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rpvee said:

Confirmed at last!!!

“Part of Lucasfilm’s yearlong 50th anniversary celebration, a newly restored version of the classic Star Wars (1977) theatrical release — later renamed Star Wars: A New Hope — will play in theaters for a limited time.“

There we go… the leaks forced their hand I bet lol

I thought for sure they were going to wait until Celebration 2027 to make a big announcement. Maybe they’ll wait until then to announce all 3 are coming to home video.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

RM4747 said:

Broom Kid said:

Nobody tell this dude anything tell he pays you five bucks

Must be depressing being a jaded, angry old Baby Boomer.

Attack the post - not the poster.

Tell that to him. I’m being attacked for sharing Bill Hunt’s post for some reason, and mocked and insulted for giving him $5.

You guys need to get outside more often.

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Tobar said:

RM4747 said:

Broom Kid said:

Nobody tell this dude anything tell he pays you five bucks

Must be depressing being a jaded, angry old Baby Boomer.

I recommend you take another look at our rules. Specifically:

Don’t attack other members personally. When debating, argue the point, not the person. Respectful criticisms of debate style (logical fallacies) are acceptable.

This is your first and last warning.

So his harassing me and insults are totally fine? lmao

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That guy with no name said:

Why would that be expected? That would be a vast and herculean effort. Finding, recovering, transferring, and then re-rendering 30-year-old CGI renders? Not to mention, they would have to re-scan other pieces of film missing from the theatrical cuts. To give a little away (and I won’t go any further), the '97 film out inserts were not scanned for this. In fact, if the documents are to be believed (which, btw, is not a 100% sure thing), then those pieces of film are no longer part of the negatives…

The versions would have noticeably different color grading and resolution.

I’m pretty sure most of the CGI isn’t from 1997, they re-did it several times, in 2004 for the DVDs, then again in 2011 for the Blu-Ray, and only a few minor tweaks in 2019 for the 4K version.

But yes, I agree with the reasoning that “Those are George’s versions and we aren’t going to touch them.”

Kathleen Kennedy has pretty much said that in interviews also.

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That guy with no name said:

It’s not the special edition, and it won’t be both either. That part (which is what I was replying to), I do know and have proof to back up, which I can’t share because, for the millionth time, it’s sensitive.

So that leaves options:

  1. Nothing, it’s only for internal preservation and won’t be released.

  2. Only the original theatrical versions will be released.

Interesting choice, since that would leave the Special Editions on the old 2011-2012 4K scans at worse quality.

You’d think they’d also use these new 6K scans as a base to update the Special Editions as well, and re-do the CGI at higher resolution, but maybe they’re just going to leave that alone entirely, since that was George’s project.

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That guy with no name said:

Of course. You don’t, I haven’t asked the person running this thread to post it!

Why not?

And why not just answer the question?

I don’t need to see proof. No need to post anything sensitive.

It’s a really simple question that you can answer: What are they planning to do with it?

This drip drip drip and teasing and wink wink “Trust me, I know things!!” is pretty silly.

Censoring people’s initials in the leaked documents was pretty silly, as if we don’t know who K.K. is lol

Yeah… big mystery who that could be…

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That guy with no name said:

We do know, though, that’s the whole point.

Then feel free to tell the rest of us. What are they planning to do with it?

I didn’t see it anywhere, but I haven’t read all 15 pages of this thread.

The original FAQ says “We don’t know, it’s possible this is just for an internal restoration and it will never be released, or for an updated Special Edition.”

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Broom Kid said:

So what I’m reading is, you paid him to find out behind the scenes info.

He doesn’t know anything more than what you could have got here for free months ago. So what you paid for was embellishment and bad conjecture - and about four separate reminders that he’s got “contacts.” I’m not mad you posted it here. I’m not mad, period. I thought it was a good opportunity to point out what he was actually doing. Think of it as an object lesson in media literacy

Nobody is forcing you to keep vouching for and defending that position. You don’t have to keep doing so, and by doing so, force yourself into making contradictory statements with every quote. You’re just choosing to do it.

None of this is hostile. I can see why it’d be frustrating to someone who wants to keep doing something despite it not going the way they’d like, but that frustration is also a choice.

Yeah, that’s how Patreon works… you can’t see what was posted until AFTER you pay lmao

It only shows you the post headlines without paying.

I had no way to know if he had new information or not without paying. Either way, $5 isn’t a big deal to me.

I didn’t make a comment about what he said, I just shared it. Go yell at him yourself if you think he’s wrong, don’t tell me.

My point was only that he confirmed it with his sources at Lucasfilm that they are in fact remastering it, and do plan to release something in 2027. Whether it’s a new Special Edition, or the theatrical versions, or both, no one seems to know yet.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

RM4747 said:

I’m honestly not that interested in the behind the scenes work lol, all of the interesting technical details have already been leaked.

Ahh. Yes. I’m sure everything leaked. Must have all leaked. Sure of it.

I’m not interested. We just want to be able to buy the movies lol

Broom Kid said:

RM4747 said:

I’m honestly not that interested in the behind the scenes work lol,

You pay Bill Hunt a monthly fee to spoon soft-serve-bullshit into your eyes.

I don’t. I paid $5 for one month because I saw that he posted about Star Wars and was curious what he was hearing.

People are really hostile here for no reason. No moderators here?

All I did was copy and paste what he said. Don’t shoot the messenger if you hate the guy.

Maybe he’s wrong, maybe he’s not. I have no idea. We’ll all find out in 2027. All I did was share what he said.

YAREL_RGP said:

Because let’s think about it, Disney must have a very complete record of how the films looked.

Clearly not, because the color grading on all previous home media releases has been way off.

George’s private copy.

If it’s his personal copy, pretty unlikely Disney would have access to that.

Especially for a re-master of the theatrical version, which he hates and doesn’t want released lol

Even in his interview at Cannes last year, he still ranted against people who want the original versions. He was asked directly if they have plans to release them in HD or 4K, and his answer was “Well we put them on DVD but everyone said they looked terrible and didn’t want them!”

Although he’s a bad person to ask, since he sold the company, retired, and no longer has any control over the films. I seriously doubt if he’s even aware they’re being restored right now. It certainly didn’t sound like it in 2024.

Or perhaps they don’t have to go that far; they could use the separation masters or the YCM masters and scan them as a reference file.

The separation masters are generally made from the raw negative, so those wouldn’t be color graded. Only the interpositive and later is color graded.

But they don’t depend on collectors who own rare copies for million-dollar projects because they already have all the material that we here would sell our souls to own.

IB Technicolor prints are very rare, and unique because the colors don’t fade at all. And they weren’t really used in the US at all for Star Wars, they were pretty much only made for some European markets.

The regular Eastman negative film that Lucasfilm has is extremely faded and color shifted.

I didn’t see any mention in the leaked documents that Lucasfilm has an IB Technicolor print in their vault.

The BFI’s copy would be extremely useful to them for color accuracy, assuming they didn’t already have one.

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Some Interested Observer said:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

Feel free to share. No one believes you have any information without proof.

Why would I need to share if there are no more secrets, duh!

You don’t have any. I didn’t think so.

I’m sure that Member X of all people has no extra info on the behind the scenes… 😃

I’m honestly not that interested in the behind the scenes work lol, all of the interesting technical details have already been leaked.

All we care about is whether the original versions will actually get a theatrical/home media release, but no one seems to know yet.

It’s possible they’ll just use these new scans to do an updated Special Edition, or that it’s just for internal preservation and will never be released publicly.

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That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

Feel free to share. No one believes you have any information without proof.

Why would I need to share if there are no more secrets, duh!

You don’t have any. I didn’t think so.

Ok then. You weren’t invited to that conversation in the first place, so in your small-town world, I, in fact, don’t have anything… I’m glad you’re content!

Have you keeled over yet?

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JadedSkywalker said:

I’m heartened by the fact that no one sees the Maclunky scans as Archival anymore.

I do wonder if those scans were trash are they going to also remaster George’s final special edition cut and do we even care.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they did both, just like the 2006 DVDs.

The current 4K releases are based on 4K scans that were done ~15 years ago, right before George sold the company to Disney.

Some people prefer the special editions, some people prefer the original theatrical versions.

Why not give people the choice? Just like with Blade Runner, and pretty much all other movies that have had a director’s cut.

More choices for the viewer isn’t a bad thing.

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Broom Kid said:

I interpreted him referencing the BFI screening as just proof that Lucasfilm/Disney is no longer shying away from the theatrical versions, or pretending they don’t exist like Lucas did for decades. They even falsely claimed the original negatives no longer existed, or were permanently modified in the 90s. These leaks prove that was a load of BS, which everyone suspected anyway.

I agree with him that Lucasfilm allowing the print to be screened, and having Kathleen Kennedy there to introduce it (she even made a comment about George’s constant tinkering) is telling, and was pretty surprising.

He also mentions that they’re likely using that IB Technicolor print as a color reference for their re-master, which the leaked documents also seem to confirm.

As for what Bill knows and when he knew it, I guess people would just have to take his word for that, who knows. I’m sure we’ll hear more between now and April 2027.

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oojason said:

RM4747 said:

It’s even been confirmed by Bill Hunt at The Digital Bits with his sources at Lucasfilm.

I missed that - do you have a link for it please, mate?

digitalfreaknyc said:

Oh really? do tell.

And, let’s be real: Bill isn’t what he used to be, even if he did say that (which, spoiler alert, he didn’t).

He posted it on his Patreon, he posts all of his scoops there first, before eventually putting them on the website.

ibb . co/PGnCdY20

The full thing is too long to screenshot, but I’ll copy and paste it here:

Bill Hunt said:

All right, you may have seen on the Internet over the past week or so that there’s a rumor circulating that the original Star Wars Trilogy is being remastered.

And depending on where you’re looking, you may have seen more information or less information on this particular topic.

I’ve been holding my tongue on this for a while, and for good reason, but now that it’s starting to be out there in the ether, I wanted to chime in here on Patreon. (Not yet on The Bits, but maybe soon—we’ll see.)

So let me just clarify things right up front: Yes, my sources have unofficially confirmed that Lucasfilm is engaged in a full archival restoration of these films, and has in fact been working on the project for many months now.

This is indeed a full ground-up restoration of the original theatrical films—Star Wars (1977), The Empire Strikes Back (1980), and Return of the Jedi (1983)—scanned from the 35mm camera negatives, the VistaVision effects negatives, and best additional available film elements (interpositives, etc).

And the primary motivation here, especially with the original Star Wars celebrating its 50th anniversary in 2027, is preservation. Disney paid a large amount of money for ownership of this franchise, and creatively it all begins with these three films. So it makes a great deal of sense to protect those assets.

You may be surprised to learn that this is really the first proper photochemical preservation effort on these films done since 1996-97.

Keep in mind that the current 4K Ultra HD editions are all based on 16-bit 4K scan and restoration work done by Reliance MediaWorks (formerly Lowry Digital) in 2011-12 for the Blu-ray release… and that effort was built upon the 10-bit HD scan and restoration work done by Lowry back in 2003-04 for DVD… which of course built on the 1996-97 restorations done for the Special Edition theatrical releases.

But of course, lots of people were unhappy with the SE work, and it’s fair to say Reliance/Lowry’s restoration efforts have been controversial over the years—as physical media fans will no doubt be aware, their work has tended to be somewhat heavy handed.

In terms of this latest effort—which is apparently being done by a team custom assembled by Lucasfilm specifically for this project working under the name Aurora Light Imageworks—I’ve actually been tracking the details since March of this year, which is when I first began to hear from industry sources that work was underway.

The information I was hearing began picking up in late April, leading up to Disney’s annual “May the Fourth” celebration, and what was notable then was the number of industry sources reporting to me that they were seeing or hearing signs of work happening.

When I say industry sources by the way, typically I’m talking about studio executives, filmmakers, producers, DPs, people who work in tech services at various post houses and authoring facilities, and occasionally retail sources—that sort of thing.

As it happens, I’m friends with multiple people who work for Lucasfilm directly, either at the Letterman Digital Center, or ILM, or Skywalker Sound on the Ranch, etc. But I’m also very careful not to put such people in an awkward position, and it’s typically only very senior people who have and can share valuable information off the record or on deep background.

But what’s that line from Andor? “I have friends everywhere.”

I’ve been a working professional in this industry since the mid-1990s. I know a lot of people. And one hears things.

It was when news broke that the British Film Institute had discovered a rare Technicolor I.B. print of the original 1977 version of Star Wars in their archives, and that Lucasfilm was particularly interested in it, that things began to heat up. And then came the most surprising news: Not only did Lucasfilm allow the BFI to screen that print publicly in London (in June of this year), Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy was there to introduce the screening!

That was the moment I knew these industry restoration rumors were the real deal. Why would Lucasfilm be so interested in this particular print? Because such prints have a finer grain structure and they’re made using the dye-transfer “imbibition” printing process (that’s where the I.B. comes from), so the colors don’t fade. In other words, that print is probably the best color reference for what the original film should look like that still survives.

And the fact that Lucasfilm allowed it to be screened for the public (no doubt after properly scanning it for protection) is, I believe, telling.

On the topic of the new restoration itself, a great deal more information has quietly leaked in recent weeks—allegedly by accident—from within the project. We’re talking about raw video clips of scanned sources, technical notes, and other information.

If the details are to be believed, the restorations are based upon new 6K scans of the 35mm assets (OCN where available, and color reversal intermediate or interpositive when needed), as well as 8K scans of the VistaVision material. And the audio work is being done by Skywalker Sound from the original stereo mixes and 6-track 70mm mixes (sourced from magnetic stripe), with the mono mixes used as reference, and of course Ben Burtt’s original sound library and his more recent 7.1 and Atmos mixes.

I don’t want to share too much of what’s leaked, but I will share a trio of snapshots (from video clips) of each film. Keep in mind these aren’t necessarily final, but they do give you a very good idea of the scan and source image quality…

These images are greatly reduced in size and compressed for posting here. But as you can see, even these raw images are better in terms of color and detail than the recent 4K releases. So it does seem as if—for perhaps the very first time ever—these restorations are being done right, again from the ground up. And the goal is to archive, protect, and preserve virtually every single piece of film, and every original element.

Now… it also seems likely that once these original theatrical versions are restored and protected, that George Lucas’ preferred Special Editions will be upgraded as well. Once again, that may mean yet another pass at redoing many of the CG visual effects shots first produced in 1996-97.

The question of course is: Will those restored original theatrical versions see the light of day? Or will the Special Editions—appropriately upgraded based on this new restoration work—continue to be the only publicly available versions?

Given that 2027 is the 50th anniversary of the original Star Wars, and given that Lucasfilm has already allowed that Technicolor I.B. print to be screened by the BFI, my suspicion is that there’s a good chance we will actually get to see the original OT, perhaps via limited theatrical and IMAX screenings.

And maybe… just maybe… on Blu-ray and or 4K Ultra HD. (May the Force Be with Us!)

But the simple truth is that we just don’t know yet what 2027 will bring.

In any case, I am personally beyond relieved to know that those original theatrical versions are finally being properly preserved, so that fans will never again have to listen to George Lucas or anyone else claiming that they no longer exist, or that they’ve somehow been lost to time.

And that is no small thing.

So what do you guys think of all this? Please share your thoughts in the comments below and feel free to discuss all of this with your fellow Patreon subscribers.

And please don’t share any of what I’ve posted here—including the screen shots—outside of Patreon. There are many more such leaked images online, if you know where to look, but I’m only going to share these few here on Patreon, and not on The Bits. And when I do finally make a post on our website about this, it’s likely going to be much more concise than what I’ve written here.

Keep in mind that work on this restoration is still underway, and much about the 2027 50th anniversary celebration has yet to be finalized by Lucasfilm and Disney. My feeling is: Better to hold our tongues in public now, and let things play out as they will, so as to not negatively influence whatever decision they ultimately make.

Back with more soon! Stay tuned… –BH

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Mocata said:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

Secondly, the color is unbelievably accurate. Dr Dre himself has proclaimed them the best he’d ever seen and is even basing his next 4K77 color grade on them.

If we assume this is getting a theatrical and home media release in 2027, wouldn’t that make 4K77/80/83 pretty much irrelevant? I’m surprised they’d continue to work on them.

If we assume it’s released and is real, and if there’s no sort of issue that screws up the experience or makes it all a waste of time. So far these are big ifs… don’t count your mynocks before they hatch.

I mean, we obviously know these scans are real. Lucasfilm is obviously scanning and re-mastering all of the original film.

It’s even been confirmed by Bill Hunt at The Digital Bits with his sources at Lucasfilm.

What they’re going to do with the re-masters, we don’t know yet. But a 2027 theatrical and home media release seems likely.

Wouldn’t make much sense to do a re-master like this and do nothing with it.

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JadedSkywalker said:

Isn’t that what they did for Star Trek TMP they scanned the VistaVision and 65mm neg at Higher than 4K resolution?

I’d love to see that for Star Wars without the DNR added at the end though. SW is standard 4 perf and 8 perf? No 65mm negative despite it being considered before the film was made. They selected VistaVision.

It doesn’t look like Star Trek was shot on 70mm at all, but they also used VistaVision for VFX yes.

The reason was because it was higher resolution and had finer grain, so when doing optical compositing and making a copy of a copy of a copy, the added grain wasn’t as bad.

Maybe if the budget was larger, Lucas would’ve shot everything on 70mm, but that was pretty uncommon between the 1960s and more recently when Quentin Tarantino and Christopher Nolan revived it.

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That guy with no name said:

Secondly, the color is unbelievably accurate. Dr Dre himself has proclaimed them the best he’d ever seen and is even basing his next 4K77 color grade on them.

If we assume this is getting a theatrical and home media release in 2027, wouldn’t that make 4K77/80/83 pretty much irrelevant? I’m surprised they’d continue to work on them.

I mean, I guess some people prefer the extra grainy and faded look of a 40 year old theatrical print, but these 6K scans of the original negative look SO much better, even just from compressed YouTube clips.

Lucasfilm is going to have access to the most accurate color references, since they have all of the original film elements, including the IB Technicolor print that hasn’t faded at all (which I’m sure they scanned before allowing the BFI to screen it), and the original color separation masters of the negative, which also haven’t faded at all.

lurker77 said:

A “secondary” 8K scan for certain (or just one) shots is peculiar. It’s considered pointless for 35mm. Perhaps they’re counting pixels across the width of a VVLA frame? Or they had to do a recombine from stems or sep masters and the extra res was helpful? (The “3F” could point to this)

Most of the VFX were done in the 8-perf VistaVision format, which is higher resolution than standard 4-perf 35mm.

The notes mentioned that the VistaVision VFX shots are being scanned in 8K, all of the standard 35mm is being scanned in 6K.