RicOlie_2

Well, I'll give you some practical reasons for that for starters. I'll hopefully be able to give you more satisfactory ones tomorrow, but no promises. This is in the order I think of them, not of importance or relevance:

1. Priests very often live with other priests. It would be very complicated to have to have separate dwelling-places for priests for a single parish. There is a reason that people who struggle keeping their sexual tendencies under control aren't usually allowed to become priests.

2. Because men tend to have a harder time connecting with their Faith, it helps to have an important and special role for them that doesn't make them feel that religion is for women. This sounds silly when summed up like this, but it comes down to the way men and women differ.

3. You may note that men are almost always the leaders in history. This isn't in and of itself a reason, but an indicator that men may be better suited for public leadership, with women being better suited to direct things "behind the scenes" and taking care of people on a more personal level, rather than caring for large groups in a less personal way. Note that this is a different type of leadership than a government position, which is a job, unlike the priesthood which is properly a complete dedication and surrender to the will of the God and the Church. Monarchy is comparable in some ways, but one isn't chosen for monarchy based on leadership qualities but on birth, so it isn't a double standard to support woman monarchy but oppose woman priesthood.

I'll try to add more later, as I said, but later might end up being several days for now--it takes a while to answer these questions, which are asked with such ease.

To help me answer your question properly, could you give me your reasons for thinking women should be allowed to become priests?

Warbler said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Well, in the Catholic interpretation of things, priests are called by God. If God doesn't call any women to be priests, we can't very well ordain any. That's obviously a very simplistic explanation, but if there is really a God, I think he's got that kind of authority.

 So how does the Catholic Church determine if somone is called by God to be a Priest?

 Well, it comes down to interpreting the signs of a vocation. Usually, such a vocation develops over time. First, a guy might start thinking about the priesthood, which grows into a feeling that he is being called to become a priest, which becomes stronger, until he is sure that it is the path he should take.

Additionally, in order to become a priest one should have a desire to serve others--and for the right reasons. If his motivation to become a priest has to do with the approval it would win him in the eyes of certain people, or it is at all fueled by a desire for status or power, then those are signs that that person may not make a good priest. Or, a person might want to become a priest to escape the responsibilities of family life or life in the "real world," which is also a faulty motive.

A candidate for the priesthood must further be fit for the priesthood itself. That is, they must be able to meet the demands of celibacy, or whatever other sacrifices that are demanded of the priesthood. They must have the ability to be in charge of a parish without being overwhelmed by it. They must have sufficient strength of faith and knowledge of theology and Church teaching to be able to pass it on to others. They must be comfortable helping people and able to aid people in spiritual growth, but also be able to handle living alone.

Affirmation by others that one would make a good priest, or suggestion that one should consider becoming one are also good indicators of a call to the priesthood. If it seems that everyone is commenting on what a good priest you'd make, it may be something to consider.

None of the above, taken on their own, are good signs of a priestly vocation. Usually they all come together, sometimes in a short period of time, sometimes over years or even decades.

As you'll note, the above list is quite subjective. That can result in bad priests. Usually, in those cases, not everything in the above list is met. There isn't a "vocation checklist" which must have every box checked off in order to be ordained, so some people get ordained when they have imperfection motivations, or are doing it to escape life.

However, it does give you a fairly good idea of what the Church looks for in priests, and how a vocation can be recognized. Nearly all, if not all, good priests live up to the above in terms of motivation and suitability for the priesthood as described.

I was going to jokingly use that number one in my reply. ;)

Actually the real reason women can't be priests is that, being women, they could only be priestesses, not priests.

I'll respond to you after supper, Warb.

darth_ender said:

overwhelmed/underwhelmed - you can never be just "whelmed", except maybe in Europe 

 I came across "whelm" for perhaps the first time in my life just now. Obviously, it doesn't actually quire again a fix before or after.

Hey, what if she's really a Sith working behind the scenes, and she gets her way into the top position in the New Republic, then manipulates both the Empire and the New Republic into a war with each other, directing both sides, then betrays the Jedi and declares a new Empire with herself as Empress!

Pg4xh5

Weird. And LOL at that red text. :D

Warbler said:

how the heck are you able to drink and smoke weed right before work and during lunch break?   I would think most places would fire you for that.

 Who drinks weed?

Aside from rumors and speculation, which we probably don't need, all I can think of is interviews of the cast.

Posters and whatnot will come later, and those of course will be included, but since we don't have any now, that's less of a priority.

Well, the teaser trailer is already linked to in the OP, so number one is more or less taken care of. Naturally, however, it's the one we need to worry about the least, since it's almost certain to be kept up and put on Blu-Rays for years to come.

Ah, of course. Webpages aren't very permanent, I guess. Well, assembling them all into one spot would be a start. It would then be easy just to follow the links systematically and download the files. I would be willing to make a copy if people worked on assembling the links to them.

AntcuFaalb said:

.Mac. said:

Looks like the latest video for the UNICEF is online and it reveals a noticeably older Chewie! Unlike that image a while back we thought he'd look like (in there I didn't think he was "aged" enough), here his eyes look aged with more white around on his face, just like how an older dog would show age - I think he looks perfect now.

http://www.slashfilm.com/j-j-abrams-thanks-star-wars-force-awakens-set/

Please, please, please tell me there's someone here collecting all of this stuff: the teaser trailer (in HD); the UNICEF videos; the appearance on John Oliver; the leaked concept art.

If not, then can we get something going?

 If other people do most of the collecting, I'll stick it all in the first post so it's easy to find. It might be a bit much for one person to do, so I propose that everyone takes a certain range of pages (and lets us know which ones) and compiles all the links/pictures into one post, which I will then add to the OP.

I'll take pages 1-5 for now.

Pb3-c4

Fang Zei said:

The stuff that was added for the dvd was probably finished at greater-than-dvd resolution, maybe even full 2k, but those scenes exhibit aliasing and other issues compared to the rest of the blu-ray.

 Why do they have to be compared in order to exhibit those issues? ;)

Just like you have to reject the OT in order to properly dismiss the PT, right? Oh, wait, you don't.

Let's not start down that path again....

And I really want to see this film, but I can't.

Leonardo said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Leonardo said:

Orang-ey, right?

 It looks strongly red to me, which was why I asked.

 I see orangey-red. As far as I'm aware I am only colour-blind to certain shades of green, so hopefully my eyes aren't getting bad at seeing reds as well.

 AFAIK, it's not supposed to get worse. That's why I was freaking out, because I remember being able to see the coat, long ago, on vhs.

Mine is red-green. It gets so frustrating at times.

 That's what I thought, but I supposedly had perfect colour vision once and now I don't. It's possible, however, that the tests they did before just didn't include the colours I can't see.

Ryan McAvoy said:

Leonardo said:

Orang-ey, right?

 It looks strongly red to me, which was why I asked.

 I see orangey-red. As far as I'm aware I am only colour-blind to certain shades of green, so hopefully my eyes aren't getting bad at seeing reds as well.

Lf2-f3

The red is there, though it looks a bit pink at times and is quite faint in most shots. It's more red/grey in some shots than others as well, but it isn't completely grey.

There, that's more like it...I guess.

Possessed said:

It's not a rotting corpse, it's Regan from The Exorcist, and she isn't dead. She's...wait for it... POSSESSED.  Get it?  It was just a clip from the exorcist of her laughing.

 I'll never understand the enjoyment people get out of watching people pretend to be possessed. I'd be about as eager to see that kind of show as I would be to see one featuring severely mentally handicapped people have seizures. Am I missing something here? :P

I keep forgetting this is the good news thread. Maybe it's time to drop this useless discussion.

Possessed said:

Maybe this will help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFpuPCpIuJw

Only about 35 seconds of this video is relevant, but it is in fact what is pictured in my avatar, laughing.

 I'm not sure if I want to see a rotting course corpse laughing, so I'll abstain and just take your word for it.

Possessed said:

RicOlie_2 said:

No, I haven't.

Lol?

 I'm trying to imagine your avatar laughing uncertainly, but I'm not managing it very well.