Sambarker04

Ah okay

Sambarker04 said:

UPDATE (12/08/25): Honestly, I don’t know if I may want to cancel the project since I am honestly stuck, especially to pay respect to Tristan, but the raw scans are the only way to get the best quality possible since the 4K version’s bitrate is problematic. Though I do want to grab an update though since I’m not a fan of the LUT I did. Turns out I think there’s some color and luminance bleeding in there, and it seems every reel is of a different film stock, meaning the red fade is easily more distracting when using the same LUT based on reel 1, and since the color grading in my second attempt feels extremely hard for me, I felt like something who knows how to handle color grading very well to help me with it to match the LD and to also make sure there’s no noticeable color and luminance bleeding on it. I will PM the leaked print and my recorded LD footage for reference so you can message me the LUTs of all 5 reels so I can use them. Also, I was thinking that I want to merge the 1080p with the 4K footage to patch out parts that has a very low bitrate, though I was able to spot two, some parts of it are really confusing as it could be either from the 1080p version, or the 4K version. I just think this project can be too much for me, hence the drama and all, but honestly, I need to see if there will be any either fate or hope to it as time goes on, though I don’t know if there is a high chance it will be cancelled.

Okay, tbf, considering that people went off topic lately, it might just got harder for me. But you know, the big quote when you’re like this is “never give up”, right? So hopefully, it will be done. Though, of course, like I said, I’m still waiting for those blocky moments to be tracked so I can start finally working on this revival.

Someone is actually selling Cinema DTS discs of the film, though the first disc is of the domestic release, so it would be perfect to include it in this preservation too. (https://www.ebay.com/itm/374920289284)

UPDATE (18/08/2025): This one is late though, since I forgot to say this, but a few days ago, a now deleted user PM’d me on my DeviantArt account that the leaked scan was also available on X as well, and it is the crappy 4K encode, though people were thankfully only to point out 2 moments where the encode is blocky, but, just to make sure, I’m still waiting for my private friend to help me find other blocky moments too. I just want to let you guys know about that and to spread the word to never leak fan preservations to the public.

Also, like I said, anything said unrelated to this topic must be said through PM, NOT here. This was to furthur prevent any more drama. Thanks

DylanDrew said:

Your discord friend who gave you permission to work on a scan that’s not theirs?

Well, we’re focusing on making a better version of the leaked scans. This is what I meant.

DylanDrew said:

You’re asking for trists pro res files. It’ll never be on topic

I know, especially since it would obviously be impossible to have those now, so I have to use both leaked sources, but I have to wait for my Discord friend to come back and respond.

stretch009 said:

It would be nice if this thread got back on topic again.

Same here. i want this to be a revival, not another case of drama again.

UPDATE (16/08/25): This is going to be the last update before I leave for Rhodes on Tuesday. I managed to grab the second Chinese bootleg DVD, though it is the same as the previous, but it looks to have zero reauthoring aside from shrinking to single layer. Thankfully, the subtitles seem to have zero issues since on the first, there would seem to be a small square in on blank spaces between the number of subtitles appearing. This wasn’t the case in the second bootleg, though the size of it is still the same, so I think it was Disney’s doing.

UPDATE (13/08/25) Just decided to do the English LD-G now with the Japanese Deluxe LD. Just like the CC, it will be in ASS format.

UPDATE (12/08/25): I have done the new LUTs, turns out maybe reel 2 is the only one from a different stock since the rest do look the same when commparing the regrade of the first LUT to the LD.

DylanDrew said:

wrap it up buddy you not getting shit

Thanks. Speaking of happy news…

UPDATE (12/08/25): To be fair, I’m just not in a good mood last night since this is the most difficult project I might have done, so hopefully I’ll find a way to get this completed. It’s just how I’m not allow to mention my collaborator’s name again, and maybe because EPho3nix was trolling me or hopefully he was just joking around, as you can see from the last few posts. We’ll see if it will go on or not.

UPDATE (12/08/25): Finally got the Japanese Deluxe CAV LaserDisc and one of the Chinese bootleg DVDs. The bootleg DVD does seem to be a reauthoring of the R3 DVD, though only the Taiwanese Mandarin and Cantonese dubs are included, as the Thai and Indonesian languages are only subtitled, so the only bet to find the Thai dub (since the Indonesian dub was done after the Blu-ray release) was to find a Thai VCD release. Speaking of subtitles, at least I think subtitles do look like they were made by the original authoring team themselves, especially since the Indonesian subtitles do look close to the NTSC English subtitles, though they were enlarged and I honestly don’t know if this was the bootleggers’ doing or Disney. And for the Japanese Deluxe LD, The analog tracks on that LD was only the Japanese dub of the film on the left, and the commentary track dubbed in the same language (with the English version of the film playing over it.). However, once I’ve done capturing the audio for the commentary, i noticed there are clicks and pops in the audio. I think my ESI U24XL seem to be working fine still, though I don’t know if it is showing signs the discs are rotting or not, or maybe the laser is starting to die out, I don’t know.

Change of plan. I’ll see if I can do the LUTs myself. I already done the first reel, so I’ll do the rest.

UPDATE (12/08/25): Honestly, I don’t know if I may want to cancel the project since I am honestly stuck, especially to pay respect to Tristan, but the raw scans are the only way to get the best quality possible since the 4K version’s bitrate is problematic. Though I do want to grab an update though since I’m not a fan of the LUT I did. Turns out I think there’s some color and luminance bleeding in there, and it seems every reel is of a different film stock, meaning the red fade is easily more distracting when using the same LUT based on reel 1, and since the color grading in my second attempt feels extremely hard for me, I felt like something who knows how to handle color grading very well to help me with it to match the LD and to also make sure there’s no noticeable color and luminance bleeding on it. I will PM the leaked print and my recorded LD footage for reference so you can message me the LUTs of all 5 reels so I can use them. Also, I was thinking that I want to merge the 1080p with the 4K footage to patch out parts that has a very low bitrate, though I was able to spot two, some parts of it are really confusing as it could be either from the 1080p version, or the 4K version. I just think this project can be too much for me, hence the drama and all, but honestly, I need to see if there will be any either fate or hope to it as time goes on, though I don’t know if there is a high chance it will be cancelled.

EPho3nix said:

You ain’t getting the raw scan LMFAO

💀

BoingoBanshee said:

Peter was not responsible for the scanning whatsoever. You can tell because it’s actually a good scan…

Okay, thanks. I was just thinking that I need to know if anyone who did the scan still has the raw scans so I can get in touch to get access to them.

So this is something that I and someone I know have been working on for a while. Our job was to revive the leaked 35mm scan to make it the ultimate presentation of the film as originally seen in cinemas back in 1995.

So for those who are unfamiliar with the revival, lemme give you the tragic backstory (seriously!).

Back in 2023, TristAndShout64 started a donation project for a 4K scan of an Australian 35mm print of the film, meaning it has the original English version and not from another language (i.e., from the German 35mm preservation of The Lion King and the open matte preservation of the West German print of Back to the Future.). However, during its near completion, along came the leaks and cyberbullying, so in June of '25, he cancelled the project.

However, help is on the way as someone came in to give me the link of the leak so I can go ahead and revive it. When I meant ‘revive’, I meant look frame complete, since even though Trist said there was a splice at the beginning of reel 3, there was also a splice at the end of reel 4, as well as regrading it with the LD footage since the color does look faded to me. In fact, this is how the film was originally going to look based on what the opening night bootleg looks like. Eventually, based on the review copy file I made, his Discord pals approved to let me do it. However, looking back at the review copy, I felt like something is wrong with it, especially with the color grade. I used VEGAS Pro’s Color Match plugin using the LD footage as source. This led to color bleeding with the footage, and it honestly felt very distracting, so I decided to make a LUT file for future cases and when I tested it, it looks way better.

Though I did do a better take, I’m honestly not a fan of the 4K file, since it has alot of rare blocky AVC artifacts, such as the Disney logo at the start, which isn’t the case in the 1080p version. Though I was able to get access to the 1080p version by him recently, which I knew is the exact same file that was leaked on 4chan (no im not joking).

And speaking of the files, let’s talk about the leaked ones. I’ve honestly hated them. Though it is cool it is in 4K, like I said, it uses presumably a variable AVC codec, since MediaInfo couldn’t figure out if it was constant or variable, and I think anyone who processed it went with the lowest average the software can allow with the max of 50mbps, resulting in…well, you already knew, but also:

• Despite the raw optical audio being cool to have, the Dolby Surround mix from the LD is from the Deluxe CAV release, meaning there was an audio edit to fit with the side transitions between sides 1 and 2. Also, you can still faintly hear the final seconds of the THX “Tex” trailer at the end.
• The DTS LD mix is only heard on the front channels, and just like the Dolby Surround LD mix, you can still hear the Deep Note fading out.
• The sound effects-only track has a mix-up with the audio. In any 5.1 format, every channel in order is supposed to be (L, R, C, LFE, Ls, Rs), but this audio stream has the ordering of (L, C, R, Ls, Rs, LFE), making it very uncomfortable for your 5.1 system.
• And finally, the commentary track, though firstly, the channels are correct, it’s weirdly in 5.1, meaning you can hear nothing except the front channels, and secondly, it’s the version used since the UTB DVD, meaning that references to LaserDisc were cut out.

So, even though I already did make my own reconstruction of the original theatrical mix (if you weren’t aware), I did my own takes on the other audio tracks for my digital theatrical reconstruction, and they were way better than the leaked files, including the Dolby Surround mix, where I used the standard CLV disc as the main source and added patches from the Deluxe CAV release and even used the original unedited 1996 commentary from the latter release, captured by noogai3. Oh, and for the SFX track, it was a direct copy from the UTB DVD, not a FLAC conversion by KBJ Comix.

So for this preservation, I was thinking of doing a much better version than what was officially put out, especially since, like I said, it was cancelled. Though, the first thing I need to do is to find the raw scans of it since they would’ve been processed from either FFV1, ProRes, or AVI uncompressed, meaning it would contain the best video possible, regrade it using the LUT I made, and sync it with the UTB DVD, along with patches from the LD footage I would record. Though it seems they were lost in time now for obvious reasons to my theory.

This preservation will use the same audio and subtitle tracks from v2 of my digital theatrical reconstruction, with 2 exclusive tracks, including the raw optical audio, and a 4.0 (LCRS) upmix of that optical audio using SurCode for Dolby Pro Logic II, just for anyone who wanted to recreate the nostalgia of their cinemas still using Dolby SR back when the film came out.

stretch009 said:

The 1080p 35mm scan has a AVC bitrate of 25mbps FWIW.

Thanks. I’ve been told the errors weren’t the case as well. In fact, I just received the version.

ForestGWolfy said:

Interestingly the full 4K 35mm scan of Toy Story from the UK was leaked last month and is much higher in quality than those DVD releases.

I would say I would agree with you, but there are parts where it felt like Trist just borderline used a variable AVC bitrate from the max of 50mbps to 1bps, hence blocky parts like the flash in the Disney logo or the movement of the Pizza Planet truck as it arrives at the restaurant.

Speaking of which, someone and I were thinking of reviving the project, though I already did do the color grading to match the LD (as it was close to the opening night screening bootleg), though since his friends did approve it, and I haven’t received a word from him about the potential updates, I still need to wait for the OT mods to come in and see if they are okay with. Though because of the crappy variable bitrate, and since I think Trist really wants to stay away from the project, I don’t know if I will ever get the raw scans so I can do a perfect render of it, so a regrade and the UTB sync of the leaked 4K 35mm scan is for the best.

HAttackontheBun said:

Sambarker04 said:

UPDATE (06/08/2025): Got the Italian DVD. Nothing to explain as well since there are no Italian subtitles on it, so the dub is the only option.

I think the 2005 Italian/German DVD does have Italian subtitles, but I don’t know if it’s timed to the said DVD’s remix?

Very interesting, though I should mention that the subtitling style is very different in the later release. Here’s the 2000 Dutch/Belgian DVD and the 2005 UK DVD as an example of French subtitles:

Though I want this preservation to based on the UTB, LaserDisc and various 2000 international DVD releases as well (since this was supposed to bring back how Toy Story was first shown audibly and visually before 2005; despite a couple errors in the 2000 re-render), so unfortunately, especially with the subtitle styling, I will not include the Italian subtitles. Sorry.

UPDATE (06/08/2025): Got the Italian DVD. Nothing to explain as well since there are no Italian subtitles on it, so the dub is the only option.

HAttackontheBun said:

Sambarker04 said:

UPDATE (31/07/2025): I decided to do something that no fan preservationists have done before…Dolby Headphone! So one day while I was messing around with my Windows XP VM and PowerDVD 7, I was like, “Hey, what if I make a Dolby Headphone track? No one, I think, has ever done it before.” In fact, Dolby Headphone has been used in only a couple films I can remember, that being the Ultimate Edition DVD of T2, and Michael Bay’s Pearl Harbor. But since Dolby Headphone is so amazing on my own headphones, I felt like it would be fun to have a go. But because you can’t export a 5.1 audio file to a Dolby Headphone mix file, I decided to do my own take. I first set the mode to DH2 (conference room model) since DH3 (movie theater model) felt way too ringy with its simulated reverb, especially since DH2 sounds just right from my ears, then playbacked through a lossy DTS stream of my theatrical reconstruction since this is the best I can do since PowerDVD seems to have problems playing a DTS-HD or MLP stream since it’s expecting the DTS-HD stream to be a “.cpt” file, but the DTS-HD Master Audio Suite can only use “.cpt” for the DVD DTS stream, and even if I change the extension from “.dtshd” to “.cpt”, it sadly doesn’t work on PowerDVD. And for the “.mlp” stream, I think it only supports playing stereo MLP streams, since the MLP stream I tried along with previous tries gives me an unknown error in the software, so the 1.5Mbps lossy DTS stream is the best I can do, especially since it works fine. I would then record the entire film using a direct PC audio capture with Audacity, synced it with the UTB DVD, then saved it to a 16-bit FLAC file.

I’m just wondering what settings did you use for Dolby Headphone?

Like I said, DH2. DH1 (small room), DH2 (conference room) and DH3 (movie theater) models are the only settings used in the program.

bimawen said:

sorry about the double post, not sure how that happened. what are your thoughts on the new toy story film by the way?

Haven’t seen it, though I did hear from some people it’s just a needless cash grab, which shows.

UPDATE (05/08/2025): Finally got the Spanish DVD and it works this time. Nothing to explain there since I already included the Castilian Spanish and Portugal Portuguese dubs and subtitles into the .mtxcfg file, ready to be multiplexed once I got everything I can find and easily import to the UK.