Davnes007 said:
Pennsylvania Jones said:
...Sony Vegas' lack of Xvid Codec. Gotta download it someday.
Sony Vegas easily supports Xvid when it's codec is installed.
So I've heard. But Sony Vegas is on our family's newest computer. If I download the codec and it turns out to have a virus... RIP, New Computer. I'll proceed with caution.
Did I mention Bruce Broughton rules in Lost in Space? :)
patkhoo said:
Pennsylvania Jones said:
Sorry, I was just joking back. ;) My comment was mostly directed to the kindergarteners who work at LFL.
If George changed his mind and released the Originals with a proper HD master (hypothetically speaking, of course), I'll bet you $3,000 the newer fans won't go "AARGH!!! I HATE LUCAS FOR MAKING THE UNALTERED MOVIES AVAILABLE!!!" At worst, they'll just say "Okay, there's your HD Unaltered Trilogy. Now will you please SHUT UP?"
I hear you - kindergartenders indeed :D
But my fear/worry/?? is that if GL had released the _REAL_ _PURE_ OT on BluRay, the younger generations would have said "What is the big deal?" and "OK, gotcha, this is my father's ice-cream truck" or "You mean Zac Efron isn't in it?" or ...
I don't know whether to weep in despair or disgust.. We need to find ways to show that this (the fantastic work that people like DJ have put in to preserving the OT) _IS_ better than the brain-washing-mind-altering-history-morphing crap that is the current incarnation of the Trilogy.. How?
Obviously, what we want is compromise: the unaltered versions alongside the Special Edition. George doesn't want to do that, and Lucas worshipers are bashing us because our will is contrary to that of the almighty Lucas. If Lucas decides to show the unaltered trilogy the respect that even the worst/least known of today's movies get, Lucas worshipers won't have a problem with it because it'd be Lucas' decision. I know I'm the only one bringing this up, but it's my perspective on the situation.
But you do have a point about the younger generation. Most don't give a carp about ANY sort of history. Even if the unaltered trilogy were to be made available, they probably wouldn't care.
But then again... Look at me! I'm a part of the younger generation, and the whole reason I prefer the Unaltered version is because of the corrected lightsaber inconsistancies. If there were more kids like me and Aluminum Falcon, then the Theatrical version would definitely grow in popularity.
xhonzi said:
Pennsylvania Jones said:
xhonzi said:
Just an observation from someone who's spent a lot of time thinking about stories and how to write them- Story is not just a sequence of things happening. It's about something. Figure out what your story is about, then use scenes to build that something.
I know that. I've known that for years. I said in the post that this was only the first part of the story.
Apologies.
Apology accepted. I think I'm going to give up on seeking help from here, though. Now if only Thorn Valley forums would just activate my blasted account!
MJPollard said:
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (you knew it was coming sooner or later)
Say what you will about the flaws in this movie (and there are many), but it's hard to find fault with Liam Neeson. He always gives his all in whatever film he's in, and his characterization of Qui-Gon Jinn is no exception. His Qui-Gon is the Jedi we all want to see: quiet, dignified, wise in many ways, yet not afraid to "mix it up" when he has to (and he has the skills to back it up).
Agreed. Plus, the score is very memorable for me. I'm not as obsessed with it as I am with the Lost in Space score, but it's still an awesome score.
Jar-Jar Binks (Phantom Menace) or Cecil the Caterpillar (Timmy to the Rescue)?
The Lost in Space Movie
My introduction to the Lost in Space Franchise (Well, one of its computer games was, anyway). Below are the two things I love most about it.
The Robot:
And Bruce Broughton's Score:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAPJprWG2-Y
If there were two Lost in Space-related things you should know about me, it's that I LOVE the Rebuilt Robot and Bruce Broughton's Score.
DuracellEnergizer said:
I use Windows Movie Maker myself ... and MS Paint.
God, I'm pathetic! PATHETIC! :patheticsobbing:
Don't feel bad. There's nothing wrong with Windows Movie Maker. It's always been my number-one video editing tool. (And it still is, thanks to Sony Vegas' lack of Xvid Codec. Gotta download it someday.) The video below, I made entirely with Movie Maker. I think I've pushed what you can do with Movie Maker (as well as with the clips from Secret of NIMH and Star Wars) to the limit in this video.
Secret of NIMH Star Wars - Size Matters Not:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhlDDNjBt9s
I'm making a sequel that involves some chiming in from Sony Vegas (Things like stereo panning effects), but the video itself is being edited in movie maker.
MY CHANNEL:
DON'T TOUCH THE RED ONE!!!
Windows or Mac?
I've seen one review of Timmy to the Rescue done by Hardcore Kid. In it, he called MGM Money-Grabbing Morons. Well, if that's the case, then LFL is Lazy Film Loathers. :P
patkhoo said:
Pennsylvania Jones said:
patkhoo said:
In Blu Ray ANH, I must say that they turned up the saturation on colours fairly significantly. As Leia's ship is being pursued, the brown of the planet below has many red and white streaks. A little too strong I feel.
And then, as the ship is being captured (around 3:15), the sound effects of the ship being pulled into the landing bay of the star destroyer is now much louder. Where bfore it is more muffled, now it is much clearer. Incorrect I feel since if you are inside a starship, wouldn't such sounds be in fact muffled and not crystal clear? This is a starship, not a submarine..
As the storm troopers enter, the laser beams are again fairly strongly saturated. Too much red and green stuff flying in all directions - distracting.
But, I must admit, the detail on the rebel guard's face at 3:30 is a joy to behold. You can see clearly all the hair on his head and eyebrows :) Plus, the underside of the star destroyer is clearer than ever.
I will say this - this release seems to be keeping up with the times - keeping up with the Transformers and the Pirates and the Potters. Or at least, in terms of movie production emphasis. The explosions are louder, the laser beams more pronounced, the dialog less subtle and more direct, etc. It is like if the Trilogy was filmed/created in 2011 instead of 1970 - this is what the movies would be like. It's like Star Wars for the new generation who are growing up with Optimus Prime and Captain Jack. Wait a minute, didn't I watch Transformers 30 odd years ago too? I swear there wasn't anyone in the cartoons that remotely looked as good as Megan Fox..
Sigh.. Maybe I'm getting old and can't get past what *I* remember of Star Wars and GL is a genius at constantly updating a masterpiece and keeping it current from decade to decade.
I may disagree with/dislike what GL is doing to the OT, but I am not obtuse enough to assert that my generation's view of a good movie/story is better than the current generation's typical "top notch fare"..
So, creating continuity errors in its brand-new special effects is "Top Notch Fare?"
Mace Windu said:
I don't think so.
I don't think so either. But who am I to say that Lady GaGa is worse than Abba? There was a time when Rock and Roll was considered halfway to blasphemy, but I'd take anything from Elvis over Eminem any day.
Katy Perry just scored 5 number one singles from a single album - a feat previously only ever achieved by one other person - Michael Jackson. But Katy Perry's number 1s have spent a combined total of 18 weeks at no 1 compared to just 7 weeks for Michael. Does this mean Katy Perry is better than Michael Jackson? I guess it depends who you ask.
I think the changes made by GL are total crap. But that's me. I can imagine there are plenty of other people, probably much younger than me, who may actually agree with GL. For that achievement, OK, I have to (grudgingly) tip my hat in respect and recognition to him.
I may understand the reasons for the changes - and maybe even articulate them, but I still don't agree with them. If I did, I wouldn't be hanging out here at OT.com with all you fine fellows, waiting patiently for DJ's Project Blu now would I? :D
Sorry, I was just joking back. ;) My comment was mostly directed to the kindergarteners who work at LFL.
If George changed his mind and released the Originals with a proper HD master (hypothetically speaking, of course), I'll bet you $3,000 the newer fans won't go "AARGH!!! I HATE LUCAS FOR MAKING THE UNALTERED MOVIES AVAILABLE!!!" At worst, they'll just say "Okay, there's your HD Unaltered Trilogy. Now will you please SHUT UP?"
zombie84 said:
It seems like even those guys are starting to facepalm themselves over the leaked changes. Maybe the tide will finally turn.
EPISODE I SOUNDTRACK: THE TIDE TURNS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De0hQI4bp6s
This will probably be the theme of this thread/the score for what's currently happening with Star Wars.
Doofenshmirtz: Well, well, well. Perry the Platypus. I'll bet you're wondering what my latest Inator does? Well, back in Gimmelschtump, I made a science-fiction film that won the Druelselstein Film Awards! Shortly after that, I decided to make a Special Edition of the film. Oddly enough, everyone hated it. It crushed me. I kept making change after change to the DVD and Blu-Ray versions of the film to make it better, but with every change I made, more and more people began hating my Special Edition. Well, no longer! Behold, the Erase-The-Original-Inator!!! With this device, I will erase every single copy, and even the memory of the Original Theatrical version of my movie from the ENTIRE TRI-STATE AREA!!! And I know what you're thinking: Why not just restore the original films that are sitting in that box right there and put them on a current format alongside my Special Edition? Well, I was considering that, but then you'd have to scan in the film and color-correct it, and then you have to go through all of the effort of mastering it to all of those DVDs and Blu-Ray discs... You know, it just seemed easier to just erase the Originals from existence.
Perry: (rolls eyes)
The funny thing is, this not only is EXACTLY what George Lucas has done, but it's also what Doofenshmirtz would do.
*silence*
I probably should've asked if there were Phineas and Ferb fans here first. (slaps face)
TV's Frink said:
Pennsylvania Jones said:
TV's Frink said:
greenpenguino said:
TheBoost said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
*
Did you TYPE all that, or do you have a handy list to cut and paste?
Could you guys stop quoting that list? It's murder on my phone.
Thanks.
Oh, and:
-TPM (L8wrtr edit)
-AOTC (JasonN edit)
-ROTS (JasonN edit)
-SW
-ESB
-ROTJThat's it, that's the list.
(I enjoy the 2D clone wars episodes but they aren't part of my canon)
Which versions of SW, ESB, and ROTJ? ;)
The originals.
The '77/'80/'83 Originals, the '81/'80/'83 Originals, the '85 Originals, or the '93 Originals? In other words, which sound mix and opening crawl do you deem the most canon?
patkhoo said:
In Blu Ray ANH, I must say that they turned up the saturation on colours fairly significantly. As Leia's ship is being pursued, the brown of the planet below has many red and white streaks. A little too strong I feel.
And then, as the ship is being captured (around 3:15), the sound effects of the ship being pulled into the landing bay of the star destroyer is now much louder. Where bfore it is more muffled, now it is much clearer. Incorrect I feel since if you are inside a starship, wouldn't such sounds be in fact muffled and not crystal clear? This is a starship, not a submarine..
As the storm troopers enter, the laser beams are again fairly strongly saturated. Too much red and green stuff flying in all directions - distracting.
But, I must admit, the detail on the rebel guard's face at 3:30 is a joy to behold. You can see clearly all the hair on his head and eyebrows :) Plus, the underside of the star destroyer is clearer than ever.
I will say this - this release seems to be keeping up with the times - keeping up with the Transformers and the Pirates and the Potters. Or at least, in terms of movie production emphasis. The explosions are louder, the laser beams more pronounced, the dialog less subtle and more direct, etc. It is like if the Trilogy was filmed/created in 2011 instead of 1970 - this is what the movies would be like. It's like Star Wars for the new generation who are growing up with Optimus Prime and Captain Jack. Wait a minute, didn't I watch Transformers 30 odd years ago too? I swear there wasn't anyone in the cartoons that remotely looked as good as Megan Fox..
Sigh.. Maybe I'm getting old and can't get past what *I* remember of Star Wars and GL is a genius at constantly updating a masterpiece and keeping it current from decade to decade.
I may disagree with/dislike what GL is doing to the OT, but I am not obtuse enough to assert that my generation's view of a good movie/story is better than the current generation's typical "top notch fare"..
So, creating continuity errors in its brand-new special effects is "Top Notch Fare?"
Mace Windu said:
I don't think so.
Chewtobacca said:
Asaki said:
X0-1138 said:
There's a possibility that I may remove 'Episode IV - A NEW HOPE' from the beginning of the crawl but I must stress, there shall be NO alterations other than the above mentioned.I don't know why the 80s crawl bothers so many people. I know it's about preservation, but every time I see it without the "New Hope", it always looks so naked to me (and both crawls are proper theatrical crawls, anyway). Different strokes, I suppose.
Yep, different strokes. The only thing that I don't like about Arnie.d's V8 is that it has "Episode IV" in the crawl, and I want it to say simply "Star Wars, so I really like this idea.
I have an idea, one for the masters of DVD mastering. Y'know how for the official DVDs, when you start watching the movie in a different language, the opening crawl is in the corresponding language? I was thinking something similar could be done for the '77 and '81 crawls. (Like maybe use the '77 Crawl for the '77 Six-Track/Stereo/Mono mixes, and the '81 Crawl for the '85/'93 Stereo mixes) Speaking of which, what audio mixes are you planning to use?
Bingowings said:
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
You've won the award for the most messed-up quote. ;)
Nicodemus: Courage of the heart is very rare. The Stone has a power when it's there.
Toht: Uh... I meant to do that.
darth_ender said:
^LOL. Nice reference. I'm amazed none of us got to that one yet.
Thanks! I was thinking the same thing. ;)
TV's Frink said:
greenpenguino said:
TheBoost said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
*
Did you TYPE all that, or do you have a handy list to cut and paste?
Could you guys stop quoting that list? It's murder on my phone.
Thanks.
Oh, and:
-TPM (L8wrtr edit)
-AOTC (JasonN edit)
-ROTS (JasonN edit)
-SW
-ESB
-ROTJThat's it, that's the list.
(I enjoy the 2D clone wars episodes but they aren't part of my canon)
Which versions of SW, ESB, and ROTJ? ;)
You should see my brother in action, Ender. Sometimes, he says the most random things, and it makes everyone in the room laugh.
Hmmm... I wonder if I'm the only one who deems Tag & Bink canon? After all, the comics were pretty meticulous in their recreation of the movies.
A TALAXIAN?!??!?!?!?!??!!!?!? :o
Prime Doofenshmirtz: You know, I can't help but notice that your scar goes OVER your eyepatch...
2nd Dimension Doofenshmirtz: Yeah?
Prime Doofenshmirtz: Nothing...
Over 20,000? Not even Master Yoda has a post count that high. What do you suppose it means?
Ziggy Stardust said:
Coke or Pepsi?
WRONG THREAD!
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-OR-Game/topic/13158/
