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- #1094624
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- TITANIC 35mm Preservation! (a WIP)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1094624/action/topic#1094624
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The colours on the previews are not right. They should look somewhat warmer.
The colours on the previews are not right. They should look somewhat warmer.
Use postimage.io and copy the ‘Markdown’ code.
Yes, it’s a preview file I cut it.
Reel2 Preview:
To those of you in the east coast of the USA who are interested, there is a “free” 35mm screening of the film at New York City’s School of the Visual Arts Theatre.
Time: Sat, September 16, 2017, 7:30 PM – 11:30 PM EDT
That’s awesome - a FREE event!! If you go let me know how the projection compares to the scan, I’m particularly interested in the dark details and the colour temperature. I saw a Fox print recently that appears to show more details in the shadow than the US print, it could be that acetate-base prints have more shadow detail over polyester. Or it could be that the preview file doesn’t do full justice to the scan itself.
My name’s Dale and I’ve literally just signed up on OT.com, so I could comment and join in on this discussion about this TITANIC preservation project - what a bloody marvelous project it is! I’ve just this evening seen the preview video, and cannot get over how fantastic it looks.
Glad to have you here.
Would it be possible to release an uncleaned, raw version as well?
The release will have pretty minimum work done.
I’ve been collecting individual 35mm film cells from this release (pre-2012) for years, 5 frames per strip, so it’d be a TREAT to see this entire film released as a fan preservation project, with colour corrections and cleaning up done to match the actual physical film frame colours.
I’d rather you didn’t buy film strips from cutters as they destroy prints. A lot of them come from trailers and not prints (thankfully), but I would love to be able to scan the July-release trailer if we can find one. 😃
Soupdrinker0 and titanic have each donated some more funds towards this. It brings the total up to €1000 (it was actually a little below that). Thanks go to both of them for their amazing support.
Some more donations were received over the last few days from ahughes03, Soupdrinker0, titanic, and one other person. Thanks go to all of you. We should be able to begin scanning soon.
Please consider donating to this if you haven’t already done so.
A donation was received from pleasehello - thanks!
Second donation has been received from Anonymous. Thanks!!
The first donation has been received from slumberdore! Many thanks.
Test scan and screenshots added to OP.
I need donations to get this scanned, contact me if you wish to help!
I post this just as an update if someone is interesred. I found that the same eBay user that’s auctioning BATMAN also has all this prints for sale:
BATMAN (1989)
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Current eBay listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/253055833635
He’s dropped the price of Batman down to $800 with free shipping. I don’t think it will last much longer unsold at that price. If you guys want to scan the film I suggest buying that print. This film has been talked about for a while, and you’re far better off spending a little extra on a good print. Scanning will be about $650 if there’s interest.
The last prints of Batman I saw come up for sale on eBay all sold for around $800 and weren’t in “like new” condition. Based on that I would expect you will get most or maybe all of the purchase price back on sale of the print.
If there’s interest in buying the print send me a message. I can’t put money into it as I’m concentrated on Disney, we need one person who wants to put up the $800 or two people to go in 400 each.
That’s a great find if the condition of the print is accurate. But he lists it as “like new” and says that one reel is from a different probably UK print and faded - that’s not “like new”.
Yeah, focus on stuff you want to do Ray. The Mummy wouldn’t be my first choice for a scanning project, but I don’t feel the need to tell everyone that - what projects people want to create is up to them. We have access to some very rare prints if you want to scan them, as I mentioned in the other thread. 😃
Just to remind people, the IB technicolor prints I have access to: Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Lady and the Tramp, and yes 20,000 Leagues if there’s interest in that are all in excellent condition. We won’t find them in better condition to scan.
This is why I need help, I don’t want to loose the opportunity to scan prints in excellent condition. They will need very little digital clean up for release. If we loose an opportunity like this we could spend years looking for prints in similar condition.
And I also need more hard drives, I haven’t spent any donated money on hard drives, it’s all been used on scanning costs. If anyone wants to help with storage, I need to get 2x WD Gold 6TB as soon as I can afford it (price is $253 ea) plus another external 8TB sometime ($200).
Great news: Project can now resume!
Right, that’s why I told you we can scan 20,000 Leagues if you come up with the scanning fee. There’s lots of films that can be scanned if someone pays for it, but it’s not going to automatically happen.
I’m focused at the moment on Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty (both IB Tech). I may also have an opportunity for Lady and the Tramp on IB Tech as well. If anyone is interested in helping funding is desperately needed!! Soupdrinker has already been an amazing help, as have a few other people. 😃
IB Tech prints are the closest to a negative that we can access. They are far superior to LPP, and also show improvements over other stocks of their era.
My focus is on the animations. I can get 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea scanned if you want to pay the fees (about $800 or so all up).
Okay guys, I’m currently working on getting a number of IB Tech Disney prints scanned at 4K. IB Tech prints will be much better quality than Kodak prints, especially LPP prints. At the moment I’m getting choked by funding unfortunately - it’s difficult to find prints in good condition given their age. I need to buy at least one new hard drive soon, and pay some other bills associated with all this stuff. If anyone can help out please message me there are some opportunities I don’t want to see lost. 😃
We may also have the opportunity to scan at least one IB Tech print in Europe on an Arri 6K soon as well.
Message sent!
This is going to be a really great project! For those not as film-savvy, this is a UK print on Fujifilm. It’ll have a different look to the US prints that were on Kodak LPP. Just like Star Wars on Technicolor looked different to Star Wars on Kodak, and Titanic on acetate looks different to Titanic on polyester. What a treat this will be to have the domestic UK version preserved!
Here is the same video posted in the OP (made up of three shot clips joined together) from a projection of the print, but with no flicker reduction etc as applied to the one uploaded by Williarob:
Thanks go to the very generous anonymous donor. The funding goal has been met!
The “import version” doesn’t have the theatrical soundtrack only the 5.1 up-mix.
We have the opportunity to borrow and scan a Cinderella IB Technicolor print in the US. The cost of scanning this is $370. Total scanning costs are about $600. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you guys that’s a bargain, we don’t have to purchase, rent, or even ship the print.
And, the print is in EXCELLENT CONDITION. Probably better condition than my print. And, unlike mine, it can be scanned as soon as NEXT WEEK!
As some of you know I have a print as well and it can be scanned in the future. But this is a limited opportunity to get a print that’s in top condition scanned, and that may end up making scanning mine (which will cost more) unnecessary.
And more great news, after this is scanned we can rent Lady and the Tramp from the same source for scanning. And after that is scanned we can rent Sleeping Beauty too. And more!
Begin your pledges/donations, please!
Current list of generous donors:
Donations so far: $550 / 600
An exclusive early release will be made available to donors, hopefully followed by a wider “myspleen” release at some point later this year/early next year.
Short test scan done on the first couple of minutes of Reel 1:
It’s heavily compressed, but hopefully shows the condition the print is in. Remember that heads and tails of reels are where most of the wear usually is.
Screenshots:
Cinderella is a two-phase project. Only donors will be given access to the phase 1 release.
Phase 1:
Phase 2:
Thanks to Soupdrinker0 the scan for Titanic is fully funded! Of course doesn’t doesn’t cover other expenses like postage or hard drives, etc, but I’m really grateful to the forum and all involved.
Thanks to everyone who donated, but especially to alexp120 and Soupdrinker who between them covered 90% of the scan cost!
You can still donate if you wish to help with the other costs, so from this point on donations can be directed to me rather than cpalmer2k. A very special thanks also to cpalmer2k for agreeing to handle the scanning funds. You can also donate to my other projects and that will be really appreciated.
I will have a new video up today showing new footage.
The scan is progressing, we have so far the first three reels scanned, and hopefully the other seven will be done very soon.
Keep the donations coming guys, it’s not fair to make Soupdrinker pay for your pledges! Plus, if we get more than $375 I can put the money towards improving the release in various ways.
Thanks again to everyone who has donated, and to cpalmer2k for handling the funds!!