RicOlie_2

Well, it proves that I was here before Ric was banned.

Jetrell Fo said:

skyjedi2005 said:

Its got to be a pun on TFN. 

 I've suspected RicOlie_2 was a sock since it appeared after the first RicOlie was banned as a sock ..... I just don't know how to prove it.

:(

 Check my join date and you are effectively un-proved.

I wrote my post in such a way that it would be easy to tell I meant the exact opposite, and then you could gather that the other stuff didn't bug me. So I thought, anyway. You don't seem to catch on very quick though. ;)

darth_ender said:

Oopsy.  Can't even read.  I'll fix it.  Sorry.

No prob, but it would have been a bother if it took too long to catch.

K-4a

blinky

 K-3h

Jetrell Fo said:

RicOlie_2 said:

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 So Ric, who does the little sock puppet head in your avatar represent?

 LOL, you are so entertaining!

Based on your join date, I would think no, but you sure act like one.

Jetrell Fo said:

RicOlie_2 said:

hairy_hen said:

I think some people need to learn how to pick up on facetious sarcasm.

LOL, no kidding! I'm beginning to suspect he's a sock!

You have no idea ...................... 

 Wait, is that confirmation?

If you didn't pick it up at the last sentence, Jetrell, then you're either failing at sarcasm, or my attempt at humour is going waay over your head.

I meant the exact opposite of what I was saying and I made it pretty clear (I thought so anyway...I wasn't that bad, was I?).

hairy_hen said:

I think some people need to learn how to pick up on facetious sarcasm.

LOL, no kidding! I'm beginning to suspect he's a sock!

^LOL, same!

The nice thing about this thread is that I have an excuse to bump it every day (and it's educational!). ;)

darth_ender said:

G-4b

slinky

 I'm glad you posted the link because there's already a discrepancy. You have my pawn at 2f, but I called 7f. Other than that we're on the same page.

K-4h

Yes, that is correct, but I think Duracell knows that now. He was just saying that he was taught differently when he was growing up.

darth_ender said:

S-3b

 R-7h

2014: I don't make this thread and decide to read a book instead...

That's what I thought, though I wasn't sure because I remembered hearing something else.

So Christmas is short for "Christ's Mass" which makes sense, because a special feast day would have a special Mass.

It isn't bad dipped in sugar, either...

It's good with cherries too. I love a good homemade cherry-rhubarb pie.

^That's weird, I've never heard that one...Christmas isn't the only "mas" as there's Michaelmas and a few others. I can't remember what the exact meaning is though.

Ah, yes, I forgot to mention the feast of the Epiphany, because in the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church it is usually celebrated on the nearest Sunday to the actual date.

Sure, I'll go first.

P-7f

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Since I love history, have way too much time on my hands, and have no life, I am going to post an historical event corresponding to the current date every day if I can.

I welcome discussion on the events, so if you disagree with my assertion of the importance and effects of the events, or if you just feel like making posts in my thread, go for it.

January 6:

A.D. 1494: The first Mass is celebrated in the New World, at La Isabela, Hispaniola.

Of course most, if not all, of you don’t give a hoot, so I’ll try to find one that’s more relevant…

A.D. 1893: The Great Northern Railway connects Seattle with the East Coast of the U.S.A.

I don’t care, I’m not American.

A.D. 1912: New Mexico becomes the 47th state of the U.S.A.

Again, I don’t give a [CENSORED] because I’m not American. Hmmm…I’m running out of years and I haven’t found a relevant date…

Oh, I found one:

A.D. 1929: Mother Teresa arrives in Calcutta and begins her work among the poor.

There, now we can all have a discussion about Mother Teresa and call her names and so forth.

d_ender, unless you're too busy, I wouldn't mind playing two games at once. I would just quote my opponent so that you could tell in which game I made the move.

Since both you and Twister generally don't reply more than once a day unless we're online at the same time, it wouldn't be a problem but I would get more playing time. ;)

MrBrown said:

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm

Maybe somekind propaganda in it, but also a nice list of historical things regarding christmas.

 None of that stuff is news to me, and much of it is in fact present in a history series about Christians, for Christians, and by Christians, that I am reading now.

I'm going to comment on some stuff from that page, so sorry about the formatting changes.

EDIT: Never mind, they're fixed now! :)

A.     Popular myth puts his birth on December 25^th in the year 1 C.E.

However, most Christians who know their stuff are aware that that is only a tradition, not the actual time we think he was born.

B.     The New Testament gives no date or year for Jesus’ birth.  The earliest gospel – St. Mark’s, written about 65 CE – begins with the baptism of an adult Jesus.  This suggests that the earliest Christians lacked interest in or knowledge of Jesus’ birthdate.

Very much wrong. The author of gLuke gives many references to dates. He mentions Herod and Emperors Augustus and Tiberius as well as others. From these we can place Jesus' birth sometime in March-April between 6 and 4 BC.

C.     The year of Jesus birth was determined by Dionysius Exiguus, a Scythian monk, “abbot of a Roman monastery.  His calculation went as follows:

...[blah, blah, blah]...

I learned that when I was between twelve and fourteen.

 Christmas has always been a holiday celebrated carelessly.  For millennia, pagans, Christians, and even Jews have been swept away in the season’s festivities, and very few people ever pause to consider the celebration’s intrinsic meaning, history, or origins.

No, most people don't know squat about the history of Christmas celebrations. I had never heard about mistletoe, but it hardly surprised me as I had never thought it had Christian origins. There are multiple traditions of the origins of the Christmas tree, but I think the de-paganization of a pagan symbol is the most likely. It doesn't mean anything though. It doesn't negate the value of Christmas, or prove that Christmas is a bunch of garbage.

·       Christmas celebrates the birth of the Christian god who came to rescue mankind from the “curse of the Torah.”  It is a 24-hour declaration that Judaism is no longer valid.

Who believes that Jesus came to "rescue" us from the "curse of" the Torah? If anyone thinks that, they need to read their Bible. The Torah gave a law which was intended to be temporary until the Israelites were better able to accept a new, fuller law. Jesus came to fulfill the law; to update it. It was not a curse either, but rather an imperfect form of the law.

·        Christmas is a lie.  There is no Christian church with a tradition that Jesus was really born on December 25^th.

Christmas is not a lie just because we celebrate Jesus birth on the wrong date. We don't know the date of his birth, so we don't claim that Jesus was really born then. Saying it's a lie just because it's only his traditional date of birth and not his real birth, placed at that time to Christanize Saturnalia rather than have it develop separate from pagan festivities is retarded. I'm sorry, but it is.

·        December 25 is a day on which Jews have been shamed, tortured, and murdered.

It is a great atrocity on the part of those who did it, and I'm sorry it happened. No true Christian would support that. However, just because evil was done on the same day as, or even as part of the celebration for Christmas, doesn't mean that Christmas is all of a sudden a day on which anti-Semetism is a part. Jesus died for all people, not just the Christians, and that includes the Jews.

·        Many of the most popular Christmas customs – including Christmas trees, mistletoe, Christmas presents, and Santa Claus – are modern incarnations of the most depraved pagan rituals ever practiced on earth.

All these have different connotations now. Why does it matter anyway? None of it is necessary to celebrate Christmas. It is primarily a celebration of Jesus' birth, meaning that honouring his birth ought to be the focal point of Christian celebrations at Christmas time and none of the rest of it matters (to Christians, I mean).