Sorry I thought I had updated the thread. The rescans are done, but I haven’t seen any previews from it yet.
Some of the Youtube comments are crazy, like “download it asap before SONY/Disney decide to remove it…” - no guys, there’s no need to worry, YoshiKiller2S already (generously) shared the raw file so it’s perfectly safe! 😃
Honestly it’s crazy the response you got, considering the relatively modest response to this being shared in HD for the first time:
Lots of people seem to think that because this trailer was pulled in cinemas it’s less likely to be preserved in high quality - nope! Even the Orphanage, a 2007 film, its trailers are not in HD (I preserved the Teaser).
Many thanks to YoshiKiller2S for this preservation! It looks AMAZING, the scanning facility did an amazing job on this one.
Scanning will take a while.
Not with this project, but support for other projects is appreciated send a private conversation if you’re interested. 😃
The scanner plans to get the rescans done this month. 😃
This is great news! 😄
DD and DTS it’s 1993+.
We have a much better colour reference as mentioned. 😉
We’re not “trying” to replace official releases, comparing to official releases is a fool’s errand.
T2 doesn’t look that great on 35mm to be honest, it’s one of the softest lowest resolution films I’ve seen no doubt due to the Super35 blow-up process. But there’s no point in saying you want to see it scanned, someone has to come up with the money to purchase or hire a print and to pay for the scanning, without that you’re just complaining about the home release which while it’s not the greatest, it isn’t the worst either. And any potential T2 scan has nothing to do with my projects anyway, I’d much rather scan T1 than T2 and there are many other films I’d rather scan than that (my primary focus remains on Disney animation films of course).
It’s a pity that Tiddy couldn’t keep it civil. There’s no reason to be at each other’s throats over this kind of thing…
Well for the theatrical experience anyway. The “detail” in prints is 1-2K not anywhere near 4K (although they have much richer dynamic range than digital) and most prints have little shadow/highlight detail, the exception being dye-transfer prints that retain the same detail level into the shadows/highlights. Blurays and 2K/4K restorations are often sharpened way beyond the sharpness of prints as well. This is not a limitation of prints - films like Alien were shot in anamorphic and transferred using contact-printing so there is little to no loss of sharpness between the negative and the final prints.
TiddySprinklesPimpBillion said:
You better not use noise reduction. Film grain is great. Do not colormatch to any release as you’ve mentioned except other film prints. Pointless to try to match with the extremely outdated Laserdiscs and taking it a step up with what you’re doing.
I think you’re misunderstanding quite a lot about film scanning. I’ve seen both scans we have so far, from two different prints scanned on two different machines, and both of them have quite a bit of scanner noise in them. I’m getting one reel re-scanned professionally on equipment that is virtually noise-free, once we have that we’ll know exactly how much to reduce the noise by.
As for colour grading, it’s a lot more involved then that. We have a few minutes from a (virtually) un-faded print, but both of the prints we scanned were red. The un-faded scan, even though it isn’t much, is our reference for the rest of the film and we have a pretty good idea about how the film should look.
Yeah that’s right, welcome to the forum Joseph!
Then you should have no problem ignoring the thread.
I don’t mind his comment, print-based preservations aren’t to everyone’s taste.
TiddySprinklesPimpBillion said:
This doesn’t need to happen, especially with the 4K UHD release.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Alien-4K-Blu-ray/230308/
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=5205&d2=13061&s1=48549&s2=130852&i=2&l=1
The preservation won’t match the quality of the Bluray (let alone the UHD) but it will preserve the theatrical version of the film.
I HAVE THE MASTERS.
To my knowledge, we destroyed the 35mm masters at Sony…But I am the only person with the actual DigiBeta masters.
We were told to dispose of anything with the twin towers but my boss told me to just get rid of them but not nuke ‘em, which I normally would’ve done,
and he said get them out of here, as in Sony, so they ‘went away’ to the cornfield.😉
Can you encode and upload them please (ideally at full resolution DNxHR or Prores)? Unfortunately trailers are grossly overlooked by studios, can you believe before I uploaded the Matrix’s trailer:
https://valeyard.net/2017/04/the-matrix-trailer-in-hd-for-the-first-time.php
https://vimeo.com/212361397
That it didn’t exist anywhere in HD?
Has Anyone Looked At This Link To 35mm Cinderella On Ebay
I don’t think we need another print, and certainly not one that expensive! 😃
I’ve sent you a message, click the speech icon next to your avatar at the top of the page.
The original project is dead, I will update the OP to make that clear but without removing the original text since I feel it’s important that we are accountable, we did take donations and on this project we couldn’t deliver.
If anyone wants to complain, I take full responsibility for this so PM me any grievances.
Listing just ended, did we win?
Nope. Don’t despair, we’ll look for another print.
This movie has been a poison chalice, quite literally unfortunately. However we currently have a very promising opportunity.
The print is on eBay and is listed as very good condition. The seller is reputable.
Auction ends in TWO DAYS.
Currently the bid is at $514. We need at least $700 in pledges to make a bid.
Donations for this project go to a third party who is doing the ebay bidding, not to myself of poita, PM me for details.
Target: $700+
Current total of pledges: $400
I have a sponsor for scanning. If purchased, the print will be scanned on professional equipment and our generous sponsor will pay for it.
As time is short I’ve sent out a few messages to people who donated the first time around, please don’t think I’m spamming you. 😉 It’s partly to make sure that people who might be interested know where to send the money before they assume to send it to me or poit.
THANKS EVERYONE!
Please keep any offers coming, we are getting close towards the goal!
Donations for this project go to a third party who is doing the ebay bidding, not to myself of poita, PM me for details.
@Dusty311, thanks for the question, I’ve edited some posts to clarify.
If you’re interested shoot me a private conversation. I have arranged someone to do the ebay bidding, this is someone who knows the scanner already, however we do need to raise the full cost in donations to be able to bid.
I have recorded Mway1’s pledge, with thanks.
It’ll be scanned in better quality than the trailer, our sponsor is letting us use a professional scanner, but we can’t say too much on the open forum about how it will be scanned.
Is anyone else interested in buying the ebay print - or donating towards it?
I don’t know I would call that “easy”, I can send you my project files and you can see what you can make of it if you like. In any case, we have a very good opportunity to scan this film now if the print is purchased.
Hi guys,
I’m looking in to getting something organised for this. I have sponsorship for the scanning that will cover the full cost of scanning, but I can’t pay for this item right now. We need to organise one bidder, I’m doing that now, and then any donations would go to him/her.
SO, long story short, if there is interest in this film please speak up now and say how much you would like to donate. PM me if you need to or you want to be anonymous. We probably need at least $700 so keep that in mind.
The ebay seller is a trusted seller who we know, if he says the print is “very good” then the print will be very good.