graffiti is another thing going against it. Graffiti, meanwhile, hasn’t been extensively altered with cgi, so most people probably don’t know it’s not the same version that came out in '73.

Star Wars fulfills both criteria. It’s insanely well known and has been extensively/obviously altered.

Has your friend ever seen the original version of THX? The CGI is jarring as hell to me. 😉