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#1407077
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George Lucas's Sequel Trilogy
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I prefer the worldbuilding and general premise of this trilogy over the sequels we got, by a large margin. However, bringing Maul back would have been a big mistake and would’ve been very confusing for people who are only familiar with the movies. He’d been absent since Episode I, as far as most people are concerned. Him showing up again, and audiences having to watch an animated series to fill in the gap, would be very off-putting for people.

In a way, I’m glad George’s sequel trilogy didn’t get made, since if it was written and created by the man himself, it would be harder to disregard. And he didn’t seem to have a firm idea of what he even wanted the sequels to be (though neither did Disney and Lucasfilm, to be fair). I think a sequel trilogy was something George would toy with and write notes on every few years, but I doubt he ever would have gone through with it, since he’s getting up there in years, wants to spend time with his family, and ultimately, he had more of a story to tell going backwards in time than forwards.

It reminds me of how J.R.R. Tolkien actually started writing a sequel to Lord of the Rings. He wrote the first couple chapters, then scrapped the project when he realized

a) It was depressing and ruined the bittersweet ending he had created

b) It wouldn’t contribute anything substantial or insightful to the Middle-earth mythology. The story was complete. Anything post-LotR would have been anti-climactic.

I think, on some level, George knew his sequel trilogy was never going to happen by his own hand. It was all just ideas and notes. But he did certainly feel blindsided when he realized Disney wasn’t using his treatments (whatever those treatments entailed). Bob Iger himself made that clear, and I’m sure he softened George’s reaction when he described it. I imagine George was fuming. The fact is, Disney didn’t want to spend any time pondering or formulating what their sequel trilogy was going to be. They wanted to push it out as quickly as possible. It was never about the story to them.

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#1406844
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Unpopular Opinion Thread
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m4zzic said:

He never should have taken it off in the first place! It totally destroyed the aura. Imagine Darth Vader had taken off his helmet in ANH after a few minutes!

I agree with you that, in an ideal world, the mask should’ve stayed on. But, given what happened with Kylo by the end of TFA, there was no way for him to go back to being the mysterious, formidable masked warrior he was at the start of TFA. The illusion was gone. So, the best option for the following two films would’ve been to just ditch the mask and try to develop Kylo without it.

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#1406843
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Unpopular Opinion Thread
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daveinthecave said:

Servii said:

A New Hope has tighter writing than Empire Strikes Back.

Could you elaborate on this. I’ve always been of the opinion that ESB had the tightest script but I’d be glad for a different take.

There are a few things I can think of from the movie. I don’t want to come off like I’m bashing Empire. I love Empire. I just think Star Wars is marginally better in terms of writing.

When Han is planning to leave to pay off his debt to Jabba, everyone (including Han himself) acts like this has to be a permanent departure. When really, there’s no reason why, in the 3-year gap between movies, Han couldn’t have just stopped by to pay off his debt then come back to the Alliance. He really only needed to make a quick trip and come back, but everyone acts like he’s abandoning the cause forever.

The whole Mynock/Space Slug sequence felt a little unnecessary, since the heroes find themselves in the exact same situation of being chased by a Star Destroyer as they were before.

Han’s trick of camouflaging the Falcon on the back of a Star Destroyer probably shouldn’t have worked since there were so many other Destroyers nearby facing different directions, so one of them was bound to spot it.

It’s odd that Han or Leia never noticed Slave I flying behind them during their sublight journey to Bespin.

Luke was able to go straight to Bespin, despite having no way of knowing what planet he saw in his vision or where that planet was located.

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#1406666
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Unpopular Opinion Thread
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A New Hope has tighter writing than Empire Strikes Back.

The first act of RotJ is my favorite part of the movie.

TRoS is the most enjoyable of the sequel trilogy. TFA was the hardest to sit through.

I didn’t like Harrison Ford’s performance in TFA.

Phil Lord and Chris Miller should have been allowed to finish Solo, and the movie should have been a comedy, though ideally, it should have been a Lando movie instead.

Killing off Han in RotJ would have been a mistake. If there was any time to kill him off, it should have been at the end of ESB during the freezing process.

Kylo Ren’s mask should have remained destroyed and never been repaired or replaced. That was one of the parts of TLJ I actually liked.

Modern Star Wars is mostly bad, only occasionally having moments of greatness.

Lando is better than Han.

Mandalorians are overused, and are no longer cool.

Revenge of the Sith has gone from underrated to overrated in the span of the past few years, and I don’t fully understand why.

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#1406664
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Anyone else dislike Rogue One? I feel like the only person.
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I will say, I did enjoy Rogue One a lot, despite my issues with it. In my eyes, I would say it’s about tied with Revenge of the Sith for best Star Wars movie outside of the OT. I love Gareth Edwards as a director, and think he did a great job with what he was given, and would really want to see a director’s cut if that were possible. From what I know, the film was originally supposed to be more of a gritty war movie, and was reworked and re-shot into more formulaic Star Wars fare, so it would be interesting to see if that last minute change was good or bad for the final product.

But no, I wouldn’t consider it on par with any of the OT. It stands out amid the mediocrity of modern Star Wars, and managed to wow me at several points, but it’s not the same lightning in a bottle that the OT was. I view it as an honorary Star Wars film made out of love for the original films, that does a great job of mimicking those films without feeling overly derivative or disrespectful, but it’s not a masterpiece. Just a solid movie.

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#1405444
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Anyone else dislike Rogue One? I feel like the only person.
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I still preferred the Rogue One cast over the Sequels cast. I wanted to spend more time with the Rogue One characters, and was disappointed that I couldn’t because I thought they had a lot of potential as a group. Whereas with the exception of Finn, none of the Sequel characters interested me, and we all know what they did to Finn.

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#1404911
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Anyone else dislike Rogue One? I feel like the only person.
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In many ways, I think that Rogue One is similar to Revenge of the Sith. Both movies have a messy beginning and middle, which is partially salvaged by a strong third act that leaves people with a more positive impression leaving the movie. I don’t mind the characters being underdeveloped, though I think a little more screen time of them working together as a team would have helped me care about them more and view them as a group (a la The Dirty Dozen).

My main issues with Rogue One are that I don’t like how the Death Star’s exhaust port flaw was made into a deliberate, significant act of sabotage rather than just a small oversight in construction. I also think that the ending doesn’t line up with the beginning of ANH since Vader literally sees the Tantive IV fleeing from the battle with his own eyes, but in ANH, Vader never mentions that, and Leia acts like she has plausible deniability.

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#1404900
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Can we get some love for Yub Nub?
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Yub Nub fits the movie better and feels less generic than its replacement. It’s very innocent and light-hearted sounding, which I enjoy. It’s a simple, joyful song that fits the Ewoks, with lyrics representing the Rebellion’s victory that they had suffered so long to achieve. The fact that the trilogy, after putting its heroes through so many horrific experiences, ends on a note of such sheer, childlike joy is very satisfying.

Also, I’ve never been a fan of the added planet montage, either. It doesn’t make sense in-universe and is unnecessary. The Emperor is dead. The point is taken by the audience, while still leaving open the possibility of future stories involving the Empire as a faction.

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#1403695
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How often do you watch the Original Trilogy?
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As a kid, I would rent an OT film from the video store every single Friday for years. I took an extended break for most of the 2010s, only rewatching my old GOUT DVDs a few months before TFA came out. But, after discovering Harmy’s work last year, I’ve had a renewed interest in the series, so I’ll probably go back to watching the OT at least once a year going forward.

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#1402527
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Is the 1997 Special Edition important?
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The 1997 versions were what my family rented from the video store when I was a kid, so I do have a lot of nostalgia for those versions of the films. Since they never made the jump to DVD, despite supposedly being George’s “final cuts,” they now exist in this awkward limbo state, and will likely keep on fading into obscurity, but I’d definitely like to see them preserved in some form as a sort of curiosity. Because, despite the many poor decisions George made with them, they were a landmark in the history of the franchise, for better or worse.

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#1402150
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Han Shoots First - Any valid reason to not have Han shoot first?
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If you were trying to create a radical fan edit of the OT where Han turns out to be Force sensitive, then you could use him dodging Greedo’s shot as an early clue to his Jedi-like reflexes. Of course, Han having the Force is the only way I can make sense of his point-blank dodge to begin with, cause there’s no way a non-Force user could dodge like that.

You know, I remember seeing both versions of this scene (the original and the 1997 version) as a kid, and I recall being very confused by the blink-and-you’ll-miss-it exchange of blaster fire that had been added. It happened so fast and looked so janky, I couldn’t really tell what was going on in that split second.

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#1398891
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The OOT has been officially unavailable for almost a decade now
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It’s that lack of availability that makes me want to spread the word about fan preservations as much as I can to my friends and family. This weekend, my family will be watching the Despecialized trilogy for the first time. None of them have even seen the unaltered versions since they were in the theater, and I’m very excited to make those available to them again. I would be very happy to see some official release at some point, but after all this time, I’ve resigned myself to the reality that fan restorations will always be our only decent option.

It seems so counterproductive not to restore and release them. Doing that would be hugely profitable and produce a lot of fan goodwill towards Lucasfilm. But it seems that George was firm in his demands, and I doubt Disney has any interest in releasing a “non-canon” version of the trilogy alongside their current version.

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#1394910
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<strong>The Empire Strikes Back</strong> - a general <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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The Force has gotten way too overpowered. They needed to place a ceiling on the extent of Force powers at some point, but they just never did, and now it’s gone far beyond what should be possible. I could let Force Lightning slide if it was rare and only something the most powerful Dark siders could use, but stuff like Force speed and Force item teleportation is just too much.

Also, I’ve realized that ESB is the only Star Wars film to end with a shot in space. (Except for Solo, maybe? I’d have to rewatch that to be sure.)

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#1393567
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Special Edition Changes that SHOULD have been made/should be made in the future
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Add Shmi’s grave to the background of shots of the Lars homestead.

Add the hyperspace effect outside the cockpit during Han and Leia’s conversation on their way to Yavin IV.

Add Vader’s TIE fighter jumping into hyperspace after the first Death Star’s destruction.

Carry the changes made to Cloud City’s windows over to every shot that features those windows, so they’re not inconsistent anymore.

Add Kashyyyk to the celebration montage at the end of RotJ.

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#1390471
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Jabba was a poser who lived in his parents' basement
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The more I think about RotJ, the more I think that this is actually believable, even if Jabba isn’t literally living with his parents. As far as we know, Jabba may not have any actual power in the galaxy. Maybe he’s just been set up for life by his wealthy family, who have given him his own desert hangout and enough spare money to give him the illusion of real power.

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#1389505
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Dave Prowse 1935-2020
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It’s hard to say goodbye to a legend like this. His performance helped make Vader the immortal icon he is today, and left a powerful impression on me as a child, and on many others. He had such immense presence everytime he was onscreen, so that every moment was memorable, and that no doubt led to Vader being my favorite character. Prowse was very often underappreciated for his role, sadly, so I hope he’ll now be given due honor as people say goodbye to him and remember how important he was to the trilogy.

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#1388866
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HARMY's Despecialized Disappointment
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I second sade’s recommendation. The D+xx projects are your best option currently if you want a polished version of the trilogy that cuts out the most distracting changes while leaving in some of the subtle improvements (like the removal of the orange blob under the speeder, for example, or the cleaning up of matte lines and fixing of effects gaffes). They use the highest quality sources currently available,so while they’re not the pure authentic experience like Project 4Kxx is, and have been touched up visually, the editing seams should be much less noticeable compared to Despecialized.

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#1388014
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Opinion: Return Of The Jedi is Very Underrated. Do You Agree?
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I do think a lot of fans are overly harsh on RotJ. It’s my third favorite film in the franchise and will always be a personal favorite of mine when speaking about films in general.

People can always discuss what could’ve been done differently with the film and argue over the validity of different creative decisions, but when you get down to it, it’s a really good movie that does a great job of closing off the trilogy and wrapping up the overarching stories of both the OT and (in hindsight) the prequels.

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#1387144
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Despecialized or the Special Editions; Which do you prefer - and why?
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I’m not a strict purist, so I don’t mind the idea of older films being tweaked or visually polished in small ways, but most of the SE changes are distracting and actively detrimental to the films, for no good reason. The added effects have aged poorly, for the most part, and are poorly integrated into the films. Not to mention, I resent the fact that they’ve been presented as the only, “true” versions of the films rather than just alternate variations.

I’m content with fan preservations from now on, for sure.