Radi0n

adywan said:

I think i'm going to leave it the way it is. I think you would see a slight edge of the steps but it's so dark in that area it wouldn't really show up anyway.

The thought had crossed my mind.

adywan said:

And the pylon is an actual set piece and is just a slight different design. Nothing to fix there. The floor in both chambers would be flat and it would indeed be a figure 8.

Great :)

So, uhm...  Kenkraly already left? As in, not coming back? Why's that?
Must've missed that post... 

Sluggo, you just confirmed the entire thing is faulty and needs fixing :)

Vaderios, I believe the room you are referring to in which Vader and Veers had their discussion, is a different room altogether. In fact, it's probably a hallway instead.
Check out my screens.
First Vader is seen on the left, after which he indeed turns 180°, but then walks away from the camera, and takes a right turn behind a corner, which is the exact same corner Piett passes when walking up to Vader.
Not to mention the next scene, after the space exterior shot, then showing him immediately exiting his chamber.

http://img256.imageshack.us/i/vaderroom1.png/

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8984/vaderroom2.png

http://img829.imageshack.us/f/veershallway1.png/

http://img715.imageshack.us/f/veershallway2.png/

EDIT: euroherbal, I still support your theory. I too believe Vader walked into a completely separate room, close to the hallway where he spoke to Piett, which is shaped like a figure 8. That room would both hold the hologram platform, and his meditation chamber.

Maybe they had to make more room for Palpatine's big nose :)

euroherbal, that actually makes perfect sense! :)
Then that would mean that the indentation in between the empty an "not-empty" pylons, is actually a small path leading directly into the chamber, much like you could imagine from the below shot.

EDIT: ady's behind the scenes shot actually supports euroherbal's theory.
Think about it. Both spaces have a black circular floor pattern, on top of a bigger, white one. If the room is an 8-shape, that would mean the 8-shape has an all-white floor, with two black circular shapes, one in each round. 

ImperialFighter said:

I've just noticed in the 3 tops shots I showed on the previous page, that it looks like the whole of the bottom step of the 'chamber' prop is itself 'raised up' a little with an angled bottom section.

Your final 2 shots seem to indicate that much for sure.
It's as if the chamber's base declines inward at the bottom.
Almost makes it seem like a mechanism similar to a car crank.
EDIT: wouldn't that mean that, even with the camera angle being below ground level, the chamber base would definitely be visible in the side shot?

euroherbal said:

Look closely, my friends: see how the bottom wall is at the beginning of a ramp? :) That's why we don't see the chamber's rim in the next shot: it's below eye level.

Mistery solved!!! :)

So you're saying nearly the entire room is elevated, safe for the sides, near the walls?

ImperialFighter said:

Ziz - you may be right, but I'm still not 100% convinced.  The angles are deceiving, but I think the gap between the 2 props might just allow for it to be seen in the 'side onwards' shots too. 

Exactly. He comes down the steps from his chamber, takes one more, and then up the platform. If it's only one step away in between, it should show in the side view as well, even if ever so slightly.

Hey guys, I hate to say this, especially since I read along more than I contribute, but I disagree.

ImpFighter is right. If you watch the clip in motion, it becomes very clear Darth Vader walks off the steps, takes one single step (ONE!) in between, and then moves on to the platform.
So there's no way the platform could have been that far away from his chamber, and the wide shot indeed should have shown a step or two.
If they truly are out of frame, and that's for ady to decide, then Ziz is right and I leave it at that. But if they aren't, then it should be showing. 

I'm at work right now, so don't have time to brighten the picture or anything like that, but I hope it is clear enough as it is.
 

I stopped reading after his post requesting the community to not bash on George Lucas, and got laughing cramps when he said the 2004 DVD releases were the good ones.

Thanks for the laugh Frink. I hope he realizes what he said before vbangle goes nuts on him. Then again... :)

By the way, a merry christmas to all of you, and a happy new year
(just in case I don't pop up before 2011). 

TV's Frink said:

Radi0n said:

Asteroid-Man said:

I was going to save this for the DVD, but considering it's Christmas, here's the trailer for Project: Lightshow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzH-umifowg

Same here.

You were going to save it for the DVD too?

*shrug*

Once again Frink, you saw right through me. *disappointed sigh*

Asteroid-Man said:

I was going to save this for the DVD, but considering it's Christmas, here's the trailer for Project: Lightshow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzH-umifowg

Same here. Sort of mixed feelings, but almost overwhelming curiosity. If you plan on doing this, like vaderios said, you better be ready to pull some serious CG work out of your sleeve ;)

Handzzz said:

adywan said:

Damn. I just wrote up a whole reply to many of the questions since the Yoda clip and this bloody netbook crashed just as i was about to post it. I give up

Ehm... Pen and pencil and paper? :D

Only one way to find out. Will you take the honours, Lemonstein? lol :)

rockin said:

Right now, he is trying to just get it 'done' and he has other worries like the recent GOUT problem he discovered in the other thread.

I'm intrigued. What problem?

vaderios said:

In General lines it looks the same. I'm wondering why the light are coming always from the same place even the image is flipped! ;)

Gosh darnit, he's right! :) Never thought of that.
Let's just assume ady has already fixed all light and shadow drop errors :)

Tallguy said:

Um...  I'm playing X-wing again...

Can't beat the X-Wing series, they're the greatest :)

I personally prefer 2 and 3. Great ideas Monro! :)

Even better :) I notice a hand on the left. Assuming that's a real custom prop, do you have some more info or a link on its creator?

I love it! :)
And if you won't, it should at least be a DVD special feature ;)

adywan said:

It's a sad day indeed to see Kersh leave this mortal realm. I just hope i can do his film justice.

Sure you will.

Leguman, you're a genius!
We could have Zoidberg appear before Luke in ESB!! :)

That would actually make a cool cover as well, with some tinkering here and there. Yeah Sluggo, there! I said it =)
A three-disc-box trilogy cover or whatchyamacallit :p

Haha lol Leguman :p

Yes they did, this one:

But I'm pretty sure the whole idea of the disc covers was to have the logo represent the era and the film itself, not something that transpired hundreds of years before...