logo Sign In

SKot

User Group
Members
Join date
3-Apr-2005
Last activity
12-May-2025
Posts
935
Web Site
http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com

Post History

Post
#326884
Topic
The 2008 '<strong>The Clone Wars</strong>' animated theatrical movie - a general discussion thread
Time

I actually expect Lucas to one day do animation set in the OT time.  I think it's just a matter of time before he does... provided the Clone Wars doesn't tank so badly that he never wants to do any more after that.

I always wished that they would have done more cartoons in the exactly same way they did the original Nelvana cartoon in the Holiday Special, with the original actors voicing the characters where possible.  If Lucas did this now with current digital animation, it could be like a dream come true for me.  True, he could do some horrible things with the much-loved characters from the OT, but would it really be worse than what the comic books and novels have done?  I just ignore what I don't like.  Even the Marvel comics had some really bad tales... and some really good ones.

--SKot 

Post
#324682
Topic
Preserving the...<em>cringe</em>...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released)
Time
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

SKot said:

Working on it now.  Not sure if I'll be able to get the original tape, but I will certainly be able to get a copy of the DVD transfer from it.  And I'll do the best I can to see if there's a way to get raw, uncompressed video.

 

I'm confused... if you get a copy of the DVD transfer, it's by definition NOT raw uncompressed video, right?  Or do you mean that there had been a transfer to some uncompressed digital medium (such as a mini-DV tape)?

 

I don't know it there was ever an uncompressed transfer, but I'm going to see if that's the case.  If not, I'm trying to find out if it's possible to do one.  That may require getting hold of the original tape, if the owner is willing.

In the meantime I'm getting a copy of the DVD so I can compare it to the KCCI version and see how it holds up.  At the very least, it's good to have two nice copies in case there are glitches (or station IDs!) you want to work around.

--SKot

Post
#324559
Topic
What about the Remastered Star Trek or E.T.
Time

Two things about the digital changes to the original series Star Trek that made it okay in my eyes:

1. Before any changes were ever done, the series was made available in good quality on DVD.

2. They made the changes with the utmost reverence to the original source material.

That's it.  Actually, all they had to do was make the original available in acceptable quality on DVD (which they did) to make me happy.  So at this point, they can do whatever they want with the series, and I'm okay with that since I already have the unmodified series in my hands.  In fact, I love what they've done, and I plan to buy the digitally enhanced series eventually when they get it out on Blu-ray.

If only George Lucas would have done the same, there would have been no real complaints from me.  The solution is so simple: put the original trilogy out in a high-quality anamorphic format, and then do what you want with the films from there on out.

--SKot

Post
#324554
Topic
Just finished watching the '04 DVD version of Star Wars
Time
Baronlando said:

Remastered for dvd quality?! What do you think this is, Xanadu? 

 

Speaking of Xanadu, I just bought the latest DVD version of Xanadu.  Nicely remastered picture, anamorphic widescreen... looks awesome.  A craptastic film that looks really great on a widescreen TV.

The original (GOUT) Star Wars, on the other hand, which is non-anamorphic and taken from a laserdisc master, looks like crap on my widescreen monitor after I blow it up to fit the screen.  And that's where the problem lies for me.

--SKot

Post
#324531
Topic
Preserving the...<em>cringe</em>...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released)
Time
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Tobar said:

Hey everyone, I think I might have found a new copy of the Holiday Special.

 

Looks nice!  I hope you follow-up on it.  I've got a good VHS deck with tracking control and a variety of TBCs and would be willing to transfer it.  But I wouldn't be surprised if someone here on the forum is even better-equipped, VHS-wise.

 

Working on it now.  Not sure if I'll be able to get the original tape, but I will certainly be able to get a copy of the DVD transfer from it.  And I'll do the best I can to see if there's a way to get raw, uncompressed video.

--SKot

Post
#323931
Topic
Preserving the...<em>cringe</em>...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released)
Time
Ziz said:

I just got one from someone over at FanEdit.org who said it's better than the KCCI, but I'm in the middle of moving to a new apt right now so give me a week or so to have a chance to compare them and see what's up.  A quick scan thru it shows promise but I want to look for specific parts to compare one to the other.

Use the comparison page (link given in a post above) to see which one it is.  Let us know what you find out...

--SKot

Post
#323921
Topic
Info: [16mm] - Star Wars Trailer _(Black and White)<em>1977</em>
Time

Awesome.  It may not seem that awesome, but it's definitely a really cool item.  Even the official sources have so far not mentioned this (to my knowledge).  Hopefully there's audio to go with it.

I wonder if maybe the background clouds are animated, at least?  They would look very much the same throughout the frames even if they were.

--SKot

Post
#323891
Topic
Preserving the...<em>cringe</em>...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released)
Time
Tobar said:

Hey everyone, I think I might have found a new copy of the Holiday Special. Back around February I was browsing around on Youtube and found this pristine scene (for youtube) from the Holiday Special. I'm no expert on the various copies floating around out there but it's the cleanest copy I've ever seen. So I contacted the uploader asking about where he had gotten his copy and he told me the following:

One that I found myself! The guy recorded it at SP mode on a VHS tape, if you believe it. It's too bad he didn't leave the commercials in, but other than that it's complete.

Rick

 

I told him that you guys might be interested in it and he was completely open to being contacted about it. What do you guys think?

 I think this looks like a winner.  The picture and color is very sharp.  It may even be better than the KCCI copy, or at least as good, and worth looking into for preservation's sake.  At the very least, it's a broadcast version I've never run across before.  Does this guy Rick own the original tape now, or did he just make a copy from the guy who does?

--SKot

Post
#323412
Topic
Help Wanted: A question about the ROTJ trailers on the Definitive Collection LD set...
Time
Mielr said:

I've noticed that the Dr. Gonzo trailers are of better quality than the Rowman disc's- better color, less compression artifacts.

How do they fare on the Editdroid extras discs?

 

I don't have the Gonzo or Rowman discs to compare with, but EditDroid always seemed to make sure to have the best quality video on everything they put out.  Most of the transferred material they did themselves, and did it very well.  I would expect their version to look the best, but correct me if I'm wrong.

--SKot

Post
#323005
Topic
Info: EXCITING news - lost &quot;METROPOLIS&quot; scenes FOUND!!!!!!!!!
Time
JohnGreenArt said:

SKot said:

Now try to imagine in the year 2027 (80 years from 1977), this headline:

"EXCITING news: lost "STAR WARS" original uncut negative FOUND!!!!!!!!!"

 

--SKot

You sure your math is right? ;D

 

Oops!  That should be 2057.

Obviously it's been a long time since I attempted to do math.  Nowadays we have computers for that sort of thing.  ;)

--SKot

Post
#322906
Topic
Info: EXCITING news - lost &quot;METROPOLIS&quot; scenes FOUND!!!!!!!!!
Time

I saw this news on thedigitalbits earlier today, and I think this is one of the most amazing pieces of news in cinema history!  All my life the only Metropolis I've ever been able to see has been incomplete, and now this treasure of historical significance, worthy of excavation by Indiana Jones, has been uncovered after 80 years of being thought lost forever.  This is just awesome.

It would also be amazingly cool if other lost prints (like the complete version of London After Midnight, for instance) turned up like this during our lifetime.

Now try to imagine in the year 2027 (80 years from 1977), this headline:

"EXCITING news: lost "STAR WARS" original uncut negative FOUND!!!!!!!!!"

Yeah, right.  We can only dream...  ;)

--SKot

Post
#322904
Topic
Info: another 16mm print of SW on eBay
Time
negative1 said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

It looks like Negative1 decided to outbid me.  Oh well.  Now he just has to pay more because of it.

 oh shoot!!!!

 

i forget i had left in a bid in an automated system a long time ago (in a galaxy, far far away), and didn't remove it!!!!

sorry!!!!!!!!!!!

 

ok, how about this, now we can 'play around' with this print,

and then decide what to do with 'empire strikes back'..

 

deal?

 

ok,.............................(reminds himself to not put in automatic bids)..

 

actually i thought it would go a lot higher than that!

 

So did I... very nice price on that.  Excellent work!  I can't wait to see what this trailer has on it.  I've never heard of it, and with the early "pointed W" version of the SW logo, it could contain some really cool stuff.

The only 35mm film reel I own is a trailer from the SE of ROTJ.  Never been played; still has the sticker sealing it.  Too bad it's not the original edition one with the sandstorm footage...

--SKot

Post
#322894
Topic
Info: another 16mm print of SW on eBay
Time
digitalfreaknyc said:

It looks like Negative1 decided to outbid me.  Oh well.  Now he just has to pay more because of it.

 

Looks like he got it, for the low price of $26.65.  Not bad!

Not sure what the point of outbidding you was, though.  Maybe he didn't know it was you by your eBay ID?

As long as one of us got it and is willing to share, all is good.

--SKot

Post
#322627
Topic
Info: another 16mm print of SW on eBay
Time
Sluggo said:

I think SKot and -1 are talking about the Empire reel. 

 

As far as the 35mm trailer for Star Wars, I was thinking about bidding, but if you are, dfnyc, I'll refrain as to not drive up the price.  Let me know if you want some money to help pay for the thing.  I'm happy to help.

 

Yes, dfnyc... go for it on the 35mm trailer, and I hope you win.  I'm very curious about that thing.

I'm also willing to contribute if you need extra $$ to help win it.

--SKot

Post
#322595
Topic
Star Wars film versions and best DVD sources
Time
negative1 said:

ok,

was there any differences between the 35mm version of 'empire strikes back', (maybe a mono mix? or was it

stereo only?) ...

 

and the laserdisc versions?(any of them)

 

or as mentioned in the beginning

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Empire Strikes Back (original theatrical version)
Best source: official 2006 OUT DVD
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

are they all the same?

 

i will be able to provide some information hopefully once we get ahold of

that copy, later

-1

 

There are different sound mixes from different video releases over the years.  Also, there are 70mm and 35mm sound mixes for ESB that differ.

I've thought about expanding my list here to include the different sound mixes as well as visual differences.  The list would be significantly longer and more complicated that way, of course.  But it might be worth it.

--SKot

Post
#322593
Topic
Post/Submit/Send buttons missing
Time
Erikstormtrooper said:

Hey Jay,

Any updates on this? My buttons still seem to be missing.

Thanks!

 

I too have been missing any post/submit/send buttons for a little while now.  At first I couldn't figure out a way to post at all, or even send private messages or notify the administrators(!) of the issue.  Then I figured out if I clicked off the check mark in the "show your signature" box and immediately hit enter, my post would go.

Btw: I am stuck on IE6 as well, on both my work and home computers for the time being.

--SKot

EDIT: Yikes!  Triple post due to the method I use to post not working so well this time... sorry!

Post
#322588
Topic
What was that cool website with all the rare photos?
Time
Darth Neo said:

Hi Guyz,

that's because you need to wait for my (admin) approval. The reason I have to do this is because I get a lot of spam from russian and american sites. I get a lot of applications per day but most are weird names like "ffghghjd" or something to do with porn or cars or medicins. If for some reason you don't get approved just send me an email with a desired username and password and I will set up an account for you.

If anyone has any other options on how to deal with these spammers please let me know.

 Mielr / see you auntie / SKot: I found your applications and approved them ............ so enjoy

Cheers,

 

Darth Neo

 

Thanks, Darth Neo!  Looking forward to swapping some nice images with you, particularly Holiday Special-related.

--SKot

Post
#322511
Topic
Info: another 16mm print of SW on eBay
Time
negative1 said:

SKot,

i'm glad you answered, and can see we're on the same page,

yeah, you jumped to conclusions (i've been on this board for several years from way back , never posted though)....just like i jumped

to conclusions about you..

 

let's put it all behind now...and work together for a common cause..

 

i would like a truce, so we can just continue working on what we care for.

(and no i've never seen any of your projects, sorry, i'm still new at actually getting any of these releases,

as i just now have gotten my own high speed internet connection, and can finally download some of these releases

i keep hearing about)..

 

ok, hopefully we can move onto the fun part of actually getting the material, and having

something to play with..

 

later

-1

 

'may the force be with you always'

 

I'm with you there.  Let's do it!

The 35mm project looks like one of the most exciting things to come our way for a long time.  I will be following its career with great interest.

Let's hope it is as good as the seller says it is.

--SKot

Post
#322479
Topic
Info: another 16mm print of SW on eBay
Time
negative1 said:

SKot said:

Ever notice that the people who seem to have the largest amount of throwaway money for things like this (and who always win these auctions) are never the ones who are willing to share their treasures with the rest of us?
Curse the spoiled rich hoarders.
--SKot


just a question, if i had won, i would have shared it..what does
that say? (and yes, i won other expensive auctions before)..

again, if another copy comes up, maybe i'll try even harder...
but why should you expect to get it for free? because you 'deserve' it?

what happens when you spend your own large amount of $$$$ on
something? will you share it with us???? or will you just disappear
and keep it to yourself.....

yeah, i don't have too much to back up here, but i've gotten a ton
of free 'rare' copies (8mm, mono soundtrack, vinyl versions) from
people on this board...and they spend their time (2 years in adywans
case), money, and effort to share what they got...

maybe you should be cursing the greedy 'freeloaders' that don't put
up any money, and expect someone else to carry the load...

later
-1

 

Okay, I've been unable to post lately or I would have replied to this much sooner...

negative1, you have jumped to a conclusion here that's WAY off the mark.  What I'm saying here is that it seems like almost every time we find an item like this, someone who isn't one of *US* (and who usually isn't even sympathetic to our cause) always wins the auction for a ridiculous amount of money.  And then whenever they are contacted by one of *US* from this forum about collaborating, invariably they either ignore it or reply that they are not interested in sharing their loot.

You, negative1, are one of *US* (or so I can assume even though you're relatively new, considering that you post here and seem to be sympathetic to our cause).  If you're got a lot of money to spend and you manage to win one of these high-ticket items on eBay that we keep hoping someone here will get their hands on, MORE POWER TO YOU!!  Because we assume that you will put every effort into sharing or collaborating for preservation's sake.  That's what we're all about here.

It's the people who throw away large amounts of money (more than I or many of us on this forum can afford) on rare items like these film prints and then sit on them with absolutely no interest in trying to share or preserve them that I curse.  They have the money and the means, but they'd rather hoard it all to themselves.  For some reason these kinds of people never seem to join forums like this, maybe because it's not in their nature.

For my own part, I spend a HUGE amount of my own personal time and money trying to make rare things or information available for other people.  It's what I am driven to do.  Have you ever seen the complete Return Of The Ewok on YouTube or elsewhere online?  That was my project.  Before the work that OCP and I put into that, nobody was able to see the entire film unless they got lucky enough to have Warwick Davis personally show it to them.  I do a number of different websites devoted to sharing rare information and material, a couple of which are Star Wars-related (starwarsholidayspecial.com and my Star Wars cut scenes site).  I've been on these forums for a good while now, and have contributed to a number of projects either directly or indirectly.  I would appreciate it if you did not question my integrity and dedication to the cause here without researching it first.

You have a lot of enthusiasm and willingness to put your money where your mouth is.  That is definitely something we need.  And if you want help from the community here to help offset the cost of a film reel or other item relevant to our cause, count me in!  Great things have been achieved this way, and this is the kind of thing I live for.  Let's work together and put all our efforts into doing what the official sources can't do or won't do.

--SKot