Becoming a priest, nun, or monk is a choice. Celibacy is not imposed on anyone, but those who choose it seem to get by just fine. Black people, on the other hand, do not choose to be black.
Well at least to me a fetus is not really a person yet. Also let’s not forget that some abortions are for women impregnated by their rapist so in that case I think it’s definitely justified to get an abortion.
What makes a person a person?
To me a person is a human who is fully developed or at least close to it and birthed into the world.
What does fully developed mean? The frontal lobe does not fully develop until one’s late twenties. Are people not people before then?
Who decides what falls under that definition?
I’m pretty sure the people who have knowledge of trimesters and other things of the like.
Who decides why a line should be drawn between various trimesters, and not, say, at conception, when a unique genetic code is created?
In the case of rape, why is it justifiable to end a third party’s life (that of a not fully developed human being who is completely dependent on his mother, but that also describes a one-year old) because they are a product of violence done to you?
Because the woman didn’t choose to partake in sexual intercourse and the woman didn’t choose to bear a child. I don’t think a raped woman should have to take on such a huge responsibility because of mere misfortune. I mean wouldn’t these woman had enough control taken away from them?
Why should the helpless fetus/embryo have even its chance to have a life taken from it? Adoption is also a possibility, though I admit that it is not that simple.
Well at least to me a fetus is not really a person yet. Also let’s not forget that some abortions are for women impregnated by their rapist so in that case I think it’s definitely justified to get an abortion.
What makes a person a person? Who decides what falls under that definition? Is it justifiable to subject a fetus to the kind of pain that they experience during an abortion? Would not the same done to another non-person, such as a puppy, be considered horrific cruelty?
http://www.salon.com/2013/08/07/fetal_pain_is_a_lie_how_phony_science_took_over_the_abortion_debate/
Interesting, though you may want to get in the habit of finding more credible sources, not tabloids, to substantiate your claims, like:
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=201429&resultclick=1
(The first Google result when I searched “fetal pain”).
Partial-birth abortions are still pretty horrific. I also suspect that people would think it cruel to perform saline injections on fish, or to cut them to pieces while they are still living, despite their inability to feel pain in the way we do.
In the case of rape, why is it justifiable to end a third party’s life (that of a not fully developed human being who is completely dependent on his mother, but that also describes a one-year old) because they are a product of violence done to you?
Do you eat meat? Those animals feel more pain that most of the aborted fetuses, which are done at 20 weeks or earlier. How can you justify ending those animal’s lives simply for your pleasure?
I think their lives should be ended as painlessly as possible. Note that without human protection, these animals would have to deal with the far more painful diseases and carnivorous animals, such as wolves, that nature has to offer.
That dream would have put me to sleep while I was sleeping.
No doubt. She probably didn’t come back because I fell asleep at the wheel and got us killed.
Thank goodness my real friends are more interesting.
I agree, and suspect that he is in fact quite arrogant, but only because it’s his way of dealing with being excluded. I had that problem when I was a smaller person…
A few nights ago, I had a dream that my dad brought me home a girlfriend. We weren’t particularly interested in each other, and just sat awkwardly around in different places until my dad finally suggested I go and talk to her.
The next night, I had a follow-up dream, in which she came over again. While she was out of the room, I had to ask my dad what her name was, as he had evidently forgotten to introduce her the first time (it was Crystal). I still wasn’t really interested in her, but instead of sitting around awkwardly, I decided to take her to Arby’s this time. The dream ended just as we got there.
Thankfully, she didn’t come back the next night. The date must not have gone well. 😄
So it’s only valid in cases where someone has a choice?
I’m not sure I would say it that way, but I’m not really sure how I would say it.
By that logic, I can’t “hate the sin” of an individual attracted to the same sex, but I can “hate the sin” of someone having homosexual sex, right? Bear in mind that you probably don’t know my views on homosexuality (and others who’ve known me longer and think they do likely not either) so don’t bring me personally into this. It’s merely a question. Homosexual sex is in fact a choice.
Sexual relief is a requirement for humans, and if you’re gay then the only way to get that is through gay sex. It may technically be a choice, but it’s a choice in the sense that your only other option is to be unhappy/sexually frustrated.
A requirement? That’s nonsense. Most of the very celibate priests and nuns I know lead very fulfilling and happy lives. Our parish priest is one of the happiest people I know, and he’s a virgin. Also, I’m young yet, but I feel that I could live quite contentedly without ever having sex. It’s not a pressing desire at the moment (not to say that it isn’t a desire).
Oooooh…I get it. It’s the atheist version of that “Hate the sin, love the sinner” thing. Caughtcha! How progressive!
The difference is that “Love the sinner, hate the sin” is usually referring to homosexuality. In that case, the ‘sin’ is a part of who they are, and something they can’t change. Religion is a belief, that can indeed be changed.
“Your sexuality is inherently sinful and wrong, but it doesn’t change my opinion of you as a person.”
vs
“I hate Christianity, but it doesn’t change my opinion of you as a person.”
I’m curious to know just how many people think homosexual attraction is a sin, because I sure don’t. It can’t be, as it’s not a choice. I do believe that sex outside of sacramental marriage is, and is very much a choice (with the obvious exception of rape).
Well at least to me a fetus is not really a person yet. Also let’s not forget that some abortions are for women impregnated by their rapist so in that case I think it’s definitely justified to get an abortion.
What makes a person a person? Who decides what falls under that definition? Is it justifiable to subject a fetus to the kind of pain that they experience during an abortion? Would not the same done to another non-person, such as a puppy, be considered horrific cruelty?
In the case of rape, why is it justifiable to end a third party’s life (that of a not fully developed human being who is completely dependent on his mother, but that also describes a one-year old) because they are a product of violence done to you?
I think he’s the more insulting.
You’re still part of the problem, I’m afraid. Just ignore the guy. Stop feeding the trolls.
The snow part is weird, but June is one of the main months we get hail up here…
Mark’s Down On Your Syntax said:
I live in England, where we seem to be stuck in this frustrating mix of metric and imperial measurement.
We use miles almost exclusively for long distances (no road signs have kilometres) but feet and meters interchangeably for anything shorter. Depending on who you’re speaking to, and it really doesn’t seem to an age or class thing (at least where I live), you have to adjust which you use because people tend to get a bit funny with you if you use the “wrong” one.
For example, when people buy tobacco the vast majority ask for it in imperial weight - even though the packaging is 100% metric. It’s a very odd combination of ways of measuring and must be even more confusing for the young’uns.
Don’t even get me started on what happens when you go from Northern Ireland to Southern Ireland - daftness.
It doesn’t really matter which you use but I wish they’d just pick one and run with it.
It’s like this in Canada as well, though to a lesser degree. That’s mostly the fault of our stubborn neighbours to the south, however, who keep sending us stuff with non-metric measurements on it…(well, maybe not mostly–imperial units for measuring height and weight just seem to have stuck).
You’ve been making great progress! Keep it up and I’m sure you will be able to enjoy your next birthday far more, and the next one far more than that. The important thing is to not let yourself give up no matter how many times you slip up!
I hope you enjoy(ed) your birthday as much as possible! My thoughts (and prayers) are with you.
Haha, I think they listen to most of their books, or read using text-to-speech. There was a blind guy in my math class who was big into “readng” and that’s what he did most of the time.
That must be a real pain in the neck. Have you ever seen how big a book in braille is? Unless you just read those signs that have a braille transcription on them.
😉
^Sounds like my life a couple weeks ago. 😄
A real paper one. I often read both, but I’d take a nice hardcover book over an ebook any day.
I had enough free time today to actually sit down and read a book. 😃
For some context, it was still light out when I started writing that post.
Outside? It’s still light out for me right now. 😄
Eastern time, Georgia.
So I probably started around six o’ clock, where you can still see the sun quite brightly, and ended around nine o’ clock, when the Sun is almost fully set.
Sun sets early down south.
I’m not sure if I’d call this “early”.
Sunset is at 10:07 today where I’m at, so I just might. 😉
For some context, it was still light out when I started writing that post.
Outside? It’s still light out for me right now. 😄
Eastern time, Georgia.
So I probably started around six o’ clock, where you can still see the sun quite brightly, and ended around nine o’ clock, when the Sun is almost fully set.
Sun sets early down south.
I don’t. Trolls are usually people who need help of some sort. They need a therapist or some friends, maybe, but not jail.
Up here in Canada, we boil water at those temperatures.
Speaking of that funeral scene, I was planning on doing one of those sniper red dot thingies on Jar Jar if I could figure out how to do it. But what about a view through the scope instead?
That works equally well, I think.
As my avatar is too small to behold in all its beauty, I figured I’d share it here:
(And yes, I know this is the wrong thread, but I figured I might as well go along with http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/703677)
Are you using Google Translate by any chance?
