Alright, now try sticking with your apology this time instead of forgetting about it.
OBI-WAN37 said:
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OBI-WAN37 said:
The dialogue. ("Hello There")
I love how you used an example of dialogue that they borrowed from the OT. Name some original dialogue in the PT that is good.
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I love how many examples you gave are prime examples of the terrible dialogue in the OT. The other dialogue is decent--none of it is "good."
The characters.
Some of the characters that are from the OT (Obi-Wan, Palpatine) as well as Qui-Gon and the physical appearances of Darth Maul and General Grievous were good, but the rest (Jar Jar, Anakin, Padmé, Count Dooku, etc.) were pretty terrible.
What about Palpatine, and Mace Windu.
LOL, did you even read what I wrote? :P I mentioned Palpatine, and Mace Windu wasn't that great. He wasn't terrible though.
The huge amount of models, life-size props, and miniatures.
The percentage of models and real sets compared to the OT is very low.
ActuallY i've heard people who prefer the OT admit to the seemingly well know fact that there were more models and miniatures in each singular PT film than in the entire OT. I'm pretty sure I've heard people claim, "it's all fake, and it looks totally fake", on a scene that did in fact have two prominent models (the main jedi starfighters in Episode III)
"More models" doesn't mean "a higher percentage of models." Of course the PT had more models. It was loaded with far more ships and a greater variety of things. The Jedi Starfighters you mention were the only non-CG element in that shot. That's why the shot looked fake.
hairy_hen said:
Uh, do you really not understand that you can hate a sin and not the sinner?
I 'understand' that this is the most pathetic and laughable excuse for bigotry I've ever heard. If you can't hear the hypocrisy behind it, then you fail at life.
Ooh, he fails at life! Now that's a good strong argument. We need more of those. ;)
Take the judgemental bullsh!t somewhere else. People with actual intelligence and compassion have no use for this sort of garbage, which is completely antithetical to anything that remotely resembles what Christ ever really said, or meant.
And I suppose you're the really compassionate type even though you don't hesitate to insult someone for their point of view. A patient and reasoned out post would accomplish far more than a hate-filled rant like this.
In the gospels, Jesus exemplifies the "hate the sin but not the sinner" attitude. For instance, when Judas betrays him, rather than curse Judas or yell at him, he says "Friend, do what you have come to do" (I'm going by memory here, so excuse me if I added or missed a couple words). Do you think the gospels indicate that Jesus condoned adultery? Because he seemed pretty forgiving of that woman he saved from stoning. How about the "love your enemies" line? I'm sure he didn't mean "love what your enemies do to you and the hate they show you." No, he meant just that we should love our enemies.
I have no patience for this kind of rubbish, and am not interested in debating it as if it were a point of view worth granting any consideration to at all. Don't let the door hit your @$$ on the way out.
Bigotry:
1. stubborn and complete intolerance for a belief, creed, or opinion that disagrees with one's own; prejudice.
Now tell me, is it bigoted to love someone, even though you disagree with what they do? If so, is it more or less bigoted to call that idea "rubbish" , "judgemental bulls***", and not worthy of consideration, saying that such an idea is only held by those who lack intelligence and compassion and who are hypocrites? Think about that, hairy_hen, and why it is possible to love someone and disagree with what they do at the same time. It is certainly not hypocritical, and I am sure those you have loved have done things you consider wrong at some point or other.
OBI-WAN37 said:
Almost everything.
The cinematography.
Some of it was good, but it didn't look like Star Wars.
The dialogue. ("Hello There")
I love how you used an example of dialogue that they borrowed from the OT. Name some original dialogue in the PT that is good.
The MUSIC.
I can't argue about that, though some of the best music is from the OT.
The lightsaber duels.
There was no emotion in them, but some of them are entertaining to watch. They could have been done far better though.
The vehicles with their sleek looks (Naboo Starfighter, Royal Naboo cruiser, Eta-2 class interceptor, venator, so many more).
To be honest, I like many vehicle designs in the PT, except for the fact that they all looked shiny and new ("all" is an exaggeration, but for the most part, they did). One of the things Star Wars was best known for was the fact that everything looked used and not sleek and shiny. Watch almost any other sci-fi film if you want sleek and shiny.
The tragedy.
There was no tragedy. The story had a happy ending. Anakin turned into an amazing character, the awful Jedi were destroyed, and the silly politicians were killed.
...I do, in actual fact, agree it is a tragedy, but certainly not a good tragedy. It wasn't about good people and a good republic going bad, but bad people and a bad republic getting worse.
The characters.
Some of the characters that are from the OT (Obi-Wan, Palpatine) as well as Qui-Gon and the physical appearances of Darth Maul and General Grievous were good, but the rest (Jar Jar, Anakin, Padmé, Count Dooku, etc.) were pretty terrible.
The huge amount of models, life-size props, and miniatures.
The percentage of models and real sets compared to the OT is very low.
The CGI.
Some of it is actually OK, but too much of it was used for the characters to deliver a convincing performance.
You know, you are a very entertaining troll/spammer/whatever you are.
Hold on, Ryan just agreed with your point and now you're disagreeing with him? I don't get it...
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I think Vader was always intended to be Luke's father though, even in the pre-ESB universe. His name even implies it.
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March 28:
A.D. 193: Roman Emperor Pertinax is assassinated by Praetorian Guards and his throne is auctioned off to Didius Julianus.
A.D. 364: Emperor Valentinian I appoints his brother Flavius Valens co-emperor.
A.D. 845: Paris is sacked by Viking raiders who collect a huge ransom in exchange for leaving.
A.D. 1794: Le Louvre opens to the public.
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Did I get the promotion right this time? :P
EDIT: And this is my last move for today. Good night. :)
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I think you may be right. I'll probably create a version with the combined moves and then make a second version with better balanced pieces and tweak the moves a bit (or create new pieces). I'm creating it on another spreadsheet in the same Ito Shogi document as the other one. I've also made a mini-version (1x18) and plan to make a weak piece and strong piece version of Ito Shogi as well. When I'm done all that, I'll send it to you via PM and you'll have all the versions of Ito Shogi from the Zillions version to our latest one, and be able to give me feedback on the other versions. :)
TV's Frink said:
ferris209 said:
hairy_hen said:
Then a great number of people were raised to believe it, completely failing to see that they'd incorporated hate and fear into a philosophy that was meant to promote loving your neighbour above all.Uh, do you really not understand that you can hate a sin and not the sinner?
I understand that it helps you feel better about yourself, but I've never bought it.
I don't get what's so hard about hating the sin and not the sinner. Don't you still love your kids even when they do something wrong? In some cases, the sin is greater, but the concept can still apply.
I'll let you make the first move so that you have time to get the zillions file if you don't have it yet (search for selfeliminator, without any hyphens or spaces).
Commander Courage said:
I divided the words the wrong way when I first read that...it took me a couple seconds to figure it out. :P
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Did you not see my other comment, or just not have time to respond to it?
Hey, I'm sorry!
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Store-bought strawberries aren't worth the money (at least by the time they get to Canada). But freshly picked strawberries...
I'm working on an expanded version of Ito Shogi (if it can still be called that) which is currently 3x34 squares. I am combining pieces' moves from Ito Shogi with their original ones and I wanted to ask you if you thought that was a bad idea or not. It helps facilitate forward movement (especially with pieces like the bishop), but it might be making things too complicated or some pieces too powerful.
Thoughts? Other suggestions for the set-up of the game are also welcome.
Alright, I'm ready for Self-eliminator Chess if you are. It's funny, this thread is the fourth result in a Google search for "Self-eliminator Chess" and first in a search for "Self-eliminator Chess download". I guess it isn't a very common variant. :)
That's how I understood it too, and it seems like most people understood it that way as well. I wasn't sure if Bingowings was just joking around or if he had misunderstood as well.
Since it wasn't a strategic error but a silly mistake, I am going to insist you take that back.
However, since you've been stubborn about that lately, I'll make a move in case you refuse. ;)
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