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Raul2106

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#245577
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"BUT ANAMORPHIC ENHANCEMENT ALTERS THE MOVIES!!!"
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"The Circle Is Now Complete" - STAR WARS SAGA DVD 30th Anniversary Boxset 2007. Do not believe that the OOT will not be cleaned up, anamorphic and included in that set. Believe in the fact that LFL has fucked us all over before to get us to purchase the same movies repeatedly. I will be buying the boxset and keeping all the obsolete editions to teach my childrens children about great marketing scams.
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#245534
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"BUT ANAMORPHIC ENHANCEMENT ALTERS THE MOVIES!!!"
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All you have to do is look at George Lucas's past marketing history for Star Wars and you already have your answer. Read between the lines. This is a limited edition release because next years release is going to outdo it. It will be digitally remastered and anamorphic. Thus it will not be the original with all the scratches, dirt and grime on the print. My theory was correct in the begining but nobody wants to listen to me because they think I am defending the fact that this is not an anamorphic digitally remastered transfer. IT's a MARKETING GAME... Thats all it is. This "limited edition" is funding next years clean pristine perfectly anamorphic transfer. Lucasfilm did this because fans want the original unaltered trilogy. Next year we will also see the final craptacular versions too. The digital tinkering all ends with the 2007 "The Circle is now Complete" DVD boxset.
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#244732
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Limited Edition Packaging Scans
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Alien features the original theatrical version along with the special editon and it doesn't say anything about remastering that version. The DVDs say they are the "original theatrical version". See this is the reason why Star Wars fans are considered impossible to please. You want anamorphic? You got it! The 2004 editions give you all the anamorphic enhancement and craptacular remastering you could ever ask for. The theatrical versions are EXACTLY what they are supposed to be. Honestly, this release has something in it for everybody especially those who didn't buy the 2004 boxset. Next year when we get the 30th Anniversary boxset people will be complaining again so we should all look forward to that!


Here is the specs for the Alien (2 disc) to prove my point. Notice there is nothing here about "anamorphic". Also you will notice that the original theatrical version is not listed as digitally remastered either.

Features:
Disc 1
Full-Length Audio Commentary by Director Ridley Scott, Writer Dan O'Bannon, Executive Producer Ronald Shusett, Editior Terry Rawlings, Actors Sigourney Weaber, Tom Skerrit, Veronica Cartwright, Harry Dean Stanton and John Hurt (for both versions
1979 Theatrical Version
2003 Director's Cut (Digitally Remastered)
Introduction by Ridley Scott

Disc 2
Behind-the-Scenes Featurettes, Including - "Star Beast: Developing the Story," "The Visualists: Direction and Design," "Truckers in Space: Casting." "The Eighth Passenger: Creature Design, Sigourney Weaver Screen Test, "The Chestbuster: Creature Design
Multi-Angle Scene Studies
Still Photo Galleries
Deleted and Extended Scenes, and More!
Video:
Widescreen 2.35:1 Color

I am as big a fan as the rest of you. I have done some fan editing too. For an "official" DVD I don't have a problem with the theatrical release. Star Wars in not the only film to present it's theatrical version in a non-anamorphic state and that is my entire point. I am not saying that I wouldn't appreciate anamorphic enhancement with some clean up. However this is acceptable in my opinion and if we do not get a remastering next year thats fine too. Lucasfilm did give us THE ORIGINAL THEATRICAL VERSIONS. Clearly these are better transfers than the 1993 Laserdiscs and the bootlegs. My technical knowledge on the subject is what is motivating my position. Obviously Lucasfilm felt that the original trilogy did not warrent ANY enhancement. Lucas didn't touch it because he knew that SOME would consider anamorphic enhancement and print clean up as an alteration. I don't blame him because everybody is a critic and wants things their own specific way. At least by releasing it as is he cannot be bashed because he didn't present the original versions. Oh wait a second... THIS IS A STAR WARS FORUM so no matter what he does people are going to bash him to hell for one reason or another.
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#244690
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Limited Edition Packaging Scans
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Actually you are clueless... "I think most people could have been pretty pleased with a nice, new anamorphic transfer of an existing print." - Karyudo


You wanted the "original" theatrical versions not a "nice, new anamorphic transfer of an existing print."
See this is the reason why Star Wars fans are considered impossible to please. I know all about the technical side of the argument. The fact of the matter is anamorphic or not this transfer is pretty good.
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#244165
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Limited Edition Packaging Scans
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What some people don't understand is that there were imperfections in the original theatrical presentations of these films. The imperfections support the look and feel. Personally I think this was the best way Lucas could have released the original trilogy. Cleaning the print and taking out all those imperfections, along with adding anamorphic enhancement would have made it like another Special Edition release. I know many of the people here at originaltrilogy.com and other forums disagree. The fact of the matter is if you want what you got in theaters this is it. If you want pristine perfect anamorphic with no imperfections you want OUTE which stands for Original Unaltered Trilogy Enhanced. Perhaps you will get that for the 30th Anniversary?
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#243887
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First Impressions of the OOT ...
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Think about how each new release gives everybody new things to talk about. Really it is quite an exciting time to be a Star Wars fan. I love all of Star Wars that is why I do not like to see people who don't hate the 2004 editions being attacked. Originaltrilogy.com is a site that is devoted to film preservation. It's a beautiful thing. DVDActive, particularly their site administrator gave the OOT a favorable review yet bashed everybody who said there was nothing wrong with the release being non-anamorphic. I stuck up for another person who was simply pointing out that no matter what people are always going to be unhappy with Lucas. I perfer the OOT but enjoy the 2004 editions too. Now we can at least legally choose which version we want to watch. It's great having both.
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#243870
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First Impressions of the OOT ...
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I just got mine in the mail today. Since I do not have a widescreen television right now I have to say that these transfers look great on a regular 4:3 screen. The colors are softer than than the 2004 editions and the picture is about as good as you can get for not being anamorphic. These are far better than the DE Laser Discs. I was banned from DVDActive today because I stood up for someone who had a different opinion than the site administrator regarding this release. here are my comments from DVDActive:

We are simply being given the chance to see the original trilogy on DVD. The limited release factor gives incentive to those who do not believe the originals will be featured in the big 30th Anniversary boxset. Everybody knows the 30th Ann set will have even more alterations and things that will piss off people like GOULDl. I look forward to every new Star Wars DVD release and view Lucas's changes like a man's personal evolution as a film maker. Don't get me wrong Lucas is a business man and knows where his bread is buttered. I truly think that these current DVD releases are like Lucas saying: "I'm giving fans what they have been crying for since the begining of the DVD format." If you stop and consider when the DVD format was "new" anamorphic widescreen was not the standard. Therefore it is entirely reasonable for Lucas to be giving us these editions preserving the classic look and standard of DVDs we would have gotten had they been released in 1997. It's the equivalent of say Criterion releasing the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD. A lot of times Criterion simply ported over their laserdisc transfers directly to DVD and look at how Criterion holds some of the most sought after movie titles. Another way this is rationalized is when you have the original trilogy packaged with the 2004 releases. The Alien movies have done it. If you look at The Alien Quadrilogy you have your choice of either the original theatrical releases or the SE. My point is that Lucas will continue to alter his movies until he feels he has fully realized his vision. Nobody can fault him for that because that is something few people get to do in life. Lucas should be commended for has passion and be praised for striving to bring us the full picture. The originals will never be forgotten but I do not see the changes in Star Wars as negative disrespect for the theatrical releases, but rather as more pieces to the ever evolving puzzle that is Star Wars. Someday Lucas will accomplish his goal in this lifetime and people will still complain. I for one will continue to purchase the various releases until the circle is finally complete.
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#236619
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Idea: Vanishing Son TV Movies & Series Preservation
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Remember back in the mid-nineties when Universal had THE ACTION PACK. A series of made for TV movies for prime-time television to put themselves on the map? Included in THE ACTION PACK was Hurcules, Team Knight Rider, William Shatner’s TekWar and Vanishing Son. Vanishing Son was an epic tale about a young man Jian Wa and his brother Waigo. The brothers were freedom fighters from China who fought their way to the United States in search of a better life. THE ACTION PACK broadcasted four feature films and then later Vanishing Son was comissioned for one season of TV. The one season consisted of 13 Fugitive-like episodes showcasing Jian Wa on the run for a murder he never comitted. I would like to do a DVD set preserving the four films and 13 episodes. I have a couple of the movies and some of the episodes on old worn out VHS. If someone out there happens to have HQ transfers of the Vanishing Son material the help would be appreciated. I intend to put tons of time into this project. Vanishing Son must be preserved!http://www.geocities.com/russellwongpage/russdrool1.jpg