I just sent a copy of the raw version to Erikstormtrooper, who has plans for distributing it. At some point here I'll work on synching it with PG, but for now the raw one should be available soon. Watch the thread.
Just so y'all know, I'm about 2/3rds of the way through the repairs on reel 2.
silverwheel said:
This is why I love watching the Puggo Grande so much - it really allows one to focus on the energy of the editing.
Thanks for the kind words about PG. Indeed, I have always maintained that the editing is what made the movie - even possibly saved it from being a disaster. And, that's why the SE is not only bad for movie history, it also made the movie tangibly worse.
The tape starts abruptly, just as the music starts. It also cuts off just as the credits start to roll. The tape flip is quick, just a few seconds.
With regards synching it up with the Puggo Grande - the PG is in 3 parts, not 2. So if I synced an .ac3 version to the PG, it would have the tape flip in the middle of reel 2. Which brings me to my next question... presuming that I do create a synched version, what format should it be in be in... wav? flac? ac3? And how would people deploy it?
toho-scope said:
this screams to be synced up to the puggo grande, and the GOUT
Keep in mind that these would be two very different synch efforts.
I don't know - I've never distributed any of my work. After doing my restorations, they have always just "somehow/magically" gotten out there. My preference has always been to leave the distributing to others, so that I could continue to do my restorations with less fear of reprisal. Because, it is very easy to figure out who I am.
So all you naughty people that are distributing my restorations... shame on you! shame! :)
Ok, point taken. I added a link in the first post of the new thread.
Ok folks, currently the audio is in the form of two .wav files (side 1 and side 2). Each .wav file is about 600Mb. Of course I could convert them to FLAC to make them smaller.
But the more pressing question, regards what content people want. There are a few potholes in it... a small missing chunk when the tape was flipped, a brief missing chunk at the start, and 2 or 3 missing chunks (2-3 seconds each) on side 2 where someone apparently accidently put the cassette machine into "record" while this tape was in it. If people want to listen to this or sync it with some video, those will need to be patched.
Should I post the original, raw capture - warts and all - so people can do their own restoration? I can patch it, but there are many other folks here that are more knowledgeable about the various SW mixes than I am, who might do a better job. There is also the question of what sort of other postprocessing might be desirable. I haven't checked its eq curve or looked for errant hums or other distortions yet that could be fixed. But some might prefer the raw capture as a basis for their own careful or studied restoration. Thoughts?
New thread started.
Scofield version
Live in-theater audio cassette recording of Star Wars ~1977.
Source: ProtocolDroid.
Cine Capri (AZ).
FedMart cassette.
Transferred by Puggo using a Nakamichi MR-1.
side 1: 60:33
side 2: 56:15
original thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Is-this-amateur-audio-recording-of-any-use/topic/14000/
Watch thrift stores and eBay. That way it's a small price to pay and you won't be giving any additional money to Lucas.
If it's 4 separate tracks and you can't find someone that can pull out all four tracks, let me know because, if skyjedi is right, I have the deck that it was made for and can capture the 4 tracks separately.
Sluggo said:
I was watching the scene in Ben's house where they were watching Princess Leis's holographic message. There was a small moment after where Ben stops staring into space and looks over at Luke, Luke did the same and looks over at Ben. Then Ben tells Luke he should learn the ways of the Force.
You mean the use of pacing? Sorry, that's not allowed in movies today.
Ok, it's sounding most likely like the 35mm mix.
Ok, I was wrong... it's not the mono mix Beru. So, what's the easiest way to distinguish between the 35mm and 70mm mixes?
Ok, now I'm confused. It can't be the mono mix because "close the blast doors" is absent. But it sounds like the mono mix Beru. I need to go back now and listen to all the various Berus more carefully.
Much more audience reactions in the second hour. Applause in two spots.
Some really cool mojo on this tape. I feel like I'm 17 again listening to it.
Second moment of clear audience reaction... when Han tells C3PO that droids don't pull people's arms out of their sockets when they lose. Audible laughs.
Halfway through...
TServo2049 said:
"Other" Beru? I thought that was only the mono. Morgands' 70mm recording has the normal one ("most of his friends have GONE" - mono is "most of his FRIENDS have gone")
OH, then I'm wrong. I just know that it can't be the 35mm.
Mine's an MR-1.
I received the tape today. Cheap cassette brand, but the sound is remarkably good. I think it's the 70mm mix. I've made it through the first 30 minutes, and it's the "other" Beru. The theater must have had a very nice sound system, as both the highs and the lows sound very clear and full. I'll continue working on it tonight.
The only significant audience reaction so far was when R2 was in the canyon and started acting scared. Lots of clearly audible giggles. I'm sure there will be more to report as I continue to make my way through it.
Good idea, I'll do that.
Hey that greenscreen of George could be useful in some projects here.
Is it possible that they just filmed some blank shots of the desert in Tunisia during Ep.2, so that they'd have backdrops of Tatooine for use in the greenscreen shots of Ep.3?
For someone who decried being discriminated against, he sure was good at generalizing about people. It only took him about a day-and-a-half to generalize about us. Although I probably wouldn't have banned him quite so quickly. Honestly I think we've seen worse.
I expect to give a preliminary report within a couple of days of receiving the tape.
Darn, now I won't get to see the ban-worthy Fioni crap.
Agreed. I'm very happy with the print(s) I had to work with.