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trillary dump said:

01:33:26 frame 11 - hyperspace jump and the wipe to the Theed palace

To give you an idea this is how I already have that shot looking:

I never finished it but it isn’t hard to do just very tedious manual work to make a mask for each frame (I should point out for anyone unfamiliar with it that it’s 65 frames or so we’re talking about, so not very many and manageable). There’s no point in scanning that just for the small improvement in quality, that frame is about 96% HDTV and 2-3% unpscaled laserdisc with the rest blended pixels of the two.

Okay well with the 35mm scan now dead, I guess I better do some renders.

I was up to working on disappearing the bridge - this is how it looks:

What I need to do is go through and manually make a mask for every frame leading up to that frame.

ZigZig said:

As mentionned by several people, there is also lot of digital artefacts on the HDTV transfer (edge enhancement too strong, colors and contrasts very degraded), plus the lack of subtitles, so the HDTV transfer is better than nothing, but it is still a poor transfer, and the scan of the entire 35mm reels is probably essential.

Well the print looks a lot more like the HDTV version than it does the Bluray. But yes it was a poor transfer. At the end of the day having those shots scanned in 4K is not going to solve the problem.

Even if we are many to wish it (Chewie, Bobson, Trillary, me…), I do not think that it is worth it to put the health of Poita in danger, or to transform his house into a Russian mushrooms invasion, if the result is a damaged scan that won’t fit a damaged HDTV transfer.

There are other issues as well. You can’t just scan a few shots when the scanner isn’t being used, as the film is hazardous everything it touches would need to be thoroughly cleaned immediately after use, the fluid to clean the film probably can’t be reused (and it’s very expensive which is why it would typically be filtered and reused), everyone will need to wear hazmat suits, etc. It’s just not worth all that.

In short, IMHO, it is better to throw these reels in the trash and consider a complete scan when the opportunity will arise again.

Anyway, thank you SO MUCH, Poita, for everything you do!

Yep!

I really don’t think it’s worth worrying about doing that footage, not simply for a reconstruction of the theatrical version, better that we get another print and start fresh.

I can encode a theatrically accurate reconstruction with that footage upscalled from LD capture, it doesn’t look great but that footage is dark and low resolution and only a few seconds anyway so it doesn’t matter too much, it certainly doesn’t look as bad as the footage inserted into the Hellraiser III bluray or the footage inserted into Exorcist III director’s cut bluray. It’s really not worth getting just that footage from this print IMHO.

Poita said OK so here it is-

https://we.tl/t-eyzjTRA6Nq
https://we.tl/t-QbGtJE4xya
https://we.tl/t-uJp2DkyP3u

1080p at bluray bitrate. It’s 7-zipped with no password and a checksum file in case you get a bad part.

And before you do that do you want to give me a donation maybe because you’re a big big Disney fan? 😉 Seriously guys I must pay poita back the $230 soon or that’s money he can’t spend on his own endeavours, if anyone can help send me a message. I will give you full previews of my scans in return.

Here’s a screenshot-

Please guys I encourage everyone to send poita a donation if you can, even if you’re disappointed about TPM (I’m disappointed too). But the ESB print is fantastic and desperately needs saving! 😃 And there are other promising opportunities to do with SW as well, so don’t let this discourage the donations, it’s just a small setback.

It’s a commercial font, but yes it’s available.

If poita gives the OK I can upload a HQ encode of the entire reel.

Chewielewis said:

That is a shame. You wouldnt think film restoration would be so hazardous to ones health.

Actually there’s lots about celluloid that is toxic. The silver-applicated soundtracks contain toxic carcinogenic chemicals, magnetic soundtracks are toxic as well, certain cleaning fluids are toxic, the fumes from vinegar syndrome are toxic, and it wouldn’t surprise me if projector oil is toxic as well. And let’s not forget that Nitrate can self-ignite if not stored below 20°C, and even when it’s not self-igniting it can be giving off toxic poisonous fumes simply from decomposition. When it does catch fire the smoke is poisonous.

If anyone’s interested in donating towards the scanning, I need to pay poita back about $230 for a recent expense that he paid for me.

Thanks everyone!

dwalkerdon23 said:

I wonder if anyone can sync the Goldeneye Laserdisc’s 2.0 PCM Track to this scan? That would be a great alternative to the Optical track (i’m not sure if the scanning facility is equipped with Dolby SR Noise reduction, the Optical track would sound a lot better if it was applied!!)

The optical track is in Russian, but there is the theatrical dts audio available.

I hope to be in a position to get Lion King scanned in the new year, right now there’s no funding to do it. Once done that will complete the renaissance period, although it will still be desirable to get English prints of BATB and Little Mermaid of course. There are still some prints ahead of it Lion King, so realistically it may still be a while before I’m in a position to get it scanned. I could get a quote if you’re interested, but won’t be cheap.

Download link sent to a bunch of people, if I’ve missed anyone let me know.

I am giving out a FULL REEL preview of our scan. Note that this version is watermarked, the un-watermarked version is for donors only please do not redistribute that version. Here it is:

https://we.tl/t-SaFLqr3scb (link valid for SEVEN days only).

This is from the second print’s Reel 2 (the only reel from that print we scanned). It contains the “I wanna be like you” song and you can see - no splices in this version.

We have so far scanned the first 2 reels of the German print, Oops my mistake, I think we only have an un-calibrated test scan of those reels so far. If anyone is interested in helping to get the German version preserved please send a donation to Dr. Cooper we would both really appreciate it, and we can show you a preview from reel 2 of the German print. 😃

Thanks again to everyone who donated towards this to make it happen!

Not for this title specifically, but I do still need donations for Disney on 35mm. I’m currently making a public preview of Jungle Book from the 2nd print’s Reel 2. After that I will make a preview of poita’s Alice in Wonderland scan… I think I’ll prepare just one reel for a public preview for the time being. We’re hoping to get another AIW print (a German print) scanned soon, although that may still be a few months away before we’re able but we will get there. And there’s another print I need to get scanned very soon, and I’ll let everyone know about it when I can!

So been a while since I’ve updated on this. I can confirm we scanned Reel 2 from the alternate English print and it looks, and more importantly sounds, glorious. We have also access to a German print that will be transferred I believe entirely, so we’ll have the complete German version of this film as well. Contributions towards scanning it would be most welcome and should go directly to Dr. Cooper who is handling that scan.

I can’t say really, but it looks quite good from those screenshots.

The saturation definitely isn’t “low”, it’s just that Disney has completely adulterated these movies on digital releases. The black point is a little too low for my liking, but otherwise it’s looking really really good.

I don’t have enough to scan Tech mono unfortunately, a few pledged donations didn’t come through. However we shouldn’t need to scan it anyway as the Kostal print still has plenty of colour and also it doesn’t have any arc burn so it won’t need to be cropped.

I was asked by a member about the Sleeping Beauty print. I can say it’s an IB Technicolor print, and near mint condition. I have another print available but it is on faded Kodak SP and probably not worth scanning given how good the Tech print is. Preview of ALL reels are available to donors, and yes you can still contribute to these scans if you would like!

Soon I will be arranging the next Disney film or films to be scanned. Thanks so much to everyone who has donated to my projects it really means a lot and has enabled me to get a lot more scanned than I ever imagined!

Guys we have access to the following prints but will lose the access very, very soon. If anyone is interested in them get in contact, they are not a part of my agenda:

• Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
• 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
• Bedknobs and Broomsticks
• Mary Poppins
• The Sound of Music (incomplete, reel 2 missing)
• Die Hard (mint cond.)
• Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (mint cond.)

Condition of most of those prints varies from very good to mint. There are some I personally don’t think warrant the expense of scanning like Mary Poppins because it has a great HD release already, but if someone wants to pay the scanning bill it can be done.

darkspire17 said:

i know they cost alot, im not new to film preservation, ive attempted to buy and transfer film before, i was saying i would love to see it uploaded once everything has been payed for, i cant donate as i dont make that sort of money

I’m not having a go at you or anyone, my point was just that this stuff doesn’t come cheap at all and poita definitely needs some financial help on this one. These films aren’t going to scan themselves if poita can’t afford the bills. The price of these films is very high - it’s more money than I’ve ever spent all at once buying film, and I currently have some very expensive films - so I can only imagine in horror at the financial pressure that poita would be feeling at the moment. My message isn’t directed just to you, I want to do my part to remind people to please donate if they’re interested in this project - anything from $2 to $20,000+ would be accepted.

Speaking about this, I know that I’m not just speaking for myself when I say that we get questions all the time from people asking “when are you going to upload this”, or “can I get the raw scan now”. And while we all appreciate people’s enthusiasm for these projects, it is often missing the point of what we’re doing with our projects. They are to preserve film. It gets tricky to manage people’s expectations. I still have more Disney films to organise to scan and no funds at all at the moment myself, so I know all too well how the financial strain can bottleneck the work.

Anyway, to recap the SW documentary films cost €2,300 (!) to purchase so I would encourage everyone interested in them to think about what they could afford to donate towards the project. You would be supporting poita’s very important and very very generous preservation & restoration work.

@darkspire17 these things cost $$ when poita says he can get time on a scanner he doesn’t mean that it’s free. If you would like to see these released I would encourage you to send a donation.

We’ve scanned Fantasia, but the audio still needs to be transferred. That should be done soon.

You guys definitely got lucky! Well done!