RowMan

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Post: #62175
Topic: The infamous chest grope
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/62175/action/topic#62175
Time: 1-Sep-2004 8:12 AM

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Originally posted by: The Dark Lord My favorite is in ESB after luke kicks vader off the platform in the carbonite chamber, he deactivates his lightsaber and jumps down...onto a trampoline. his upper half bobs back up onto the screen...

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Originally posted by: Faid That trampoline blooper is nonsense...

Well, it's not really a trampoline. When Luke jumps off the platform, the sound effect of him landing comes in later than it should to make the platform seem higher that it is. Unfortunately, the shot is too long which allows Mark Hamill to stand back up after his landing and reveal the actual height of the platform.

Post: #62081
Topic: A question of simple curiosity..... (OT releases)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/62081/action/topic#62081
Time: 31-Aug-2004 11:43 AM

A very nice factory pressed, dual layered set of the 1997 SE Trilogy has already been produced. I bought one and I liked it so much that I was willing to give up my SE laserdiscs when I needed cash. I can't post a link per what webmaster Jay said here...

1997 SE officially bootleg fodder?

...but anyone can PM me for more info.

Post: #61839
Topic: What Did Vader say?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/61839/action/topic#61839
Time: 29-Aug-2004 6:58 PM

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Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
There used to be a THX laserdisc available if you bought a THX home cinema set up. It showed a longer clip of the A&E sequence (on the Tantive). I saw it at a convention about 10 years ago. I can't remember if there was anymore SW stuff on there though. Anybody know of this disc?

This was a THX laserdisc laserdisc called, "WOW!" It included a short documentary about sound editing called, "Soundtrack." There is the scene where Vader is choking one of the rebels for information. Here's Prowse's dialog...

Vader: (lifting up rebel) This ship carries the crest of Ahdra (?)! Was any of the royal family on board? (throws rebel to floor) Start tearing this ship apart until you find those tapes! Find the passengers of this vessel. I want them alive!

So some dialog was changed after the original readings.

The doc mainly focused on demontrating sound editing techniques for Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, but there is another brief Star Wars scene with the original on-set sound of the droids walking through the halls of the Tantive while it's being attacked. You can barely make out Anthony Daniels saying his lines under the costume. In this scene his dialog remained the same.

Post: #61621
Topic: Question to the DVD-R authors in the house
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/61621/action/topic#61621
Time: 27-Aug-2004 7:08 PM

I've used DVD Shrink to try and take out the gap. Unfortunately, the editing is only accurate in half a second increments and when the file is put back together, there is a pause at the edit point so I just left it alone.

Post: #61425
Topic: pictures of dual layer set
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/61425/action/topic#61425
Time: 26-Aug-2004 3:41 PM

Everyone,

I was one of the first to review the dual layered set a while ago. While my review is less technical, it pretty much matches TR47's review. The dual layered set's quality doesn't come anywhere near the TR47 or the Anamorphic sets. The actual manufacturers of the dual layered set had a chance to create what we have all been waiting for, but they just blew it. Particularly annoying was the interlacing problem. Stick with the TR47 or Anamorphic for now until a DIFFERENT dual layered set surfaces.

Post: #60923
Topic: Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/60923/action/topic#60923
Time: 23-Aug-2004 3:49 PM

moorebid,

Be sure to activate your private messaging so that you can better communicate with other users of this board. It's normally off by default.

Post: #60075
Topic: OT bootleg DVD reviews
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/60075/action/topic#60075
Time: 17-Aug-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by: j
Thanks RowMan!

Do you know the best way to get TR47 versions.

Are there any live torrents of them.

I knew you'd ask that. Unfortunately, I have no experience with torrents (I'm still on dial-up). I got my TR47 discs directly from him.

Post: #60033
Topic: Question about Definitive Collection LD's
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/60033/action/topic#60033
Time: 17-Aug-2004 7:30 AM

I have the corrected pressing with the welding footage. The imprinted number on Disc 2 Side 3 for TESB is B41B02486. The catalog numer for my set is 0693-84.

Hope this helps.

Post: #60030
Topic: OT bootleg DVD reviews
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/60030/action/topic#60030
Time: 17-Aug-2004 7:05 AM

Yes. You have the anamorphic version. The TR47 version has slightly better picture quality (though not anamorphic) and way better sound quality (sans the commentary). Squeezing in the extra stuff takes away from the overall quality. If you can do without the bells and whistles, the TR47 set is definitely the way to go.

Post: #59175
Topic: Star Wars DVD Covers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59175/action/topic#59175
Time: 11-Aug-2004 1:52 PM

If you have the version with the main menu that reads: "STAR WARS TRILOGY - THE DEFINITIVE COLLECTION" along with pictures of George Lucas, Dennis Muren, and Ben Burtt, the Lapti Nek video is located on the second page of the FEATURETTES section.

Post: #59206
Topic: Reminder: Bootlegs of commercially available DVDs (such as the upcoming trilogy release) are NOT PERMITTED
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59206/action/topic#59206
Time: 11-Aug-2004 10:01 AM

Can TR47 get an "AMEN"?!

AMEN!

(I just HAD to respond to that.)

Post: #59204
Topic: 1997 SE officially bootleg fodder?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59204/action/topic#59204
Time: 11-Aug-2004 9:56 AM

I will always prefer the originals, but since I tend to be a completist about such things, I also own the 1997 SEs and will buy the 2004 versions (eventually previously viewed so the big GL won't see my money for them).

Currently, the unofficial Five Star Edition DVDs of the 1997 SE are adequate enough for me. They're not perfect, but they are factory pressed and dual-layered. When the time comes that the kinks in home-burned DVD9s get worked out, I would be interested in another laserdisc to DVD transfer if the quality could be improved over the Five Star version. Whoever did the Five Star version still did an excellent job, though. Far superior to earlier asian bootleg versions of the OT and still much better than the most recent Definitive Collection dual-layered release.

Post: #59195
Topic: Reminder: Bootlegs of commercially available DVDs (such as the upcoming trilogy release) are NOT PERMITTED
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59195/action/topic#59195
Time: 11-Aug-2004 9:27 AM

OK, guys. This is fascinating reading, but please read the thread topic again. How about starting a new one for this debate?

Post: #58892
Topic: Reminder: Bootlegs of commercially available DVDs (such as the upcoming trilogy release) are NOT PERMITTED
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58892/action/topic#58892
Time: 9-Aug-2004 6:10 PM

I think the general consensus of those here who own the OT bootlegs is that we would buy still them if they were ever officially released.

By the way, since we all know that what is coming out on DVD are the 2004 versions, does that mean we can still discuss making copies/ bootlegs of the 1997 versions?

Post: #58843
Topic: The Original Trilogy - Laser Disc Conversion Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58843/action/topic#58843
Time: 9-Aug-2004 4:16 PM

Unfortunately, the only way to extract the laserdisc info is to capture it. I have seen the laserdisc players with the serial ports you speak of in school and in arcade video games of the 80's. Those ports were mainly used to control the functionality of the player itself.

Post: #58743
Topic: Best Bootleg DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58743/action/topic#58743
Time: 9-Aug-2004 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by: Banthapoodoo

Easter egg!? How do I find them?

BTW, I think the anamorphic version looks really good. Though I would of liked the audio in it's original form, the DD 2.0 sounds good too.

From the menu screen of the Anamorphic versions, move the cursor to AUDIO OPTIONS (but do not press ENTER), then move one "click" RIGHT, then one "click" UP. A silhouette of Vader will appear. Press ENTER.

By the way, the Five-Star bootleg is excellent. It's dual layered and factory pressed, but is the 1997 Special Edition. The Dual-Layer Definitive Edition may be factory pressed D9 DVDs, but they in no way equal the quality of the TR47, Anamorphic, and Five-Star versions.

Post: #58727
Topic: Best Bootleg DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58727/action/topic#58727
Time: 9-Aug-2004 8:30 AM

I don't mind having the extra stuff on a separate disc(s) for the sake of quality. To me, the TR47 set represents the closest quality currently possible to the Definitive Collection laserdiscs on a single layer DVD. The anamorphic version is a close second, but sacrifices a lot of audio quality and a bit of video quality in order to include commentary, menus, and an easter egg on the same discs. Plus, the original laserdiscs weren't anamorphic anyway. Still, it's nice to have both.

Post: #58602
Topic: Special Edition on DVD (1997 versions)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58602/action/topic#58602
Time: 8-Aug-2004 8:13 AM

There is a great dual-layered set of the SEs called "The Five Star Collection" available for $25 to $35. DON'T get it on eBay. You'll most likely pay too much.

It's been reviewed here...

http://www.prillaman.net/starwarsdvdreview-bootleg2.html

...and here...

http://www.pulpfilm.com/reviews/swbootlegs.html

I have sources for them, but will not post links because they also sell other bootlegs. PM me for info.

Post: #58417
Topic: Does anyone have this mammoth release!?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58417/action/topic#58417
Time: 6-Aug-2004 7:35 PM

The extra material has all been released before. It just was packaged all together in this set.

The scripts were at one time available in book form. The documentaries have been released on VHS and laserdisc. The trailers, interviews, and behind the scenes footage appears on the Definitive Collection laserdisc. The only thing they couldn't get on The Executor Box Set from the laserdiscs was the 400+ still photos. Luckily, all of the Definitive Collection supplemental material is now on DVD thanks to fans on this site.

It is a great looking set, though.

Post: #57798
Topic: Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57798/action/topic#57798
Time: 4-Aug-2004 1:00 PM

Originally posted by: The Dark Lord
...so what i'm wondering is, on the defective definitive collection LD pressing, is there just a delay or is there actually missing footage, and if so how much exactly? that is, does the defective LD match the TR47 or the anamorphic rip of ESB? i recently purchased the definitive laser box set, but i haven't got a player yet to check ESB. i wish i discovered this forum before i purchased, but i figure either version is worth owning...

There are two different releases of the Definitive set. The first accidentally omitted the welding footage. A second release corrected that. The TR47 set used the second release. The bit of black is a mastering error on the DVD only, not the laserdisc. A MINOR flaw at best.

Post: #57799
Topic: DUAL LAYER SET's will hit soon - but be skeptical!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57799/action/topic#57799
Time: 4-Aug-2004 7:07 AM

I think what he's saying is that the picture quality CAN be improved over previous sets, but only with the right equipment, know-how, and once the general compatibility problems with DL get worked out.

Post: #57678
Topic: Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57678/action/topic#57678
Time: 4-Aug-2004 3:57 AM

Actually, the welding footage is on the TR47 version after the 3 seconds of black, but it is NOT on the anamorphic set.

Post: #57673
Topic: DUAL LAYER SET's will hit soon - but be skeptical!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57673/action/topic#57673
Time: 3-Aug-2004 9:46 PM

Whoa, Rik! Thanks for the props. I just call 'em as I see 'em. I just don't want to see people get ripped off by getting any of the asian imports that claim to be the best versions just because they are factory pressed or (more recently) dual-layered. A lot more and better effort has been put into the OT project by people who visit these boards.

Honestly, I don't have super high-end equipment, but I have better than average in order to give a good general review. Also, I've been on the post production end of film and television for most of my adult work history so I kinda know what to look for. It's nice to feel appreciated.

Post: #55482
Topic: I'm thinking lawsuit...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55482/action/topic#55482
Time: 19-Jul-2004 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by: Spyder X

...So just because they made an announcement nine years ago doesn't mean they can advertise the DVD boxset as the Original Star Wars Trilogy without any mention of Special Editions (or Ultimate Editions or whatever) or changes.

True, but having the ad campaign at all is somewhat of an arguement for the fact that they did do something to inform people. Also, I've always taken the term "Original Star Wars Trilogy," when used in advertising, to mean "the first movies in the series to be released in theaters," and not, "the original versions of the first movies to be released in theaters."

Maybe I'm too informed on the issue and can't see it from a "general public" point of view.

Post: #55479
Topic: I'm thinking lawsuit...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55479/action/topic#55479
Time: 19-Jul-2004 8:42 PM

I hate to bring this up, but no one has said anything about it yet. In 1995, there was a HUGE ad campaign claiming that then would be the last time to own the original versions of the Star Wars trilogy. So, they did kinda cover themselves.