I have seen clips of both a legitimately dubbed Spanish version as well as a much-later-subtitled Spanish version. But I have been looking for a copy of the full Spanish dubbed version for some time now. I know it was at least shown in Mexico.
--SKot
MattMahdi said:
Just the Holiday Special.
I was almost tempted to buy "Song of the South", but only because it's something that *Disney* will never release. (And they might not release the SWHS, but at least it's available all over the place.)
There's a thread over in the non-Star Wars preservations for "Song of the South" you might want to check out if you haven't. There's been at least a couple different fan preservations from laserdisc, and people have been doing some work here to create the best possible version. It's been a while since I checked, so I'm not sure where they are at with that.
--SKot
Hmm...I still see this kind of stuff at sci-fi conventions, although it's hard to believe anyone actually shells out 20 bucks for these things nowadays.
At least they weren't selling any copies of Deleted Magic, Return of the Ewok or any of the Jambe Davdar documentaries, right?
--SKot
That is unequivocally exciting!!
Can't wait to see what happens next.
--SKot
MattMahdi said:
Star Wars Insider issue 144 (October 2013) has the single-page entry:
"YOU'RE BARRED! The Star Wars Holiday Special Cantina's Barflys Revealed" by Leland Y. Chee
It's a landscape picture of the Cantina patrons, nineteen of them numbered and identified. Not necessarily exciting, and certainly not a reason for buying the magazine, but a fun moment nonetheless. Sadly my subscription is digital... the Nook has it as page 28, but it also shows it as a right-hand page. They can't both be right.
[Hypothetically, if someone did a hi-res scan, and happened to send me a PM....]
Hmm, interesting...I will have to check this issue out!
One of the first things I had to do when creating the SWHS website was identify all of the Ackmena Cantina aliens and put names to them. I made an entry for every single one in the Characters section, with any backstory or details I could give:
http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/characters.htm
I tried to use only established information, and write the details based on that, without making additional things up. If the creature didn't have a name, I tried to give it one of the early crew names. It will be interesting to see if any of that stuck.
A shame they didn't contact me when they wrote the article. I could probably have given some input.
--SKot
Poita No Return?
--SKot
I can't grab the video using my usual methods. I'm hoping somebody else can...
--SKot
Yes, this is excellent...I wish I could be there for the screening!
It's funny, it seems LFL is a little more lax on conventions in Europe. I did a presentation on the Holiday Special at Jedi-Con 2004 in Germany, officially approved by LFL for this official LFL event. Yet, when I tried to propose the same, updated panel for Celebration 4 in L.A. a couple years later there was much hemming and hawing before they finally told me it had been denied. We also were also unable to officially get any Deleted Scenes footage shown at C4 during the panel with the Deleted Scenes actors (which was remedied by unofficially showing MoveAlong's "Behind the Magic" preservation DVD!). I feel like the same might have happened if you'd proposed to show the restored Parbot documentary at a Celebration in the States - here, it seems to be more about toeing the party line.
Of course with Disney in the picture now, it's hard to say how things might change...for better or for worse?
--SKot
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
poita said:
But is there a HR PuffnStuff forum?
Google it, there's like 10 of them.
Oddly enough, there's no Star Wars Holiday Special forum.
Maybe there should be...
--SKot
poita said:
35mm negative, interpositive, print. Gates are available for 16mm and Vistavision at added cost.
But not 8mm, I assume? :)
--SKot
pittrek said:
darth_ender said:
Regarding the actual 12 minute reel, I hope it contains the deleted portion from Luke and Biggs in Tosche Station where Biggs says, "Third mate Biggs Darklighter at your service," and says he's going to serve on the Rand Ecliptic. I have evidence that this was filmed and not just part of the novelization, and it looks like the officially released version has a pretty obvious cut where that would go.
Yes, the scene was definitely shot. A picture of this scene (where Luke is saluting to Biggs) was released somewhere - the 2004 DVD maybe ?
That photo was posted on Hyperspace (and is unfortunately no longer available to anyone at all - thanks sw.com!), and showed Luke making a mocking salute to Biggs inside the garage at Tosche Station. However, it's not a 100% guarantee that the scene was shot...it could have been an outtake or just some clowning around on set. I'd like to think it's that cut bit, though.
--SKot
adywan said:
I've been speaking to the guy who has the full 12 minute footage. He is going to upload the full version soon. He originally posted this to youtube as a teaser, which is the reason for all the fast forwarding.
This is excellent news. I'm hoping he's posting it in high quality somewhere...
--SKot
poita said:
I'm not sure how to go about that SKot, but I am definitely open to it :)
If you come to Oz, you are more than welcome to come chat all things film and Star Wars. By school I'm guessing you mean University, or you have a very young wife ;P
My partner is Canadian and she refers to her Uni work as school which always amuses the locals.
I'm on the hunt for a 2nd hand 10K upgrade, and a 16mm gate for it, but I'll get the thing here and working first! It will be an imposing addition to the man-cave, maybe I should order one of these decals for it: http://technabob.com/blog/2010/10/08/hal-9000-macbook-decal/
Yeah, my wife is younger than me...but not THAT young. ;)
Not that I know the first thing about these scanners, but looking at some documents for the Imagica Imager3000V (which I think is a similar system) seems to indicate you also need an SGI workstation to go with it, I assume to render out the images. Will you have to purchase something like that as well? I see they're available on eBay for around $200, which is not bad in the grand scheme of things...but it's yet another expense.
--SKot
I don't think it would be unreasonable to set up a method of accepting donations to help offset the cost of your investment, poita. Considering the potential return for the community, I'd certainly consider helping out a little if possible.
Are you planning to do the 10K upgrade on that thing? That's additional cost to consider, of course, so I imagine it would be down the road a bit...but donations could help there as well.
I may wind up moving to Australia in the not-too-distant future (Melbourne, actually - my wife's already there for school). If I ever find myself in your area, it would be neat to see that scanner in action.
--SKot
pufnstuf said:
As a matter of fact I picked one up a few years ago on the D&M fan forum... I'm not 100% it's the actual fan club tape or perhaps a first generation dub, but the quality is very good. Thought there were plenty of good copies out there already. I can MySpleen it if people are interested.
Definitely, I second that! Somehow that one has escaped decent preservation, and even the best copies I've seen have been lacking. The community would definitely benefit from a nice transfer of that copy.
I think the same goes for the Bob Hope Christmas Special with the Star Wars spoof...that one was even more scarce at one point, and I still haven't seen a very clear copy to this day.
--SKot
SilverWook said:
Turns out a decent quality clip was uploaded to Youtube last year, but it's inexplicably cropped to 16:9...
Bah...why do people do that? It's terribly annoying and destructive. And it makes the viewing area too tight most of the time, if not cutting off people's heads entirely.
Incidentally, Marie Osmond made a very hot Princess Leia!
People taped seemingly random shows for the same reason they use Tivo now. To watch a broadcast at a later time. When I was blind buying random stacks of old Betamax tapes, I would find all sorts of things.
...which once seen, could not be unseen?
--SKot
pufnstuf said:
SilverWook said:
Wish I had been perusing video tape reels sooner. I might have seen this in time...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-broadcasts-70s-DONNY-MARIE-BATTLESTAR-GALACTICA-early-home-taping-/290920659305?pt=US_Movies_Other_Formats&hash=item43bc38f969
I don't think a decent version of the Donny and Marie Star Wars episode has ever popped up, has it?
The Donny and Marie fan club used to sell VHS episodes of some of their shows back in the 80s... One of the ones sold was the Star Wars episode. Quality is pretty good.
Do you know anyone who has one of these tapes? 'Cause if so, this is something just screaming for a preservation...
--SKot
poita said:
I did. Trying to find a shipping company now, any help appreciated!
You, sir, are the people's hero!
--SKot
Coincidentally, I jumped on here to make a new post just for this same footage. I've contacted the guy who put it up, and though he would love to help out he says the footage was not his but from a torrent. He's checking on it to see if he can procure any info on this.
This footage is priceless and amazing. It's a crying shame it's been fast-forwarded through during the recording. I'd give my eye teeth to get hold of the raw version for the Cut Scenes community (and everyone else!).
--SKot
D_E, would you mind posting some screenshots of the Episode II bootleg you picked up? I'd like to see if it's better or worse that what I've run across.
--SKot
Wish you guys had been there...the 70mm (yeah, he decided to upconvert!) 3D widescreen film print was magnificent, and the mono soundtrack sounded amazing through the car window-mounted speakers at the Austin drive-in. I had to sell my autographed Ackmena photo to get there, but it was totally worth it.
I understand the next project will be the Donny & Marie Star Wars Special Special Edition in IMAX. You can count me in!
--SKot
As far as I know, there was no source for the theatrical release of AOTC outside of the theatrical release itself*, hence bootleg copies continuing to be important. Unfortunately, I've yet to see a decent bootleg of that film turn up anywhere. TPM had a very rare Thai-subtitled bootleg turn up some time after its release in theaters that was an actual telecine from a 35mm print (it even had a splice point with some missing frames where the film had broken). I tried hard to find something similar for AOTC, but no luck. Doesn't mean it's not out there somewhere anyway.
--SKot
* I would love for someone (Pittrek?) to prove me wrong on this.
Treadwell said:
The writer of Sally Forth has a blog, and he collected all of his SWHS references in this post:
http://mediumlarge.wordpress.com/2012/11/20/
(the last one is a blog-only joke, not a real Sally Forth. The real 2012 SWHS ref is not in the post.)
Wow, way more than I'd seen before. And that didn't even include the one from 2005. I wonder how far they actually go back?
Apparently Ted Forth is also an honorary OT-er, based on his unhappiness with the 2011 revisions to the trilogy...
--SKot
MattMahdi said:
MattMahdi said:
Found it when I searched for star wars holiday special documentary, hoping to see a sign of something that Bruce Vilanch mentioned in an interview. Some people were shooting a documentary... that apparently went nowhere. (The interview was on "Feast of Fun" in July 2010.)
I was just pondering this question: Bruce Vilanch mentioned a documentary that some people were doing, and that their fundamental problem was that the footage they'd need -- the SWHS itself -- wasn't available, so people would be watching a documentary about something that they wouldn't be able to actually sit down and watch.
Does anyone here know anything more about this documentary? That interview is the only mention of it I've heard, and it sounds like a fascinating project and well worth seeing. I know I'd invest to make sure it happened, and probably others here, but I can't find other mention anywhere.
I'm not sure if it's the same one, but there's a guy named Jacob Adams who has written me occasionally for years about a documentary he's been trying to do. I haven't seen any footage, but a while back I believe he was supposed to send me a preview of it. Don't know what happened with that.
MattMahdi said:
Today's "Sally Forth" has a reflection on the SWHS:
http://www.oregonlive.com/comics-kingdom/?feature_id=Sally_Forth&feature_date=2012-11-23
Best idea of all is the thought that the family could watch the DVD of Ted giving a commentary on the Special while the Special itself played on a TV behind him.
I know that there was one other time the strip referenced the Special. Have there been more?
(Also, I can't find any sites that will allow me to zoom it and then save the image. Anyone see one?)
The only other time I know of that Sally Forth did a reference was the December 3, 2005 strip, where they sit down to watch it after getting all their Christmas preparations done (and sadly, the .gif I have of that one is even smaller than the current one). The writer must be a big fan of the show!
--SKot
Brooks said:
AntcuFaalb said:
lpd said:
Has everyone forgotten that George believes the end of the world is this December.
Does he really believe that rubbish?
No.
But if he did, it would certainly shed new light on his decision to put Star Wars in Disney's hands in 2012, and also make his "I will never make Episodes 7-9" declarations eerily accurate should the apocalypse come...
--SKot