logo Sign In

Rebel11_38

User Group
Members
Join date
25-Nov-2004
Last activity
11-Jul-2012
Posts
360

Post History

Post
#117778
Topic
Idea & Info: the IMAX film 'Special Effects'
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117778/action/topic#117778
Time
The first link you posted doesn't work.

Okay, so the IMAX version would be more like a 4:3 instead of a 16:9, but what if we took the footage, assuming that someone has it, and overlayed the IMAX footage over the widescreen footage from the '04 dvds or that of say the X0 project? As long as we could mask out any seams, we should be able to have the best of both worlds.

Any thoughts?
Post
#117764
Topic
.: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117764/action/topic#117764
Time
I'll see what I can do about sending you some screen caps Laserman. I'm no savant at video work, so there is a chance that I am doing something wrong. However, I have fiddled with Huffyuv a lot and I cannot get it to match the quality of Lagarith. Maybe you can point out where I'm taking a wrong turn if any.

Zion -

Lagartith is nowhere as slow as MSU. MSU is about 15 times slower than Huffyuv. In my experience with Lagarith it is only about 2-3 minutes slower than Huffyuv. Of course, that tme grows with teh bigger the project. And as far as compression, I think the Lagarith homepage underestimates the compression. I find ithe results to be about half the size of anything that Huffyuv does.
Post
#117763
Topic
Idea & Info: the IMAX film 'Special Effects'
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117763/action/topic#117763
Time

Has anyone here seen or have a copy of the IMAX film Special Effects? For the film they recreated the opening space battle of A New Hope. Maybe this footage could be used to replace the original footage? I don’t know if the scale of the movie would be a problem…I know that someone was auctioning the IMAX cut of episode II on ebay a while back and it occurred to me that it must not be a huge dela to resize the movie to something you can watch on a DVD.

Any thoughts?

If someone does have a copy could you post screenshot comparisons of the 2004 OT and the IMAX Special Effects recreation?

Post
#117701
Topic
.: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117701/action/topic#117701
Time
Lagarith offers excellent compression, the MSU Lossless Codec and FFV1 are the only codecs that I have come across that outperform Lagarith in terms of compression. I would recommend Lagarith for the following reasons however. Lagarith is able to operate in several colorspaces - RGB24, RGB32, RGBA, YUY2, and YV12. For DVD video, the compression is typically only 10-30% better than Huffyuv. However, for high static scenes or highly compressible scenes, Lagarith significantly outperforms Huffyuv.Lagarith is able to outperform Huffyuv due to the fact that it uses a much better compression method. Pixel values are first predicted using median prediction (the same method used when "Predict Median" is selected in Huffyuv). This results in a much more compressible data stream. In Huffyuv, this byte stream would then be compress using Huffman compression. In Lagarith, the byte stream may be subjected to a modified Run Length Encoding if it will result in better compression. The resulting byte stream from that is then compressed using Arithmetic compression, which, unlike Huffman compression, can use fractional bits to encode a symbol. This allows the compressed size to be very close to the entropy of the data, and is why Lagarith can compress simple frames much better than Huffyuv, and avoid expanding high static video. Additionally, Lagarith has support for null frames; if the previous frame is mathematically identical to the current, the current frame is discarded and the decoder will simply use the previous frame again.

The trade-off for this improved compression is speed. On a single processor system, Lagarith is significantly slower than Huffyuv on typical video. For me, Lagarith tends to encode at about half the speed Huffyuv does. Additionally, the decode speed is slower than the encode speed; this is due to the nature of Arithmetic compression and the prediction algorithm. Fortunately, for the situations where the codec offers the most advantages over Huffyuv, the speed difference between the two tends to decrease, and Lagarith can be much faster for simple video. For multiple processor systems, Lagarith 1.3.0 can take advantage of additional processors; while Huffyuv cannot. On such systems Lagarith may be faster than Huffyuv.

This codec was build using the Huffyuv source as a template, and uses some Huffyuv code, most notably the routine to upsample YUY2 video to RGB. The function for upsampling YV12 to YUY2 was taken from AviSynth.

- Taken from the Lagarith homepage.

As far as looking better, I can't explain why it does, but...it does. Using similar settings for each codec, I get a lot aliasing on straight lines when using HuffYUV, especially noticable on the 20th century FOX logo. With Lagarith and the same settings, I don't get that, and I get a smaller file to boot.
Post
#117691
Topic
.: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117691/action/topic#117691
Time
I was curious why you guys are using HuffYUV instead of Lagarith. Lagarith gives both better compression (a smaller file) plus it is better quality. I was just testing three of the more popular lossless codecs, HuffYUV, Lagarith, and MSU, and Lagarith won hands down. MSU produces an even smaller file with no noticable difference in quality bewteen Lagarith and MSU, but MSU is really slow (for 550 frames it took about 12 minutes). The only down side is that Lagarith is slightly slower than HuffYUV. But when it comes to quality and size I would think you would be willing to sacrifice a bit of speed.
Post
#117231
Topic
Anyone willing to share the Making/Behind the Scenes of the Star Wars Radio Dramas?
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117231/action/topic#117231
Time
In the third episdoe the script has C-3P0 telling Artoo that if astromech droids were smart enough to have been given voice boxes then they wouldn't protocol droids as counterparts. When Capt. Antilles asks C-3P0 why he has been paired with an astromech droid C-3P0 tells him that they found little need for protocol droids on this mission.

This was done well before the TPM, and it is insinuated that when C-3P0 was paired with Artoo it was the first time they had met. So, by the time you get to episode III of the radio drama and the first appearance of the droids, they have been working together for only a short time.
Post
#117201
Topic
Anyone willing to share the Making/Behind the Scenes of the Star Wars Radio Dramas?
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117201/action/topic#117201
Time
Thanks for the link Cable. I didn't know what thread that project was under.

The project that he's working on seems a lot like another multimedia DVD that someone put together for the ilovebees.com interactive game they had last year. The game was a tie in to the massively popular Xbox game Halo 2, but it was played across America using pay phones and the internet. I guess if you were able to figure a set of clues it would lead you to a pay phone and to the time it would ring. You would pick it up and it would play a piece of the radio drama they had created. I wasn't involved in the game at all, but someone put together a DVD compiling all of the seperate parts of the Radio Drama, deleted scenes, pictures of some of the players, and original scripts, and I got a copy of it. It was well done. The radio drama itself was several hours long.

It takes a lot of time to build something like that and I understand why you wouldn't necessarily want to give it away after you're done. I guess for me though, if I were to do something as cool as that, I would want to show it off.

Anyway, the ilovebees dvd was a well done project and if baby hum's project is anything like that, then it will be great.
Post
#117152
Topic
Anyone willing to share the Making/Behind the Scenes of the Star Wars Radio Dramas?
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117152/action/topic#117152
Time

I am looking for a copy of the Making/Behind the Scenes of the Star Wars Radio Dramas. I already have all of the original Radio dramas (bought and paid for), but the making of disk only came the collector’s limited edition set which retailed for over a hundred bucks. The extra disk is all I’m interested in getting and I don’t feel like handing out another hundred bucks for one disk.

Someone mentioned a while ago that they were working on Radio Drama DVD that included all 3 sets plus the behind the scenes stuff, but they weren’t going to make it available to the community.

Hopefully someone on this board can help me out. The effort is greatly appreciated.

Setting up a torrent would be cool seeing as I am probably not the only interested in this, or if you want to set up a trade that would be cool too.

Thanks ahead of time everybody.

Post
#116907
Topic
Widescreen problems- VAFPI codec
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116907/action/topic#116907
Time
"Pass on what you have learned."

I had the same problem with an edit I was working on.

Is the source you're using anamorphic widescreen 1.78:1? If so, you're probably running into the same thing I was. With anamorphic widescreen the black bars aren't burned into the movie. The .vob files have a tag attached to them that lets your dvd player know that it is anamorphic widescreen and it adjusts automatically.

Thing is, as long as that tag is still attatched to the file you should be fine. You can perform a simple test to make sure you're okay. All you need to do is export and render about 30 seconds of footage as an .avi or quicktime file. When you open it the black bars should magically appear on the top and bottom and you will see there is no reason to worry. Make sure check your video in full screen mode to check for the bars.

I don't know much about aspect ratios and such, but someone pointed this out to me when I had this question and I am doing my best to pass on that information. I hope this helps.
Post
#113967
Topic
Star Wars: Classic Edition by Ocpmovie (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113967/action/topic#113967
Time
I just got my copy today. I thought I would point out a few things that stuck out to me. I mean in no way to insult the work you did ocp, there were just a few things that didn't look quite right.

In the shot where Luke pulls up in his speeder and (in the 2004 edition) a Ronto walks in front of the camera.

- You combined the LD and DVD here in such so that when the black guy in a robe walks by the scene wipes from LD to DVD repsectively. The only problem with this shot that I saw (besides the color difference which I assume you couldn't get any closer) was that when the guy walks by, there is white silhouette that also passes through the black bars on the top and bottom. This really caught my attention. You may want to do something about that.

Luke's lightsaber aboard the Falcon (the shot that was green on the '04 ed.)

- I don't mean to get on your back here, but it looks bad. The glowing aura is consistently too short, and it doesn't match the following shots of the his lightsaber at all.

"STAR WARS" through Star Destroyer going overhead

- There is some serious artifacting going on in the hollow STAR WARS and the starry background. It doesn't begin to fix itself until the next shot of the Tantive IV coming toward the screen.

And about this last one, I don't know if you can do anything about it, but...

All of the LD footage is too narrow

- Everytime an LD shot comes up, there is about 1/4" black bar on each side of the screen. I don't know if you can resize to fit the dimensions of the DVD, but I thought I would let you know about it in case you hadn't noticed. It is most noticeable when you have LD shot that "morphs" into a DVD shot.

Oh, by the way, I was pretty much just fast forwarding through the DVD as I didn't have time to sit down and watch the whole thing. So, these are just the things I noticed at a glance. I don't want to be nit-picky, but if you want the criticism, then I can oblige.

I do want to say nice work. I think this will be nice to have for all those purists outthere. I hope you don't go killing yourself over the faults I found. I just wanted to make sure you knew about them. I tend to be a perfectionist, and little things like that would drive me crazy.


Stay cool.