Yeah I know we need to scan higher than 2K, just letting people know what we have. We’re not going to get 4K detail out of the print. Would they have produced prints straight from the digital files, or do they output a negative digitally to strike prints from?
Does anyone know did the entire film go through a digital intermediate? Because if so it would have be done at 2K (2048x1556 if it was done anamorphically). For any effect shot the resolution will not be higher than that, and it’s possible they rendered some of them at lower resolutions if they were particularly complicated CGI scenes (the entire Toy Story film was rendered at 1536x922 for example).
I’ve updated the OP, we’re currently up to about $950 in pldges. I won’t put the list here publicly because some people like to remain anonymous, but it’s a very promising start.
Money is one thing that determines what projects go ahead and what ones don’t. As ZigZig has (I think) already send a hard drive specifically for this I can also just put in the $270 towards the costs instead of buying an 8tb, if need be. We only need 10 people to go in for an amount in that region and the whole scan will be funded - or we could get 7-8 people who can afford $200-300 and probably make up the rest through smaller donations. The small donations do add up quickly actually.
As for the film, it’s the first SW film I saw in the cinema. It may not be a great SW film, but hey it followed on from the relative silliness of Jedi, and at least it had a story to tell unlike the more recent Disney iterations. It’s also a glimpse into what might have been if Lucas hadn’t given up on directing to focus on merchandising.
So not counting ZigZig, I have about $300 in pledges so far. See the OP for the running pledge total.
$2500 is about what I had in mind, and I’m sure that just includes the scanning and prep work, there is also the cost to rent and ship the print.
Well in any case I can get an 8tb drive for this project, so storage is sorted at least for a single-flash scan. If someone else wants to contribute the remainder of the storage we can get it triple-flashed.
We will need some substantial donations to get this done though, so let me know if you’re willing to donate to this and how much and we’ll see if we can raise enough to scan or not. I’ll just take pledges for now and if we get enough then move to donations. 😃
Interesting that you prefer Seagate. I’ve had two Seagates fail on me in the past few years.
Yeah it makes sense, the drive needs to be fast enough not to choke on the data rate coming from the scanner. The only issue I have with the Seagate is that it only has a 3 year warranty, WD Gold drives have a 5 year warranty. Still though on price comparison it can’t be beaten.
Ironwolf drives are on special this week:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822179003
Are they better then SkyHawk?
Yes, although you purchase a hard drive to loan if you wanted (you’d have to send the money of course). Poita will let us know soon precisely what we need, if we can use some external drives then storage would already be sorted.
On the other hand, with the cleaning that gets done we may not really need the IR damage matte anyway (we would only need it for damage, not for dirt).
Unfortunately we need internal drives to cover the storage. The scanner records straight to them. So that’s our first obstacle! We don’t need that space permanently though, theoretically we can compress it down to whatever size we want after we get the scan back… but if we want it triple-flashed it has to be delivered raw. I hope that makes sense! 😛 This won’t be a cheap project if it goes ahead. 😃
This project is dead. I’m very sorry to all who donated. We will need to find a new print and start a new project for TPM 35mm to happen. Everything below is archived for transparency.
(old) Update: Scanning will go ahead (YAY!) If this project interests you please send a donation to poita, even a small donation is appreciated (see below). The full cost of this project will be around $2500+.
Honestly, ever dollar helps, and it doubles as an easy gauge as to whether people really want a project, or if they would just ‘like’ to see it.
That really goes for anyone’s projects, a buck or two or five is always appreciated, as much for the sentiment as for the offset of costs. A lot of people who work on these various projects put hundreds or even thousands of hours of their free time into making them happen, call in favours, take risks and spend more of their own money than is even vaguely sensible.
When you see people chip in anything to help, it really, well, helps. There have been many times sitting alone at 3am that you feel like giving up, looking at an A/B roll of frame #114003 for glitches you may have missed, or logging a missing frame, and then you get a ping with a message that someone in another timezone on the other side of the planet has donated five bucks, and an accompanying message that the movie held a special place in their life for their own special reasons, and you get a second wind - it keeps you going, and reminds you of your own passion for this stuff, and you keep plugging away it.
Here is a 35mm Trailer scan, this is Jetrell Fo’s trailer and he very kindly allowed me to share it:
There is also a different scan of the same trailer shared by Williarob here.
You may have noticed in poita’s thread poita has the opportunity to scan the SE Trilogy in 4K triple-flashed with a damage matte. There is also a Phantom Menace print available that can be scanned at the same facility. To be scanned triple-flashed with damage matte would require 21TB of storage, scanned single-flashed can be done with 4TB. The prints (Phantom Menace and the SEs) and the scanner are only available for a short window, so it’s now or never if we wish to get this scanned. It is about $400 to ship the print (there’s also a rental charge).
It’s a pity you’re in South Africa… but we can always get it transferred if you’re interested in sending it transcontinental. 😉
I have no idea how “rare” the trailer is (by that I would mean its actual usage in Cinemas I suppose), but I can say that our scanner owns it and scanned it for us and you can thank cpalmer2k for paying for the scan (not overly expensive for a trailer, but still an expense and generous of him to do so). It’s a pity it’s the only trailer we had access to, I’d love to do some more. 😃
I gave it a very quick colour correction in the direction of the projected print colours which are warmer than the scan (and in some places you see faces turn piss-yellow). I don’t plan to push the yellows it as far as it actually appears when projected, I don’t think people would accept that, but maybe a tad warmer than what you’re seeing in the Trailer.
I guess I don’t poke in this subforum very often. JP3 seemed like an odd enough choice that I took a closer look. I still don’t get why we’re preserving everything, but if the mods don’t have a problem with it, by all means, continue.
Given your username, why not back the Living Daylights project?
Is there something wrong with the existing legal official release?
That’s a fair enough question, I can’t comment personally on the Bluray, but we do know that the original Jurassic Park was completely f*cked with… and JP3 is a less silly then the other sequels (the T-Rex in San Diego for example is unforgivable… it doesn’t even make sense that InGen made multiple tyrannosauruses in the first place when they only wanted one for their park).
Trailer:
I also received donations from both Warstorck and freedomland. Thanks guys!
Donation received from FrankB - Thanks!
Some of the infamous missing detail on the 2005 “restoration”:
Of course, I want to report him and have the videos removed, but I have to affirm, “UNDER PENALTY OF PURGURY: I am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed,” which leads me to the question: do comparison videos meet that requirement, counted as transformative works that allow me to even place the claim to begin with?
Probably not, and it appears that you rescinded any rights you may have had by putting this in the description:
“I own nothing.”
It’s missing as first mentioned here. Ultimately we’ll need to get it re-scanned from a second print as mentioned in the OP (see “phase 2”).
Thanks go to hombredesilla for his donation!
Here is a preview of Reel 2:
Unfortunately it’s missing a short scene, so I patched it from a 2nd 35mm scan. The second scan is not quite the same quality as someone else made it, but see if you can tell where it is been patched? 😛 The unedited clip is here.
Neat!
Yes, we should be able to get onto it soon. I’ll need some donations to make it happen of course, so feel free to send me a private message if you’re interested in making a pledge towards the scanning cost!
Here is a comparison to a 16mm scan:
Keep in mind that mine came from the compressed After Effects preview file as I don’t have the DNG files yet. The 16mm scan came from a compressed BD25 file.
Although the colours differ between the two scans, you’ll notice that the saturation levels are similar in both.
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Hmm I can’t decide if new member good, bad, or ugly? 😄
It will probably be much better than the next Daniel Craig Bond too! 😛