Ripplin

Maybe it's the antibiotics and painkillers going through me to numb my crazy toothache, but I don't get why do you say Ackbar gets shafted.

ImperialFighter said:

HotRod and Ripplin - Yeah, by their very nature, all of these 'edit' threads are always going to be full of 'errors' we never noticed before.

And it's fun to discover them. :) Fortunately, it doesn't ruin the movies for me as it might for some. Haha.

Haha. Yes. He doesn't flail around like a guy in a suit, though.

HotRod said:

after watching Empire 100's of times, I never noticed half the mistakes and errors

Same here. I could probably notice a lot if I really scrutinized them, but I never really have.

I don't like it mostly because it really, really looks like a guy in a suit.

Nice, but um...kinda makes it look like he's made of metal with a glow like that. ;)

Part 1, you mean. ;)

Once again, stellar stuff, vaderios! :D Very fun to look at, and a big help to Ady, I'm sure. He has said many times that he appreciates the visuals to illustrate ideas. They also help tide us over between his long absenses. ;)

Thanks, Tobar! :) Good stuff.

Bingowings said:

But does the audience really need to know?

Nope, and that's probably the way it would've stayed if he hadn't developed a cult following that led them to stick him in ROTJ as a bit of fanservice. The Boba in ESB is the way he should've stayed; mysterious.

^PM'd!!

Since everyone else is chiming in, I may as well have a go:

Comments in Bold

Opening:

1. Consider the more radical re-edits to the entire movie (RotJ: Fan-O-Matic) I haven't gone through that whole thread yet, but yeah, some of them are good for sure.
   
2. Change the opening crawl to something more dramatic than "Luke Skywalker has returned to his home planet of Tatooine in an attempt to rescue his friend Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba The Hutt" Meh, a little rewrite maybe, but the crawls don't bother me.
   
3. Add evidence of construction vehicles working on the Death Star, maybe even as just hints of movement around the incomplete side. I also like this idea, especially the hints part.
   
4. Replace the shot of the Star Destroyer going overhead with a shot of the shuttle coming from the Executor. It doesn't have to be the Executor, but whatever.
   

Tatooine:

1. Remove Boba Fett from the film. I wouldn't mind.
   
2. Change Jawa eyes to match ANH. I don't know how much of a problem this was in the first place, so...?
   
3. "Cantina"-ize Jabba's speech and expressions. Yeah, if he feels like it.
   
4. "Cantina"-ize other aliens in the Palace. Not a lot of opportunity.
5. Make Bib Fortuna's tentacles move occasionally. Not necessary.
   
6. Remove Greedo's dialog from the background noice in Jabba's Palace. YES! That is the height of laziness!
   
7. Remove 3PO's line of "Look, it's Captain Solo and he's still frozen in Carbonite!" Doesn't bother me. 3PO is clueless as to what is going on and tends to make these kinds of comments anyway.
   
8. Cut down on Salacious Crumb's laughter. He's one of the few Muppety creatures I don't mind too much, so I would be happy either way.
   
9. Cut/shorten the Droid Torture scene. Yeah, kinda dumb. Especially when it starts talking.
   
10. Remove Jedi Rocks. Absolutely!
    
11. Remove Fett flirting with the dancer. Yes!
    
12. Restore Lapti Nek. Perhaps go with an instrumental version playing in the background?
    
13. Fix the flipped shots of Fett. Whatever.
14. Change Boushh's dialog to be a more "realistic" language. Yes! That was also very, very lazy.
    
15. Mix up Jabba's minion's reaction to Boushh's thermal detenator so Fett isn't the only one who pulls out his gun. Meh.
    
16. Cut Lando pulling his mask down after he hits his head on the low ceiling. It is kinda corny...
    
17. Remove Lando hitting his head on the low ceiling. I have a feeling Ady will fix this.
    
18. Remove the belch from the creature outside Jabba's Palace. YES PLEASE! Either cut right after it slurps up the thing, or remove entirely.
    
19. Enhance the carbonite thawing process. I'm sure Ady will do this.
    
20. Add Han's restraints when he is unfrozen. Good idea.
    
21. Remove Han's scene with Chewie in the dungeons. Why?!
    
22. Remove Luke using Force Choke on the guards. Agreed. Kinda stupid.
    
23. Add Mara Jade (from the EU) to Jabba's Palace.
    
24. Cut the Rancor Keeper's mourning. My mother would be really disappointed if this was taken out, so I have to say keep it.
    
25. Remove SE Bantha herd. I kinda like it.
    
26. Restore pre-SE Sarlacc. I think he'll be going in a different direction.
    
27. Add more menancing sounds to the SE Sarlacc. Depends on what is done.
    
28. Fix jump cut as R2's panel comes open and the lightsaber pops up. "All jump cuts need fixed."
    
29. Add the knob to the top of the emitter to the saber that comes out of R2. Yep.
    
30. Shorten the amount of time Luke has his hand in the air waiting for his lightsaber. "Reducing the time Luke stands with his hand in the air in this movie would be great." Yeah, I agree. Doesn't exactly show off the Jedi reflexes if he's stading there waiting, waiting...
    
31. "Restore" Luke's lightsaber to the preproduction blue. I like the green, so no.
    
32. Make it so Luke's lightsaber leaves slash marks on Jabba's crew. I'm sure Ady will do something.
    
33. Remove/replace the scream as Fett spirals out of control. Yes, if he stays in.
34. Make it so Han deliberately hits or shoots Fett using shots from later in the movie. I'm just gonna leave these all at 'No Fett.'
35. Make it so Luke beheads Fett. No Fett.
36. Make it so Luke deflects a bolt at Fett which sets off his backpack. No Fett.
37. Fix Fett's jetpack as they come out at the wrong angle currently. No Fett.
38. Have Fett shoot at the Sarlacc as he falls into it. No Fett.
39. Add a shot of Fett crawling/flying out of the Sarlacc. No Fett.
40. Fix it so Luke actually kicks the guard while Fett flies out of control in the background. Might not even be in there in the end, so I dunno.
    
41. Restore Han's "Trust me" line. Yeah, I like it. Or mash up with other line.
    
42. Make it so Luke doesn't have his hand straight up in the air to get shot. Doesn't bother me.
    
43. Remove Luke's hand damage from before he gets shot. I never noticed this, but yes, of course.
    
44. Attempt to restore the deleted Sandstorm scene and remove the ship-to-ship conversation. Would be cool, but won't happen.
    

Dagobah:

1. "Cantina"-ize Yoda. Absolutely.
   
2. Do something about Yoda's obvious rubber hand during his death scene. Could be hard to do.
   
3. Tweak/cut Yoda's disappearance. Could be hard to do. I'm sure he'll do something.
   
4. Recolor the blue Force Ghosts to prevent confusion with blue holograms.  Completely unnecessary.
   
5. No Luke/Leia relation. I've never minded it.
   

Rebel Fleet:

1. Recut Rebel Briefing. Why?
   
2. Shorten/cut the huggy Luke and Co. reunion ("I'm with you too" and on). Wouldn't mind this.
   
3. Different Shuttle Class for Tydyrium. Definately yes. Would make sense, yes. Too fancy a ship for parts.
   
4. Replace/enhance matte painting of Rebel docking bay. Quite a task. I'd be happy either way.
   

Forest Moon of Endor:

1. Add Endor so that the Forest Moon is actually a moon of something. Makes sense.
   
2. Change Ewoks to Wookiees. Impossible.
   
3. Complete removal of Ewoks. No.
   
4. "Cantina"-ize the Ewoks. Could be good.
   
5. Add 3PO's line "I believe they are called... Ewoks" from the Radio Drama. Sounds good.
   
6. Stabilize the speeder bikes during the chase. The whole scene will be smoothened, I'm sure.
   
7. Adjust the scene so it looks like the Scout pushes Luke off of his speeder bike. Not necessary. He knew what he was doing.
   
8. Do something with Leia remembering her mother, her real mother. I'm sure soemthing will be done with this.
   
9. Change Vader's line of "Obi-wan once thought as you do" to "Your mother once thought as you do". Not really necessary. We'll see.
   
10. Cut Teebo's Speeder Bike Adventure. I don't mind it.
    
11. Add more Imperial laser fire as the Ewoks attack. Maybe, but not too much, of course.
    
12. Add AT-AT to ground battle. How?
    
13. Cut Chewie's Tarzan yell. YES! A MILLION TIMES YES!
    
14. Enhance AT-ST explosion that is crushed between the two logs. Yeah, or just remove it entirely?
    
15. Enhance AT-ST explosion that is shot by Chewie's AT-ST. Absolutely.
    
16. Remove Harrison Ford's reflection from safety glass as he runs from the bunker. Can't think of what this is.
    
17. The shield generator explosion is huge and looks like it would probably wipe out everyone in the area. Nah, it's cool.
    

Death Star Attack:

1. Rebel fighters crashing into the DS shield. Yeah, a couple.
   
2. More fighters overall (B-wings and A-wings especially). Yeah, wouldn't mind this.
   
3. Fix garbage spots in "one of the battle shots" where ships were not added. Of course.
   
4. Just before Lando says "Yes, I said closer", some of the background ships don't tilt with the rest of the shot. Ady is very good at noticing things like this. ;)
   
5. Remove green matte boxes around ships. Of course.
   
6. Remove/replace some of the copy/paste capital ships. I'm sure he'll do something.
   
7. Add more laser fire as the capital ships should be pounding on one another (a la the RotS opening). Yeah, that would be good!
   
8. Add shots of Rebel capital ships attacking the surface of the DS (storyboard) Could work...
   
9. Better end to the Executor. Yeah, that big blast of fire is cheesy.
   
10. Add shots of the gunner stations on the DS (from ANH). Not necessary. It would stand out too much as a copy/paste operation.
    
11. Redub the Rebel pilot line: "Copy, Gold Leader". Meh.
    
12. Kill Lando, blow up the Falcon. Justify Han's feeling like he's "never going to see her again." Maybe. We'll have to see how Ady feels about the storyline.
    
13. Remove ring from DS explosion. We'll probably get a whole new explosion.
    

Death Star Interior - Luke/Vader Duel:

1. Replace/enhance cardboard troopers during the Emperor's arrival. Meh.
   
2. Replace the Emperor's advisers with Nemoidians. Oh, please...
   
3. Fix the Emperor's "slugs". Meh.
   
4. Move the exterior battle closer to the Throne Room window as it should be (a la the RotS opening). "Closer, but not too close."
   
5. Remove/soften the more obvious lightsaber blade shadows. Yeah, I'm sure he will.
   
6. Fix large black matte that covers half the screen when Vader is kicked down the stars. Didn't know there was one.
   
7. Fix Vader's blade coming out the wrong end of his saber as he throws it to cut the catwalk. Don't remember hearing about this. Ha!
   
8. Remove Luke's lightsaber from Vader's hand while Luke is hiding. Yeah...
   
9. Edit Vader's dialog to hiding Luke to remove some cheesy lines. I like them.
   
10. Add Luke pulling his lightsaber out of Vader's hand after he is done hiding. Would be cool if the scene gets altered.
    
11. Add Sith eyes while Luke is beating Vader. No! Stupid!
    
12. Cut some of Luke's angry hits on Vader while he's down. No, it's just right.
    
13. Add more Sith Lightning. No.
    
14. Tighten up Vader's hesitation to save Luke from the Emperor. Nah...
    
15. Add Qui Gon voiceover to Vader's hesitation to imply that Qui Gon passes his secrets of Jedi Ghosthood to Anakin. Nonsense.
    
16. Add flashbacks to Vader's hesitation of Padme, his mother, Qui Gon, etc. No.
    
17. Fix saber on/off issues. He'll do it right.
    
18. Restore Sebastian Shaw's eyebrows to the unmasking scene. I don't mind that fix. It makes sense.
    
19. Fix the transition from Sebastian Shaw's face to the bald cap he wears. Does it need fixing? I can't remember.
    

Ending:

1. Fix Luke's lazy eye as he looks at the funeral pyre. Huh?
   
2. Add Leia viewing the funeral pyre. Pointless.
   
3. Remove SE celebrations. Mmmmmmaybe...
   
4. Restore pre-2004 buildings to the background of the Coruscant celebration. I can't thinkof this one.
   
5. Remove the "Weesa free!" line from the Naboo celebration. Yes.
   
6. Restore Yub Nub. I like the new song.
   
7. Restore Sebastian Shaw as Anakin's Force Ghost. Yes.
   
8. Attempt to morph Shaw and Christensen into the Anakin Force Ghost. No way.
   
9. Add other Jedi from the prequels appearing next to Obi-wan, Yoda, and Anakin. Nonsense.
   

Monroville, you really should take the time to read through (or at least skim through, skipping boring bits) the whole ANH:R thread. Lots of fascinating things there. :) You may not even know about some of the ridiculous things that happened to Adywan in his making that edit.

Nice stuff, vaderios. I like how it looks less cartoony. :)

I think it might look a little less puppety by leaving it as is, but maybe slowing it down a tad more and maybe showing some dust/debris/whatever flying out around its mouth as it slams shut. The scene has never bothered me, but I know Ady will do something to it in the usual subtle, logical way. :)

Josh said:

darthmunky said:

 

Also, why do people dislike the ring in planet/DS explosions?

A little cliched me thinks.

Yeah... It was cool in Star Trek VI, though!

So you're proposing that the space slug have stalactites and stalagmites inside it, all they way down its 'throat'? Boy, I dunno about that... I'm sure Ady will do something with the slug (I think mentioned way back that he may resort to making a new puppet?), but this is just getting weirder and weirder. No offense, as weird can be very good, but in this case, I dunno. Some of those teeth look like they'd fall apart if it took even one bite of anything. ;)

Nice. :) The last one is especially different. The red hue made sense with all that lava.

^Yeah, I'm not exactly crazy about it either. Especially the goofy uvula. It's like they were trying to insert a music video into the movie.

Matticon said:

IF...the shield generator explosion is improved

I was thinking about that the other day. Find any good new explosion footage, Ady?

bkev said:

This is not a "LET'S DO IT BECAUSE WE CAN!" edit.

Right, and Adywan has stated this himself many times. :) There were a couple of moments in ANH:R that were sort of 'because we can,' but for the most part, the changes are subtle and do not detract from the films.

TheBoost said:

MIXED REACTION
The Hyperspace tunnel and blue-tint.

MOSTLY DIDN'T CARE FOR
The electro-needle torture thing.

I'm surprised about the mixed reaction (one of my favorite things about the entire edit!) and not at all surprised about the 'mostly didn't care for' (I didn't care for it either).

I will be sending out another DVD-9 of the movie to someone who basically has no clue that this world of fanedits exists. I'm also sendinf Deleted Magic, JD's two, ADM's Spoofs and a few more. I think he'll love 'em. :)

Tobar said:

I just worry that if it's tampered with too much in very obvious ways that it could be ruined. We don't want that do we?

No, and that's why a lot of the changes that seem really big end up being more subtle in the end. Ady usually finds a good balance.

Jeyl said:

Well, does Mos Eisley really need to be scaled up and have a lot more activity going on? It went from being just a "space port" in the unaltered versions to a freaking city where a lot of interesting stuff goes on with the enhancements! If such a place like this exists and it's labeled as being just a "space port", why is this planet being generalized as desolate, barren and no fun? In the original version of Star Wars, it's not hard to see why Luke would want to leave this planet, but now with the Special Editions, it's just BURSTING with activity!

To me, what this could mean is that even though they [just because they could] added a ton of people to Mos Eisley, maybe it's still the only place within a 500 mile radius with anything interesting going on. It is still a dusty, bland place with probably not much to do other than drink or buy machine parts. They can jazz it up all they want, but it still looks boring. Haha. And it doesn't change the fact that the planet is a giant desert. Plus, Luke is growing up and wants to stretch his legs. Hard to do when all you see is sand and buildings that look like they grew out of the sand.

Sounds fun. You say it's just an idea, but have you at least toyed with the idea of actually doing it?