Sambarker04

Can’t wait!!! 😄

oakiearkie said:

Any update on this?

I’m hoping Trist is busy rn and maybe we might get an announcement for him at same point

I do honestly wonder what the file(s) might look like once distribution is ready. Either it would be a single video file with the splice patched with the BD or LD footage or a series of uncompressed/lossless raw scans of each reel for us to compile together?

HAttackontheBun said:

Sambarker04 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

TristAndShout64 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

TristAndShout64 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

I was wondering, what condition is this print in?

It was shockingly clean! The condition is extremely nice overall, with just one splice on the third reel. I think people will be really happy with how the final scan turns out. 😃

How so? I mean the color’s a bit faded.

It’s actually a lot less faded than the pictures made it out to be! Check the image links I replied to Peter with on the last page, you’ll see they’re pretty close to how the colors presumably should look. There’s a tiny bit of fade, but it’ll be pretty easy to color-correct.

That reminds me, Considering that there is one splice in one of the reels, I have a Blu-Ray copy of this movie and I can try to match the visuals to the film print to fill that in.

Or…you can use the NTSC LaserDiscs of the film to recreate the official aesthetic of 35mm print that Disney used in their pre-2000 masters. Especially since according to the Deluxe CAV Edition LD, many of the raw digital frames done after rendering were instantly transferred over to positive 35mm, since digitally sourced films weren’t a thing back in 1995.

I don’t have a laserdisc player.

Maybe anyone who has a laserdisc player, any NTSC LD copy of the film, and a capture card, alongside perfect NTSC calibration from the software could help.

HAttackontheBun said:

TristAndShout64 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

TristAndShout64 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

I was wondering, what condition is this print in?

It was shockingly clean! The condition is extremely nice overall, with just one splice on the third reel. I think people will be really happy with how the final scan turns out. 😃

How so? I mean the color’s a bit faded.

It’s actually a lot less faded than the pictures made it out to be! Check the image links I replied to Peter with on the last page, you’ll see they’re pretty close to how the colors presumably should look. There’s a tiny bit of fade, but it’ll be pretty easy to color-correct.

That reminds me, Considering that there is one splice in one of the reels, I have a Blu-Ray copy of this movie and I can try to match the visuals to the film print to fill that in.

Or…you can use the NTSC LaserDiscs of the film to recreate the official aesthetic of 35mm print that Disney used in their pre-2000 masters. Especially since according to the Deluxe CAV Edition LD, many of the raw digital frames done after rendering were instantly transferred over to positive 35mm, since digitally sourced films weren’t a thing back in 1995.

Also, considering that this is a print from Australia, I wonder if it contains a Dolby Digital track on the print, as well as maybe the Roger Rabbit short “Rollercoaster Rabbit”, as with the case on international theatrical releases of the film, including the UK.

HAttackontheBun said:

Is there going to be an open matte version of this scan?

I recall this film was originally animated at 1.66:1 for European theaters. However, by the time the film came out on LaserDisc, John Lasseter wanted to preserve the film by cropping it to his preferred ratio of 1.77:1. To me, that honestly sucks, considering that ever since the LaserDisc release of The Lion King, Disney would preserve their animated films from the originally animated 1.66:1 ratio, and yet Lasseter think showing the film in true 16:9 is really similar to what DreamWorks did to Shrek.

Roobyoo said:

Does anyone still has the trailer from the first post with the cinema 5.1 DTS sound and could re-upload it?

Same here. I would just love to know what it looks like.

Same here. I would love to see how he was able to preserve this LD. If anyone either still has the link or has the files, please PM me. Thanks

Yes, you read the title, this preservation was for an official 4:3 pan and scan version of the 2005 Magic Roundabout film that was originally made for the rare VHS release of the film in the UK, until Prooptiki and Central Partnership accidentally used this version for their Greek and Russian DVD releases of the film respectively.

The video contained in this preservation is remuxed from the Russian DVD release, as the Greek release has part of the picture cut out, along with syncing it to match the timing of the French Blu-ray master. The audios included in this were the right and rear channels timing fix of the English audio mix on the French Blu-ray, converted from DTS-HD MA to AC3, the official stereo mix of the fullscreen version heard in both the UK VHS and Greek DVD release, where the center channel was given a stereo filter, making it unlistenable, especially when played on mono equipment, and the 5.1 remix of the stereo mix from the Russian DVD release, complete with added ambience sounds. It also includes English SDH subtitles I’ve converted from the subtitle track of the UK DVD release to SRT.

As always, remember to private DM me if you want to see it.

Screencaps:
https://ibb.co/wRcvTdt
https://ibb.co/ZXzNxKr
https://ibb.co/hYYL2Rd
https://ibb.co/fkYTVxX

I actually found the similarities on the Dolby TrueHD Atmos track on the UHD BD, so I’m pretty sure you are listening to the Dolby Atmos remix.

So basically, the purpose of this preservation was to help provide the right timing for each channel for the film considering that the R, Ls and Rs channels were a split second apart from the L, C and LFE channels. Not only did this apply to the DVD release, but it also applies to the French Blu-ray release as well (it might apply to the theatrical 35mm prints too if i can understand the origins of this issue). As I can recall, this mistake didn’t apply to both the French and Korean dubs. So just for my boredom, I decided to fix the timing of the channels I took from an lossless DTS-HD track of the English dub taken from the French Blu-ray release that I own converted to FLAC and proceed to fix the timing using VEGAS Pro 14. I would even grab the LFE track from the French dub considering that there is no LFE effect there, however I still have to cut and combine it together with the English dub considering that the French dub features major changes to the music used including most of the songs used in the movie and cutting out parts of Mark Thomas’ score. I would then render it to a W64 file since VEGAS Pro couldn’t let you render WAV and FLAC files longer than the film’s length, especially since it couldn’t let you render in 5.1 surround and then finally convert it to FLAC.

So yeah, feel free to use it for the best experience, especially with headphones. It might be perfectly synced with the BD rips circulating on TPB (the one where it displays the French credits). Always (as usual) remember to PM me so I can give you the link. I’ll be using WeTransfer considering that it gives you limits for you to download the link. Also, don’t forget to support the official release (a.k.a. have the film either on DVD or imported the French Blu-ray) to use this preservation. In case if you have any issues with it. Please let me know.

On the subject of The Magic Roundabout, maybe in the future I might try to recreate the 2K master of the Korean dub since there are a lot of additions there such as translated lyrics through subtitles and additional distributor credits in case I feel like it so stay tuned to that.

(UODATE 27/1/23) I’ve decided to slightly time the surround channels again since I might have a feeling that this film was actually mixed in 6.1 surround while listening to the rear channels and notice how some of the sound effects sound like mono, despite the Dolby Digital logo appearing in the end credits. We don’t know either that the people who did the sound mixing for this film hasn’t confirmed it.

If you want it in surround sound, the 2011 Blu-ray set has the 1997 French 5.1 mix superimposed with the 2004 DVD mix. However, the French laserdiscs can only handle stereo.