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So true… Or when you try to look up a famous book, and only the movie comes up.

jedi_bendu said:

He had an impressive first few days, he’s even out-progressived Justin Trudeau by suspending US arms sales to Saudi Arabia, and hopefully our government here in the UK will feel enough pressure to follow suit on things like that. This backtracking on the $2000 stimulus checks is disappointing, but I fully expected scenarios like this to happen, and fully expected that once Biden was in office there’d be a lot of campaigning, and twitter hashtagging, and online bullying the US President in order to achieve progressive change.

So far Biden’s been better than I expected honestly - with more executive orders than Clinton, Bush or Obama signed in their first fortnight, he did more good for America in one day than Trump did in four years. As a leftist, I’m just glad to have a president with whom the American left might have some chance of being listened to.

His decision about Keystone XL wasn’t very progressive though… It just means more oil being transported in environmentally destructive ways and from countries with no environmental standards.

I think some of his other policies are awful too, but for the sake of sparing this thread the fate of the politics thread, I’ll try to avoid stirring the pot too much.

I know, and I’d love every minute of it! Perhaps his voice could be deepened so it sounds even more ridiculous.

I don’t think it would actually improve the movie, but I think it would be highly entertaining.

Mocata said:

Where did his eye-stalks go

It’s a redesign. I want someone to go further and deepfake this Jar Jar into a fan edit. 😄

jedi_bendu said:

Spuffure said:

I hate gender roles, and what’s worse is when I say that, I look like a radical feminist and imagine what is called a SJW (not 100% sure if that’s an okay term).

Eh, no offence but anyone who uses ‘SJW’ unironically in the year 2021 loses all their credibility for me. I don’t know if you’d offend anyone by using it, but it’s really become a staple of comments made by butthurt fanboys when complaining about agendas and trying to disguise their own bigotry.

I’m not at all trying to say that this is you, I’d just warn you off using it.

EDIT: laughing at how this looks off the back of Malthus’ post

I think there’s definitely an SJW “type” that tends to be very intolerant of anything not “progressive” and engages heavily in virtue signalling, without having a solid rational basis for their views. The term probably gets overused, but so does any derogatory word, especially ones with political connotations. Those who use “SJW” for anyone who holds liberal or left-wing views are just being unfair.

Yeah, I don’t get all the hate for Burger King. I’ll take Burger King over McDonald’s any day…

Instead of seeing it as a negative thing, you could see it as a great opportunity to learn how conservatives think, and get to understand them better. Politely try to figure out why they believe what they believe, and feel free to disagree, but also recognize that they have way more life experience than you and their beliefs didn’t develop in a vacuum.

Yoda Is Your Father said:

<div class=“PostQuote”><span class=“Italics”>Originally posted by: <span class=“Bold”>Gaffer Tape</span></span>
Are you doing better?</div>

Actually, since you asked, I’m no the verge of a mental breakdown and seriously considering flying home for a few weeks to clear my head and return to my new L.A. life refreshed and ready for the challenge. I’m not myself right now.

It’s kind of sad that no one ever responded to this post…

Charged how? If it was with a credit card, you can get it cancelled.

I was lucky enough to see the Identities exhibit in person when it was in my area. It was pretty neat! I especially loved seeing the models up close. It’s a pity I wasn’t old enough to fully appreciate all the concept art, but it’s nice to see it again.

Hoop28 said:

Not to start an argument but at least TFA and the “subsequent garbage” had characters that grew and you came to care about, and were more than faces with a single trait.

To each their own, I guess. I never came to care about the ST characters and found them bland and unconvincing (aside from Han in TFA, but he’s not from the ST). I cared much more about the Rogue One characters by the end of the movie, and that was without any major character development or really fleshing them out. I think the difference was in the story. I found the RO characters believable because I found the story believable. I didn’t find the ST characters believable because the story was awful from beginning to end.

But this shows you how subjective this really is. It depends on your expectations and on what you look for.

Sorry to hear that… I’ll say a prayer or two.

Spuffure said:

The 21st century is the best century in modern history and anyone who says otherwise needs a history class.

This depends vastly on your criteria. I’d say it has its benefits, but it’s got a lot working against it too…

OutboundFlight said:

I think the problem is the dull characters. Each has an interesting backstory that should make for an interesting character but watching them interact they all looked so bored. Cassian says he’s been in this fight since he was 6 but we don’t learn why. What motivates him to push further and further towards grey morality, in essence becoming as bad as the Empire to fight the Empire? That should be interesting but it’s never explored.

Maybe this is why I don’t get all the hate for Rogue One… I feel this way about every movie. Movies are too short, I find, to really get attached to the characters or explore them fully. Obviously, some movies do this better than others, but I always need to spend more than 2 hours with characters to really feel an emotional bond. Even still, I felt just as connected to the Rogue One characters as I did to characters from other good movies, so I feel like it worked well for what it was trying to do.

I love it. 😃

Regarding the OP, that’s exactly how I viewed canon back when I cared, before the EU was demoted to Legends. You don’t need a big corporation to tell you how to view canon. It’s all up to you.

The way I thought of it was that all the Star Wars books and movies are “based on real events”–that is, they’re all retellings of what “actually” happened, so some of them might stray more from the “truth” than others, or might introduce new elements, or be merely “inspired” by a true story. Thus, Jar Jar in the prequels is simply an interpretation of the real Jar Jar, and the sequence of events was perhaps modified. That left me free to imagine things as “really” being however I wanted them to be.

I’d rather not see continuous universe shrinking. Maybe one or two of those bounty hunters, but we’ve already seen so much of them in the Clone Wars that I’d prefer that they were only brought into the show if it really makes sense for them to be there. Too many characters seem to show up in these shows just for the sake of being there, without it really contributing to the plot.

I’m kind of glad it didn’t make it into the film, TBH. It would likely have looked quite dated compared to everything else.

There’s about three memes in this entire thread. The rest are just pictures with text. I think y’all are too old for the Internet. 😉

That’s a good point. They definitely have overlap, but they approach storytelling from different angles.

Great post and thread! It’s given me a new appreciation for Star Wars, and a greater appreciation for the continuity of the ST and PT with the OT, even if I still don’t like either.

ZkinandBonez said:

The Lady & the Hat said:

Good food for thought. I feel the Surrealist aspects of Star Wars are lost on most viewers. With so much sci-fi being derivative of Star Wars, it becomes normalized.

Yes, there’s a great irony in the fact that Star Wars, which started with a movie so weird that most studios rejected it, is now virtually the definition of mainstream. Few of the copycat films over the last four decades have understood what made Star Wars work. There’s been a lot of really good sci-fi inspired by the aesthetic and technical achievements of Star Wars, but not the storytelling “philosophy” it used, at least not in many other big budget mainstream films.

Very true. A similar thing happened with the Lord of the Rings. It sparked a new era of copycat fantasy books, but none of them get what made LOTR so great. I find it really interesting that you mention LOTR a few times in connection with Star Wars, because what drew people to them was quite similar I think:

• Basic good vs. evil story;
• Strong universe building–you really feel that the story takes place in a well-developed world in both of them;
• Archetypal characters;
• An internal logic that also doesn’t try to explain too much;
• A gritty (and thus believable) but also very magical world.

Unfortunately, people just try to copy the aliens and spaceships (in SW), or the different races and the magic (in LOTR), and miss almost everything that actually makes these films/books so appealing. Or their imitation suffers from a failure to write a good plot and they rely too heavily on the above-mentioned elements.

I definitely think that the PT and/or Clone Wars (or at least the hype for them) was responsible for getting younger generations interested in Star Wars. I know I probably wouldn’t have taken the interest in the OT that I did were it not for newer content.

Yeah, I think it could do without all the little rooms in the central space. It’s not what makes logical sense for a ancient temple-like building.

I’ve always loved the book that that’s from. Wish I had it.

Thanks! I think I’ll have time to watch them all though before the next season of the Mandalorian comes out. I’m a somewhat obsessive completionist, so I have trouble skipping over things… Very cool poster though.