Rob

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Join date: 10-Jun-2005
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Post: #161313
Topic: The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161313/action/topic#161313
Time: 7-Dec-2005 12:25 AM

Thanks for reminding me...communists...let's add that to the list.

Post: #161312
Topic: Christmas Decorations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161312/action/topic#161312
Time: 7-Dec-2005 12:23 AM

Just set up my tree last night, my wife would put it up in October if she had her way.

Post: #161311
Topic: world's oldest gingerbread house and other strange ebay items
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161311/action/topic#161311
Time: 7-Dec-2005 12:22 AM

mmmmmmm

Post: #161310
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161310/action/topic#161310
Time: 7-Dec-2005 12:20 AM

Originally posted by: wadetv
Then the third version will have things like fixed lightsabers and effects (such as a shot of Greedo shooting first that actually looks good).

Please tell me that your joking. Seriously...I need to know. For the love of Pete I hope that your joking.

Post: #161272
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161272/action/topic#161272
Time: 6-Dec-2005 9:41 PM

Originally posted by: Darth Richard
so will the second version have re rotoscoped lightsabers???

No, it wont:

version 1 - raw transfer

version 2 - straight cleanup to remove cue dots, laserdisc sparklies, restore the starfields (remembering we aren't putting any stars back that are not on the laserdisc, just bringing them out), remove the garbage mattes, remove any "film problems" i.e. splices, scratches etc.

Post: #161262
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161262/action/topic#161262
Time: 6-Dec-2005 9:12 PM

Thank God, it is as I previously had thought...the Holy Grail.

Post: #161251
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161251/action/topic#161251
Time: 6-Dec-2005 8:18 PM

They were not that visible in 1977! I never even noticed until I saw the OT mastered with THX. Can they at least be made to look like they did in the theater? If your going to leave them in, your making the assumption that everyone who watches them will have there television calibrated to THX specifications which require dratically lower brightness. That means nobody will be seeing them properly. It amazes me that you would be more distracted by poor rotoscoping than giant ridiculous white blocks around each ship. Are you serious? How the hell can you enjoy the space sequences with these horrid boxes. They have never looked worse than they do on the THX laserdiscs.

Post: #161246
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161246/action/topic#161246
Time: 6-Dec-2005 8:05 PM

That's a very good point. I definitely could not see them when I watched the entire OT at a special event in a local theater in 1992.

Post: #161238
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161238/action/topic#161238
Time: 6-Dec-2005 7:36 PM

For the record I don't want to see any other changes either. These garbage mattes are a totally unique issue, they should not be lumped in with subjective alterations. They are as black and white (literally) and as cut and dry as it gets.

Post: #161233
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161233/action/topic#161233
Time: 6-Dec-2005 7:02 PM

There is no need to get nasty retard. I didn't take a condesending tone with you. Why don't you answer the question, do you prefer that the garbage mattess be left in the straight preservation version and if so why? Regardless of the fact that the dust is unitended, it takes SUBJECTIVE JUDGEMENT to fix it. Once that subjective judgement is applied to a transfer in any way, it should be tempered by common sense. Why would anyone want the garbage mattes left in? In order to finally see a version of this film without the garbage mattes, we will have to remove them ourselves or watch altered versions of X0 which have many other more subjective alterations. The bottom line is that the X0 project has the potential to be the Holy Grail of laserdisc transfers, why would you want the garbage mattes to ruin it's visual quality? They are clearly a very unique problem with the film, why should they not be treated as such? Everyone wants a version of these films with the garbage mattes removed, they are not like the highly debated issues such as the landspeeder blur, poor rotoscoping, blah blah blah. The X0 team is the greatest preservation team ever assembeled. If they don't fix them, they will never be fixed with the technical skill and untempered devotion to the OT that this exceptional team can provide.

Post: #161229
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161229/action/topic#161229
Time: 6-Dec-2005 6:45 PM

So the straight preservation will have colors fixed, dust removed, and starfields restored, but garbage mattes left intact? Can someone please post who wants the garbage mattes left intact and explain to me why the hell you do? It takes NO SUBJECTIVE JUDGEMENT to fix them, they are literally a black and white issue! They are no more subjective than dust removal, in fact they are less subjective. No only are they less subjective, they are far more important in terms of visual enjoyment of the film. I know we can all argue back and forth about stuff like rotoscoping, but is there a single fan who likes the garbage mattes? If there is such a fan, why don't you love the dust and crap as well?

Post: #161216
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161216/action/topic#161216
Time: 6-Dec-2005 6:16 PM

It just seems to me that it would be a HUGE mistake to leave in these garbage mats. We are all purists here, but sometimes common sense has to temper the purist mentality. It's hard to explain, but fixing these mats is just not the same as cleaning up the landspeader blur, enhancing weak rotoscoping etc. Is there a single person who finds the garbage mats endearing? I plead with you to make an exception for the garbage mats. They suck, they suck, they suck. Please for the love of God make an exception for the garbage mats.

preservation has nothing to do with Lucas' 'original vision' it has to do what he originally showed

He has never shown a version of these films without dust dirt and other crap on the film itself. The reason that there are dust specs on the filmstock is due to the fact that the technology to prevent this from happening didn't exist (it still doesn't). We can all look at this common sense wise, however, and decide that they should of course be fixed. How can the same not be true for the garbage mats?

Post: #161209
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161209/action/topic#161209
Time: 6-Dec-2005 6:01 PM

I'm a little confused about the last two posts. I been following X0 since the beginning and I understand the straight preservation vs. cleaned up version. What I don't understand is why anyone would want garbage mats left in the straight preservation version? If you are fixing the starfields, fixing the color, etc. why would the garbage mats be left intact? They are not an intended visual artifact of Lucas' or anyone elses doing. They are quite possibly the most visually distracting part of these films, and it takes no subjective judgment to decide how to fix them. They are either on or off. It's not like cleaning up laser blasts because you feel that the surrounding glow is to intense, that stuff is clearly subjective. From a common sense perspective, cleaning up those garbage mats is no different than restoring the starfields. I hope the criteria for alteration within the straight preservation version does not stop before the garbage mats are fixed, that would be a shame.

Post: #158205
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158205/action/topic#158205
Time: 26-Nov-2005 5:51 PM

If the edges were enhanced anymore they'd cut through the picture tube.

It's ridiculous. If anyone actually prefers EE they can phony the picture up with the sharpness or VM on their tv. For the sake of the rest of us the integrity of the edges should be left alone.

Post: #155252
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/155252/action/topic#155252
Time: 15-Nov-2005 1:23 AM

Just got the new newsletter. You guys are doing one heck of a job. I can't believe how systematically and thoroughly you are continuing to approach these transfers. Can't wait to read the next newsletter. Incredible work!

Post: #151777
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151777/action/topic#151777
Time: 1-Nov-2005 12:22 AM

Zion,
Very cool pic of the raw capture! To you big wigs that probably looks like everyday stuff by now. For the rest of us it is a cool glimpse into what will become Original Trilogy history.

Post: #151505
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151505/action/topic#151505
Time: 31-Oct-2005 12:00 AM

Sorry to go off topic but I just wanted to post this pic to remind everyone why this X0 project is so important. It only took me about five minutes on the phone with Lucas to convince him to put me in the upcoming 2007 Return of the Jedi Super Duper Special Edition with Cheese Blu-Ray dvd. I promise I will never post such nonsense again. Please forgive me.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3695/58wh.png

Post: #150696
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150696/action/topic#150696
Time: 27-Oct-2005 12:46 AM

Thanks for all you have done Laserman. Best of luck to you. We will be anxiously awaiting your return.

Post: #148854
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/148854/action/topic#148854
Time: 19-Oct-2005 1:00 AM

Any news from the big wigs on recent progress? Sorry bug you guys, but I have been itchin' for more updates since that last newsletter with the improvements to the starfields...awesome! I just want to make sure that this is still the hottest thread for X0 info.

Post: #136753
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/136753/action/topic#136753
Time: 6-Sep-2005 12:46 AM

The Holy Grail is exactly what the X0 project will prove to be for a huge number of young fans. I'm sure it will be the best display of the Original Trilogy that I have seen since the early 1990s when my local theater was allowed to play the entire Original Trilogy back to back in order to promote what was then the brand new THX sound mix. That was quite a show.

Post: #134515
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/134515/action/topic#134515
Time: 31-Aug-2005 1:18 AM

I just noticed in codester's last post that he was asking how to donate money given that he is only 13 and can't access paypal. That is damn near the coolest thing that I have ever heard. The Original Trilogy is hard wired into my brain to the degree that I tend to forget that many younger people never got to see the real versions displayed on the big screen. The X0 project is priceless to those fans. All of you guys involved have truley undertaken a noble task, you do God's work my friends.

Post: #133819
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/133819/action/topic#133819
Time: 28-Aug-2005 9:42 PM

Sorry to bother you guys with such a stupid question but what is the E.T.A. on those X0 t-shirts, those things are sweet.

Post: #127944
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127944/action/topic#127944
Time: 5-Aug-2005 6:07 PM

This is probably the most commonly asked (and irritating) question, but is anyone involved with X0 willing to venture a wild ballpark guess as to when this transfer will be completed. Having gotten as far as you guys have what kind of number would you throw out there as an edjucated guess for sh#*ts and giggles. Sorry to ask what is likely the most irritating question to those involved, I just went through the entire XO website and now I am officialy obsessed.

Post: #125243
Topic: <strong>The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125243/action/topic#125243
Time: 24-Jul-2005 7:06 PM

If you adjust the brighntess on your tv seperatley for each version there is no comparison between the two. I use the method that Cowclops proposed: adjust the brightness until there is very little difference between the discs 2:35.1 bar and a bar generated by a dvd player or tv until there is ALMOST no difference. Once that sweet spot is found on version 1.0 most dark areas seem to be black and void of detail (no different than truley black areas). Once the sweet spot is found on version 2.0 those areas still have visible detail (very different than black areas). The color is also greatly improved, this is most evident in very dynamic scenes like the approach to Cloud City, but it can be appreciated in any scene. I have studied version 1.0 to the point of ridiculousness, sometimes agonizing over one bar of brightness by comparing hundreds of shots. This new version has no such issues, one or two bars of brightness is not a huge deal because the picture is so much more detailed. So far I have found that the 2.0 is superior in EVERY way unless you prefer the picture altered from the source in terms of sharpness and contrast.

Post: #125232
Topic: Info Wanted: Your Favorite OT Preservation Project And Why?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125232/action/topic#125232
Time: 24-Jul-2005 5:02 PM

Laserman

I would have taken you up on that suggestion a couple of years ago but my living room is now completely covered in my daughters baby toys. At this point I am lucky that my wife even lets me keep my turntable and my dvd player in there. If she caught me setting up five laserdisc players I am pretty sure that she would kill me in my sleep.