Sambarker04

Not an update, but I decided to give you something interesting about the description change. You noticed that the Russian dub used is the “original 2004 version”, and that was because…well let me tell you. Remember when Funimation would redub Dragon Ball Z’s earlier episodes to match the characters’ voices from the Buu arc on the infamous Orange Box sets? Well, Disney did the exact same thing when they did a redub of the Russian dub of Toy Story 1 and 2 in 2009 for the 3D re-release to match the name change from Базз Светик (Buzz Light) to Базз Лайтер (I bet you know what that means) when they dubbed the third film to Russian. I can guess they did that to prevent the similarities with Bud Light (guess where Woody name called Buzz from?) after someone Russian at Disney Character Voices pointed out the obvious. So, as a result, the 2009 re-dub would have the actors come in and re-record lines that contain ‘Светик‘ to replace it with ‘Лайтер’, though Andy and Sid’s lines affected by it were re-recorded by different children, though Konstantin Yefimov (who came in to re-dub Ivan Chaban’s affected lines) did return as Andy as a child in the third film, so that’s interesting. So yeah, just a fun fact to anyone curious. 😉

Ngl everytime I spot another blocky moment I didn’t miss, I had to go through the entire editing and rendering process again, which, to be honest, is very jarring since the rendering takes a painstakingly long time, but hopefully there won’t be anymore noticeable blockier moments.

UPDATE (28/08/25): Turns out I missed one blocky moment so I had to redo the project and re-render it. Don’t worry. We’re almost there!

Sambarker04 said:

UPDATE (27/08/25): YKW, I decided to check the blockier moments myself. I went ahead and compared the 1080p version with the 4K version using FFBitrateViewer, and yeah, there’s more than a couple, so the blockier parts were patched using the 1080p version. Also, there’s missing frames will be patched using a new LD capture I made. As I’m posting this, I’ve already completed the 4K render and is still doing a 1080p render, just so I can use it for a review later. If the review was passed flawlessly, I’ll finally release it once I finally grabbed the French Anthologie set with the Egyptian Arabic dub (keep in mind that the Standard Arabic dubs were done after the Blu-ray release). The reason why I decided to do a review now is because I want to make sure there aren’t any slip ups in editing. This was to due to the latest version of VEGAS Pro struggling to handle the correct frames on a H.264 video, meaning that there will be chances of duplicate frames between the 1080p and 4K versions, in fact, my LD capture has interlace artifacts in it, though thankfully there aren’t any parts with the artifacts on the patches, so it won’t be noticeable.

Okay, I’ve checked everything to make sure it’s flawless. And plot twist…IT WAS!!! So once I finally complete my quest to find the dubs I can get access to, it will finally be released, so stay tuned.

UPDATE (27/08/25): YKW, I decided to check the blockier moments myself. I went ahead and compared the 1080p version with the 4K version using FFBitrateViewer, and yeah, there’s more than a couple, so the blockier parts were patched using the 1080p version. Also, there’s missing frames will be patched using a new LD capture I made. As I’m posting this, I’ve already completed the 4K render and is still doing a 1080p render, just so I can use it for a review later. If the review was passed flawlessly, I’ll finally release it once I finally grabbed the French Anthologie set with the Egyptian Arabic dub (keep in mind that the Standard Arabic dubs were done after the Blu-ray release). The reason why I decided to do a review now is because I want to make sure there aren’t any slip ups in editing. This was to due to the latest version of VEGAS Pro struggling to handle the correct frames on a H.264 video, meaning that there will be chances of duplicate frames between the 1080p and 4K versions, in fact, my LD capture has interlace artifacts in it, though thankfully there aren’t any parts with the artifacts on the patches, so it won’t be noticeable.

stretch009 said:

Sambarker04 said:

stretch009 said:

Sambarker04 said:

Actually, rather than wait, maybe you guys can help me find moments where the film gets blocky too. I highly recommend you compare the 1080p and 4K versions together so you can see the difference in change of bitrate, hence the blockiness. It’s also easier for me to start working once I arrive back home on Tuesday.

From what I read the 4K is a “completely botched encoding” and the 1080p is way better. Knowing that I don’t know why you would want to use the 4K at all.

Though 4K was known to be a double of 1080p, so hopefully anyone might barely tell the difference.

With AVC 4K should be four times the bitrate of 1080p.

I recall that the 4K version’s bitrate is 50mbps while the 1080p version is only 25mbps. Though in this project I was thinking of using HEVC as it was way better and hopefully doesn’t contain any blockiness when re-encoding it.

stretch009 said:

Sambarker04 said:

Actually, rather than wait, maybe you guys can help me find moments where the film gets blocky too. I highly recommend you compare the 1080p and 4K versions together so you can see the difference in change of bitrate, hence the blockiness. It’s also easier for me to start working once I arrive back home on Tuesday.

From what I read the 4K is a “completely botched encoding” and the 1080p is way better. Knowing that I don’t know why you would want to use the 4K at all.

There are only a couple moments I know where the bitrate goes from 50mbps to 192bps such as the Disney logo and when the Pizza Planet truck returns to its place. Though I do remember other unnoticeable parts with the bitrate changing to something like 10mbps like at 36:49-36:51 (though this is what I remember when I compared the two) so yeah, if no one is interested in doing it, that’s honestly fine. Though 4K was known to be a double of 1080p, so hopefully anyone might barely tell the difference.

Actually, rather than wait, maybe you guys can help me find moments where the film gets blocky too. I highly recommend you compare the 1080p and 4K versions together so you can see the difference in change of bitrate, hence the blockiness. It’s also easier for me to start working once I arrive back home on Tuesday.

UPDATE (21/08/25): I was thinking of maybe going through the blocky moments myself since I still haven’t got a word on a list yet, now I’m not being impatient and all, but I was just confused that I haven’t got a response yet. Though yeah, speaking of the guy, I would admit that I could just use the leaked sources since access to the raw sources is borderline impossible. In fact, I’m pretty sure I started to act like a broken record now, but since I’m in Rhodes now and will be back by late Tuesday night, there will be plenty of time for me to get responses before I get back and start working.

Ah okay

Sambarker04 said:

UPDATE (12/08/25): Honestly, I don’t know if I may want to cancel the project since I am honestly stuck, especially to pay respect to Tristan, but the raw scans are the only way to get the best quality possible since the 4K version’s bitrate is problematic. Though I do want to grab an update though since I’m not a fan of the LUT I did. Turns out I think there’s some color and luminance bleeding in there, and it seems every reel is of a different film stock, meaning the red fade is easily more distracting when using the same LUT based on reel 1, and since the color grading in my second attempt feels extremely hard for me, I felt like something who knows how to handle color grading very well to help me with it to match the LD and to also make sure there’s no noticeable color and luminance bleeding on it. I will PM the leaked print and my recorded LD footage for reference so you can message me the LUTs of all 5 reels so I can use them. Also, I was thinking that I want to merge the 1080p with the 4K footage to patch out parts that has a very low bitrate, though I was able to spot two, some parts of it are really confusing as it could be either from the 1080p version, or the 4K version. I just think this project can be too much for me, hence the drama and all, but honestly, I need to see if there will be any either fate or hope to it as time goes on, though I don’t know if there is a high chance it will be cancelled.

Okay, tbf, considering that people went off topic lately, it might just got harder for me. But you know, the big quote when you’re like this is “never give up”, right? So hopefully, it will be done. Though, of course, like I said, I’m still waiting for those blocky moments to be tracked so I can start finally working on this revival.

Someone is actually selling Cinema DTS discs of the film, though the first disc is of the domestic release, so it would be perfect to include it in this preservation too. (https://www.ebay.com/itm/374920289284)

UPDATE (18/08/2025): This one is late though, since I forgot to say this, but a few days ago, a now deleted user PM’d me on my DeviantArt account that the leaked scan was also available on X as well, and it is the crappy 4K encode, though people were thankfully only to point out 2 moments where the encode is blocky, but, just to make sure, I’m still waiting for my private friend to help me find other blocky moments too. I just want to let you guys know about that and to spread the word to never leak fan preservations to the public.

Also, like I said, anything said unrelated to this topic must be said through PM, NOT here. This was to furthur prevent any more drama. Thanks

DylanDrew said:

Your discord friend who gave you permission to work on a scan that’s not theirs?

Well, we’re focusing on making a better version of the leaked scans. This is what I meant.

DylanDrew said:

You’re asking for trists pro res files. It’ll never be on topic

I know, especially since it would obviously be impossible to have those now, so I have to use both leaked sources, but I have to wait for my Discord friend to come back and respond.

stretch009 said:

It would be nice if this thread got back on topic again.

Same here. i want this to be a revival, not another case of drama again.

UPDATE (16/08/25): This is going to be the last update before I leave for Rhodes on Tuesday. I managed to grab the second Chinese bootleg DVD, though it is the same as the previous, but it looks to have zero reauthoring aside from shrinking to single layer. Thankfully, the subtitles seem to have zero issues since on the first, there would seem to be a small square in on blank spaces between the number of subtitles appearing. This wasn’t the case in the second bootleg, though the size of it is still the same, so I think it was Disney’s doing.

UPDATE (13/08/25) Just decided to do the English LD-G now with the Japanese Deluxe LD. Just like the CC, it will be in ASS format.

UPDATE (12/08/25): I have done the new LUTs, turns out maybe reel 2 is the only one from a different stock since the rest do look the same when commparing the regrade of the first LUT to the LD.

DylanDrew said:

wrap it up buddy you not getting shit

Thanks. Speaking of happy news…

UPDATE (12/08/25): To be fair, I’m just not in a good mood last night since this is the most difficult project I might have done, so hopefully I’ll find a way to get this completed. It’s just how I’m not allow to mention my collaborator’s name again, and maybe because EPho3nix was trolling me or hopefully he was just joking around, as you can see from the last few posts. We’ll see if it will go on or not.

UPDATE (12/08/25): Finally got the Japanese Deluxe CAV LaserDisc and one of the Chinese bootleg DVDs. The bootleg DVD does seem to be a reauthoring of the R3 DVD, though only the Taiwanese Mandarin and Cantonese dubs are included, as the Thai and Indonesian languages are only subtitled, so the only bet to find the Thai dub (since the Indonesian dub was done after the Blu-ray release) was to find a Thai VCD release. Speaking of subtitles, at least I think subtitles do look like they were made by the original authoring team themselves, especially since the Indonesian subtitles do look close to the NTSC English subtitles, though they were enlarged and I honestly don’t know if this was the bootleggers’ doing or Disney. And for the Japanese Deluxe LD, The analog tracks on that LD was only the Japanese dub of the film on the left, and the commentary track dubbed in the same language (with the English version of the film playing over it.). However, once I’ve done capturing the audio for the commentary, i noticed there are clicks and pops in the audio. I think my ESI U24XL seem to be working fine still, though I don’t know if it is showing signs the discs are rotting or not, or maybe the laser is starting to die out, I don’t know.

Change of plan. I’ll see if I can do the LUTs myself. I already done the first reel, so I’ll do the rest.

UPDATE (12/08/25): Honestly, I don’t know if I may want to cancel the project since I am honestly stuck, especially to pay respect to Tristan, but the raw scans are the only way to get the best quality possible since the 4K version’s bitrate is problematic. Though I do want to grab an update though since I’m not a fan of the LUT I did. Turns out I think there’s some color and luminance bleeding in there, and it seems every reel is of a different film stock, meaning the red fade is easily more distracting when using the same LUT based on reel 1, and since the color grading in my second attempt feels extremely hard for me, I felt like something who knows how to handle color grading very well to help me with it to match the LD and to also make sure there’s no noticeable color and luminance bleeding on it. I will PM the leaked print and my recorded LD footage for reference so you can message me the LUTs of all 5 reels so I can use them. Also, I was thinking that I want to merge the 1080p with the 4K footage to patch out parts that has a very low bitrate, though I was able to spot two, some parts of it are really confusing as it could be either from the 1080p version, or the 4K version. I just think this project can be too much for me, hence the drama and all, but honestly, I need to see if there will be any either fate or hope to it as time goes on, though I don’t know if there is a high chance it will be cancelled.

EPho3nix said:

You ain’t getting the raw scan LMFAO

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