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Star Wars 8 Creates ‘New Rules’ For the Franchise

http://screenrant.com/star-wars-8-rian-johnson-adam-driver/

“Adam Driver says writer and director Rian Johnson has created “new rules” for the franchise in Star Wars: Episode VIII – The Last Jedi. And in many ways, The Last Jedi is shaping up to be an unintended response to many of the complaints fans and critics had about The Force Awakens, most of which revolved around the overwhelming similarities between its plot and that of A New Hope.”

I still like the cast they put together. I still like that Lawrence Kasdan wrote the script. I like that Ron Howard is directing. Sounds like the pieces are there to make a great movie. I can’t wait to see it. It’s not how you start, it’s how you finish.

Airports do that to people, wretched hives of scum and villainy.

Disney lawyers > director’s guild lawyers

I’ve heard they don’t taste very good.

Credit them as second unit directors.

Someone must have put a rock in front of him.

Alderaan said:

21 Jump Street was a terrible, terrible movie. One of the worst I’ve ever seen.

What do you like? Complaining?

Maybe they can make a deal for Willow 2 as well.

There is most likely a lot more to the story than we’ve been told.

Alderaan said:

rodneyfaile said:

The point is Kathleen Kennedy has worked on more movie productions as well as having greater success. Perhaps she knows something about movies after all of her experience.

Ah but that wasn’t the point I paraphrased in my post. The article was saying Kathleen Kennedy believes she knows how to “bake the Star Wars cake”. She has never been a part of a good Star Wars movie, and there have been several production screw-ups in the last couple years.

If your point is “she’s successful because her films make the most money” then would you say Michael Bay is also good at what he does? And further, what does it matter to you or I how much money the film makes? In a few years, the film isn’t going to be any more enjoyable or less enjoyable to watch at home because it made $100 million or $500 million at the box office. So what was your point? If you are a Disney shareholder or personally invested money in those films, congrats I guess.

For the record, I agree with Kathleen Kennedy’s decision to part ways with these guys. They were seemingly a very poor fit for a Star Wars movie.

But I also take the side of the directors, that once they were hired, there shouldn’t have been undue micromanagement of THEIR film. It’s a collaborative process, other people, the studio, cast, crew, they are all going to have input and the director(s) need to be able to work with all of these people in a collaborative way, but at some point their vision may become compromised and it’s no longer their film anymore. It sounds like that’s what happened. If Kasdan and Kennedy want to direct the film from the studio, why not just direct it themselves?

All of this could have and should have been solved a long time ago, well before principal photography, in my opinion.

Kathleen Kennedy has been involved with two very well reviewed and financially successful Star Wars movies, and she was a big part of why they were successful. She recognizes what it takes to make a great movie because she has been involved with many great directors on many great movies.

It’s a business. Movies need to make money.

This wasn’t just their movie. Lawrence Kasdan wrote it and he and Kathleen Kennedy had a specific idea of what they wanted. Rian Johnson wrote and directed VIII. That is his movie.

Swazzy said:

Between this and half of Rogue One being reshot, it seems we won’t ever be getting a new Star Wars film with the director’s vision left entact again.

Which, coincidentally, used to be the worst part about Star Wars.

“I had as much creative control on TLJ as I’ve ever had on any of my own movies.”- Rian Johnson via Twitter

Jeebus said:

rodneyfaile said:

Do you honestly think Kathleen Kennedy knows less about making movies than the guys who made 21 Jumpstreet and Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs?

22 Jump Street and The Lego Movie, too; all of which were very successful, so I guess I fail to see your point.

The point is Kathleen Kennedy has worked on more movie productions as well as having greater success. Perhaps she knows something about movies after all of her experience.

Rian Johnson was hired to WRITE and direct VIII. L&M were hired to direct Kasdan’s script so naturally they didn’t have the same amount of freedom. Rian doesn’t seem to be held back and is making his movie. James Gunn and Taikai Waititi have definitely made movies that are very much their own. I guess some people know how to work well with others and some don’t.

Rogue One was saved by bringing in another director and doing extensive reshoots. The result was an amazing movie that got great reviews and ended up #7 on the all time domestic box office list. Kathleen Kennedy is likely saving this movie as well. The other Star Wars movie she produced is #1 on that list and I expect the next one, The Last Jedi, to continue the trend of high grossing and well reviewed movies. I trust her more than L&M. I didn’t want to see 21 Jedi Street.

Do you honestly think Kathleen Kennedy knows less about making movies than the guys who made 21 Jumpstreet and Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs?

In 100 years all movies have been destroyed in the apocalypse but one Nacho Libre. The new world order is built on the wisdom of his words. When you are a man sometimes you wear stretchy pants in your room. Its for fun. - Nacho

In Jaws they add a new scene where Quint meets the shark earlier and steps on its tail.

When Pachino comes out of the restroom in The Godfather I think they should shoot at him first. He could dodge the bullets and then return fire.

Just for reference The Cabinet of Dr Caligari 1920 and The Kid 1921 are almost 100 years old. Both are highly regarded movies and both are available on blu ray.

100 years from now?

I’m positive the entire thing will have been rebooted at least twice by then. I’ll be dead. Until then I’d like to watch the REAL versions.

All the more reason to have a release similar to the Blade Runner Final Cut with all versions, but until someone important enough to be noticed speaks up, I’m afraid it looks like business as usual. Get ready for Greedo shooting first in 4K.

I just thought I would have a conversation with a few people knowledgeable about the subject. I didn’t know it was already talked about and was to never to be brought up again. I thought people here would enjoy talking about it.

Possessed said:

Or perhaps read the threads on all those projects on this site.

That would be a whole lot of reading through irrelevant posts to get the pertinent information.

dahmage said:

rodneyfaile said:

What is Project 4K77 and how is it different from Mike Verta. What is the Silver Screen Edition?

Seeing as you can literally google those questions…

I have, but doesn’t mean I understand exactly what they are talking about. I thought I would ask the opinions of a group most passionate about the subject.