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#49502
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The Phantom Edit - a general discussion thread...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/49502/action/topic#49502
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
Wow!

The space battle scene in The Phantom Edit really made Anakin more mature.

I just wish the picture and sound were better than a used VHS.


I only was able to use my old VHS copy that I got at a SCIFI convention back in 2000 - I also downloaded the original VCD version but I thought that my VHS capture looked like the better of the two. I have since re-captured the VHS with a SVHS so the colors came out better but it just looks a BIT better that the one I posted as a Torrent. I have also converted it as an Anamorphic widescreen DVD jsut to join up with the other Anamorphic versions

I have also heard of a BETTER DVD sourced version of this film that the "Phantom Editor" released shortly AFTER the official DVD came out - THIS version allegedly has commentary from the "Phantom Editor" BUT I have nevre actually seen or know anyone who has seen it either so it'll have to remain an urban-legend until I see it!

RiK

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#47465
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/47465/action/topic#47465
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Originally posted by: petrob
digitalfreaknyc is right! Buying "El Cheapo" discs to save a few bucks is one thing. But for archiving purposes it's definitely worth it to pay extra for the quality a good brand name will provide. You want your movies to last forever, so stick to tried and tested brands. Personally, I swear only by Verbatim. Excellent lifetime durability and not expensive at all but still more expensive than the "no label" type. Believe me, it's worth it!


I've been using these DVD's (or the like) and giving them to family members for about three years now and I have NEVER had a DVDr fail on me except for scuffs and scratches.

SURE they use some lower cost materials but just by buying and using name brand media does not prevent scratches or a 4 year old from running around the house with your DVD's screaming - look at the shiny DVD mommy!

I've always handle my DVD's like they were gold regardless of how much I pay (or how fast my son is ) and it's paid off as I have some of the very first CDr's from 6 years ago and DVDr's from 3 years ago that work just fine. SO I feel it's really in how you handle them not the brand.

I only use actual Hard-Drives for archiving purposes as they are way more reliable that burnable media sure it may be worth it to pay extra for the quality a good brand name will provide BUT the truth is most of these BRAND named DVD's when scanned with DVDinfoPRO you can see that most of the DVDr come from the very same factories as the el cheapos.

Rik


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#47281
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/47281/action/topic#47281
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Originally posted by: TR47
Hey all,
Given the less than amicable reception to the sales of my set, and the fact I found a supplier of blanks for cheaper, I am lowering my price down to $25 shipped for the 5 disc set and $5 for additional discs, effective tomorrow. I don't expect this to change anyone's opinion of my actions but I thought an update was warranted nonetheless.


oh please.

a different supplier? It's called Best Buy. I buy 25 blanks for about $40-50.

again...my offer stands. 4 blank discs. Plus shipping.

That's all you pay.



I just check PRICEWATCH.COM and found 100 yes 100 blank DVD-r for only $40 shipped to your door!

CHEAP - GOOD 4x DVD-r's

So I know that we can find em' cheap!

I also was able to send out all the DVD'r that have been requested - I did kill my DVD supply but hey I just bought 100!

Rik
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#47045
Topic
The Phantom Edit - a general discussion thread...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/47045/action/topic#47045
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
Has anyone here actually seen the elusive Phantom Edit?

I've been DYING to see it, and can find no place to download it.

Is it any good?


That depends on you.....

Here is some information on the known RE-EDITS of Star Wars

STAR WARS: The True Theatrical Version
Pre- A New Hope

From "Star Wars" to "A New Hope":

The reissue of "Star Wars" that ran for three weeks starting on Wednesday, August 15, 1979, DID NOT contain the "Episode IV: A NEW HOPE" subtitle. A trailer for "Empire" was shown, however, and a Kenner toys discount booklet was given out (both of which are announced on the poster for the reissue).

The first appearance of "Episode IV: A NEW HOPE" was on the new prints struck for the two-week reissue of "Star Wars" on April 10,1981, nearly one year after the premiere of "Empire." By the way, when the subtitle was added, the roll-up itself was changed. Lines of text were condensed differently so the length of the roll-up remained the same despite the addition of two lines at the top. The capitalized words DEATH STAR appear on one line in the first version and are broken on the revised version.

For the record, "Empire" was reissued later that year, on July 31, 1981. In 1982, "Star Wars" returned on April 10 and "Empire" on November 19.Both of these reissues featured identical "Revenge of the Jedi" trailers.

Floating around the black market limbo of sci-fi conventions and fanboy heaven is a forgotten bootleg of "Star Wars," a film transfer of the original 1977 theatrical release. It's interesting mainly as a curiosity, because the transfer is awful, the image is cropped poorly, and I'm sure that we all have much better, legal copies lying around. Nevertheless, as an account of the minor changes made to "Star Wars" over the years, it's priceless.

Following is a list of differences -

*Video differences:

First, the tape isn't really panned and scanned. It's panned all right, but not scanned--the picture just sits on the center of the widescreen frame. The only video difference I could find was in the opening scroll. Not only was the "Episode IV: A New Hope" tag missing,
but the lines were formatted differently.

Laserdisc reads:

Episode IV
A NEW HOPE

It is a period of civil war.
Rebel spaceships, striking
from a hidden base, have won
their first victory against
the evil Galactic Empire.

During the battle, Rebel
spies managed to steal secret
plans to the Empire's
ultimate weapon, the DEATH
STAR, an armored space
station with enough power to
destroy an entire planet.

Pursued by the Empire's
sinister agents, Princess
Leia races home aboard her
starship, custodian of the
stolen plans that can save
her people and restore
freedom to the galaxy . . . .

Pre-ANH reads:

It is a period of civil war.
Rebel spaceships, striking
from a hidden base, have
won their first victory
against the evil Galactic
Empire.

During the battle, Rebel
spies managed to steal
secret plans to the Empire's
ultimate weapon, the
DEATH STAR, an armored
space station with enough
power to destroy an entire
planet.

Pursued by the Empire's
sinister agents, Princess
Leia races home aboard her
starship, custodian of the
stolen plans that can save
her people and restore
freedom to the galaxy . . .

Oddly enough, there is ONE visual difference. As the stormtroopers are distracted by the duel between Vader and Kenobi, Threepio turns and says, "Come on, Artoo. We're going." - CUT to Han who says, "Now's our chance, go!" In the version with the mono mix, these two shots are reversed!

*Audio differences:

The nine 70mm prints contained a 6-track Dolby mix that was considered unfinished. When the properly cut prints were made, both 70mm and 35mm, they went into wide release accompanied by finished soundtracks. BUT, Dolby Stereo prints of the time were not mono-compatible as they are now, so sound designer Ben Burtt created a totally different monaural sound mix for 35mm, knowing that there were not many stereo theaters at the time. In my experience, this mix got its widest exposure during the "extended first run," which is erroneously (though widely) referred to as the "1978 reissue." The "Story of Star Wars" narration record was made using this different sound mix (with stereo sound effects laid over it); in it one can hear some of these differences. The echo at the chasm is only on the stereo mix, by the way, and it must be played back in stereo in order for it to be heard. It cannot even be heard on a Dolby print played in a mono theater or on a laserdisc played over a mono television monitor.

Threepio's lines ("The tractor beam is coupled...") were added back into the home video sound master in 1986. For the recent boxed set laserdisc, a new soundtrack was created for ANH, incorporating all of the above. Oddly enough, Threepio's lines were left out once again!

1) Alarms and klaxons are different.

2) Added panel sound effects aboard the Falcon, including a descending whine as they come out of hyperspace.

3) The communications to Tarkin via comlink are completely different.

4) When Threepio and Artoo are hiding from the Imperials on Tatooine, the stormtroopers dubbed voice is different, and so is the line:

Laserdisc:
"All right, check this side of the street. The doors locked. Move on to the next one."

Pre-ANH video:
"All right, check that side of the street. It's secure. Move on to the next one."

5) A different actress dubs for Aunt Beru. Neither version features the real voice of actress Shelagh Fraser, who has a thick British accent.

6) Some Threepio dialogue uses different takes. The additional lines ("The tractor beam is coupled to the main reactor in seven locations. A power loss at one of the terminals will allow the ship to leave....") are missing from the laserdisc version.

7) The echo in the core shaft ("I think we took a wrong turn...") is present in both versions. However, the echo is more pronounced in the laserdisc version--probably because the video is missing the surround channels.

8) The laserdisc is missing the now-famous "Close the blast doors!" line.

9) Intership voices during the final battle are not synthesized.

10) During the final battle, "countdown" voices on the Death Star and at the Massassi base on Yavin IV are completely different.

11) Luke's line on the laserdisc, "Blast it, Biggs. Where are you?" is different on the pre-ANH video: "Blast it, Wedge. Where are you?"

The PHANTOM EDITS!

Star Wars: The Phantom Edit 1.1
The West Coast Version

This version is also known as the Los Angeles version, the one with the altered introduction crawl that runs approximately one hour and fifty four minutes (give or take a few seconds). The quality was decent, the audio was poor in a few places, and the video skipped a bit, but other than that the presentation was fine. The only major changes to the film were the subtraction of severa
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#47044
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The Phantom Edit - a general discussion thread...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/47044/action/topic#47044
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Hi there guys!

I post the Phantom Edit 1.1 up the the bittorents about 30 days ago and it's been up and down. I will mail anyone the torrent file if they want it - I'm no longer a seeder at this point (I just moved and no longer have my cable connection ) so I can't say how fast it is anymore.

IF anyone is interested in a copy I can get you one for say TWO blank DVDr's or email me and we can work out arrangments.

Drop me a line........

Rik!

BUT I have the Phantom Edit 1.1 on DVDr -

Star Wars: The Phantom Edit 1.1
The West Coast Version
- 1 DVDr
- Source - Original convention VHS
- Interactive Menus
- Bonus Videos
- Custom Cover Art available

AND I also have these titles coming in in trades!

Star Wars: The TRUE Original Theatrical Film
Pre-ANH Version
- 1 DVDr
- Source - 3rd generation VHS of a 1977 Telecine of original stock film
- Interactive Menus??

Star Wars: The Phantom Edit 1.2
The New York Re-Edit, The East Coast Version
- 1 DVDr
- Source - ??
- Interactive Menus?

Star Wars: Episode I - Balance of the Force
MagnoliaFan Edition
- 1 DVDr
- Source - ??
- Interactive Menus?

Star Wars: Episode II - The Clone War
MagnoliaFan Edition
- 1 DVDr
- Source - ??
- Interactive Menus?
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#46996
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/46996/action/topic#46996
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Originally posted by: bdratzke
http://i23.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/be/32/b1_1_b.JPG

this is the set i bought and recieved just today (correction - this is not the exact same set - after emailing the seller the transfers of the actual films seems to be identical BUT THE BONUS DVD is different - i have yet to find a seller on ebay offering this)

i have personally owned 5 different versions of the OT and this one is the keeper for me.

video quality is easily 9.5 out of 10
audio quality (my reciever is displaying DD 2.0 and the covers of the discs themselves proclaim DD THX SURROUND) is BY FAR the best mix i have heard. crisp dialog and deep encompassing surrounds.

if the quality of the films themselves wasn't selling point enough for me the bonus dvd blew me away.

included on it are

every theatrical trailer (revenge of the jedi trailer as well)
production stills gallery.
behind the scenes featurette.
archive featurette
3 deleted scenes (about 15 or so minutes)
3 interviews (about 25 minutes)
and the complte FROM STAR WARS TO JEDI making of the trilogy documentary (approx 60 mins)

the quality of all these suppliments is outstanding.

anyways, just wanted to drop you guys a line to make you aware of yet another version floating around. i picked mine up for $55 (shipping included) and i am MORE than happy with the set.

ps- it's a 4 dvd set, each film on a seperate disc and the (approx 2 hours) suppliments rounding out the 4th dvd



Can you post a capture of one of the menus?

And are you willing to trade DVDr's?

- Word

Rik

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#46117
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/46117/action/topic#46117
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But right now DVD-R's are very cheap and very easy to reproduce. THOSE are facts. And if you're selling them for the price of the DVD-r's, then fine. But if you're going to put a price on the "time involved" then it makes me question whether or not your'e a real fan. A real fan would be doing this for himself and to make the best product he can and then to share it with other people but NOT to make a profit off of it. And the "risk involved in bringing you this set safely??? I didn't realize you were Indiana Jones and hand delivering these through ice, sleet, snow and rain...lol I'm not exactly sure how the US postal system is not safe.

Bottom line, don't rip people off. It disgusts me. And the high and mighty attitude is just ridiculous. Regardless of what you've done, these aren't your movies. It isn't your place to illegally reproduce them. And it isn't your place to rip people off.



That's why I'd rather trade for other DVDr's - Send me two blanks get 1 burned DVD in return -

RiK

Again I stress let's Keep the Star Wars fan community FREE of Hooligans and Pirates!!
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#44385
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/44385/action/topic#44385
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I already pre-paid for my Trilogy set !

I really do like what he was doing with the Special Editions - He included the little floating probe bots that are seen in the Droids animated series that predates the original trilogy SO we do know that GL was not talkin' poop when he said that he wanted to add this type of SFX to the original trilogy. I also LOVE the cleaned up picture that theyu were able to produce - SO yes the SE Trilogy getting the THX treatment for both sound and video was just about awesome put it this way I've been able to restore some of my VHS rips real good with digital video tools.

But I just can't get over the Han NOT shooting Greedo first OR that Jabba CG poop - THIS is almost and I do stress almost unforgivable after the effort that was done by Rick Baker and the rest of the SFX team. Jabba was real, Jabba was alien and had a freaky realism to him that the CG version lacks.

Anyway that's my SUPPORT for the Special Edition and also how and why I felt a bit let down by them.

BUT I wonder.

Are there any new changes to come

Rikter
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#44116
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Sequel Trilogy? Say it's so!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/44116/action/topic#44116
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
nope not true


Let's take a trip in the WAY-BACK-WHEN machine my friends

+1 Year after Jedi opened in a big city far far away......

Enter - Two Fan boys at a comicon


PSSST.......

......What?

Did you hear that they may make another Star Wars Trilogy?

......nope not true

No really man it's true! it's gonna be about Vader being a kid and getting tossed in a volcano and killing all the Jedi!

.......Nope man not gonna happen no way


Enter 1999

Episode I: The Phantom Menace

Shades of truth?

Too soon to tell but didn't GL at one time mention Spielberg as a possible director for a Star Wars movie?

Think - Raiders of the lost......... Jedi???

Word
Rik
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#44113
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Plot holes in the SW saga
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/44113/action/topic#44113
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Originally posted by: jimbo
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Originally posted by: HotRod
Actually in Jimbos defense...

In 1980 when Empire cam out, you could by a folding poster thing. On the back was a load of info an shit!!
One had a piece about the Empire, and it stated there that the Stormtroopers were clones...

Also, Jimbo is correct in saying, if Goerge Lucas says they are Clones, then they are Clones.
They may not have been once, but they are now!



Wow I did not know that. If thats true then the Stormtroopers were always considered clones. I originally assumed that he didn't believe that until he made the prequals.




I bet there will be another DVD release of the SE Trilogy after the movies wrap up something like The STOOPER EDITION of Star Wars and on top of all the added CG from the SE it will include Jango Fetts voice dubbed of all the Troopers voices...

How long have you had these Droids.........

Weak man weak, but he it's GL's story right?

I just gotta think - SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEVE

Word

RiK