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#1404161
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The Rocketeer: Presented in Technicolor (A Vintage inspired Regrade)
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Due to The Rocketeer being a throwback to an older time in cinema, I figured what would make for a great companion piece is to regrade the film with a look similar to the 3-Strip Technicolor process. What had me suddenly commit to this project was coming across a plugin for Final Cut Pro and Adobe Priemere/After Effects called “Vintage.” It’s a plugin made by Sheffield Softworks that simulates the coloring process of 2-Strip, 3-Strip, and Multicolor Technicolor looks. Here’s a link if you would like to check it out: https://www.sheffieldsoftworks.com/looks/vin/index.html

I’ll update the thread with some sample images once I have the time.

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#1400661
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George's Alternate Altered Trilogy (AKA, The GAAT) (ANH V1 Released)
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Good news and bad news. The good news is I found a 1080p version of Evolution of The Lightsaber Duel and found some pretty neat ways to incorporate it into the duel. The extra footage is going to be added immediately after Luke tries attacking the Emperor. The bad news is that one shot that I needed to complete the sequence is low res and fuzzy. It’s a shot from the Making of ROTJ Ebook where Luke does a backflip. I tried using detail preserving upscale, but it’s still not the best. It’s only a few seconds, so maybe it won’t stick out too much. If anyone has suggestions or could possibly assit in cleaning it up, that would be appreciated The other bad news is that since this is unused production footage it’ll take a awhile to get the Lightsaber effects composited on every shot. I’ll render out a test clip to show how it looks soon.

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#1399278
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George's Alternate Altered Trilogy (AKA, The GAAT) (ANH V1 Released)
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G&G-Fan said:

Oooooo, that’s really cool! It’s strange that I can’t find that anywhere, I searched all over YouTube for it. Is that the only video with the extended production footage you found?

Maybe attempt an AI upscale of the low res footage, and if you’re not able to do it maybe ask for help.

I think with some good editing (for your version I wouldn’t reuse the same exact audio for the extended parts that is used later so it doesn’t just sound like a weird loop) it would make for an awesome extended duel. I can’t believe George Lucas decided to restore the Jabba scene but not those clips. Then again, there are a billion edits that I can name that would be better then the Jabba scene.

There are others, but they’re all low res. That’s the only one that seems to use decent quality footage. I feel like the low res ones are just from people down scaling and compressing the footage.

If the footage is on a blur ray, can someone tell me which one? I have all three of the 2011 blu rays but they’re in the 3 in 1 pack that seems to lack the special features outside of audio commentaries.

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#1398102
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George's Alternate Altered Trilogy (AKA, The GAAT) (ANH V1 Released)
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Probably late January or mid February. I’m pretty much done with the color adjustments and remixing the throne room duel sound.
Which brings me to a question I have for anyone knowledgeable about the topic. Does anyone know where I can find the unused production footage for the throne room duel in good quality? I’ve found other people’s edits on Youtube that use it, but it either is too limited to repurpose or too low resolution.

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#1393524
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ESB 1997 Laserdisc Inspired Regrade with '97 Soundmix (Version 1 Released)
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Much like my 97 ANH Regrade (Link here if you’re interested in that: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/anh-1997-inspired-regrade-with-se-soundmix-version-2-released/id/80173), this is a regrade of Empire Strikes Back that is intended to be close as possible to the '97 laserdisc version of the film. Originally I had chosen to recapture the laserdisc color timing simply because there weren’t any reliable sources to use for capturing the film’s theatrical look. Now I realize in recent months that a new scan is being done and we’ll all be able to know once and for all what the film looked like in theatres. Regardless, I still think this regrade has it’s place since it’s still a version of ESB that hasn’t seen the light of day past laserdisc and therefore should be brought as close as possible into an HD Reconstruction.

Along with the regraded colors, the 1997 Theatrical Audio will be included and the only SE alterations that will be present are the ones exclusive to the '97 version, which means the original emperor will remain in place. The only post 1997 change that will remain is the cropping effect applied to some of the Millenium Falcon cockpit shots.

Sources:
-2020 Disney 1080p Bluray
-Empire Strikes Back 1997 DVB (TB Release)
-Empire strikes Back
-Adywan’s 1080p 1997 ESB

Here’s some video samples of the cut so far:
-Battle of Hoth: https://youtu.be/tqNrUx2LlUQ

Things to do for Version 2:
Dear god The Battle of Hoth is kicking my ass. The 2020 blu ray colors are so vastly different from the laserdisc that it takes forever to get a single shot to look anything like it did in '97. I even tried using Dre’s color match tool and even then I had problems. Noise and artifacts were being introduced into many shots even after cropping and aligning the images perfectly. I was able to get the first half of the battle color matched, but couldn’t get anything presentable out of the second half. To substitute the unfinished blu ray footage, I used Adywan’s 97 ESB footage. It’ll likely be obvious that it uses the HD 2004 broadcast footage, but it at least completes the scene for the time being.

The other thing I’m going to do is make further adjustments to make the colors match the Japanese laserdisc release. It has a much better color timing when compared to the US one and while the colors on the current version likely resemble the Japanese master to begin with, having a video reference on hand would help a lot.

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#1392674
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Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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CatBus said:

AntcuFaalb said:

PJ said:

Hey does anyone recommend a painless way of matching the frame size of two different sources? I’m trying to align footage from the 2020 Bluray of ESB to Harmy’s ESB Despecialized and I just can’t get it right.

BUnwarpJ

It’s just a jump to the left

You mean just sliding the frame to the left in general?

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#1389311
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George's Alternate Altered Trilogy (AKA, The GAAT) (ANH V1 Released)
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It goes without saying the Special Editions are a hot mess of issues. Some of the additions are neat, while others are needless additions at best. It also goes without saying that many people over the years have constructed their own ideas of how the special editions could have been handled. About two years ago, I decided to make my own fan edit of A New Hope, mainly focusing on revamping the sound mix. But as time went on, I felt the need to make changes outside of the sound mix and branch off into the color timing and editing. So, after putting the project on the back burner, I’m proud to present my plans for the GAAT (George’s Alternate Altered Trilogy).

To set things straight, this project serves as a “what-if” alternative to the 2004/2011 master. George Lucas wanted to commemorate the finality of the Prequel trilogy by re-releasing the Original Trilogy on DVD, which as many know is seen as one of the worst releases the original trilogy. The color timing by far is the biggest problem alongside the additional material inserted into the film. My approach to fixing these issues is to remove the more annoying SE changes such as Greedo shooting first and CGI Jabba, while providing a more modern sound mix using SFX from the later projects Skywalker Sound contributed to. I also took the time to alter the color timing, but still maintained it’s overall look. George, after all, wanted these releases to resemble the look of the prequel films, and while I’m fine with something like that, I don’t remember the prequels looking like they were color matched to a bag of sour skittles.

To summarize, the point of this project is to say, “what-if the mastering wasn’t rushed and someone looked at what George was pushing for and said, 'I see what you’re doing, but you’re going too far in a few places.”

Here’s what I have with each film so far. This is includes what’s already set in place and what I plan to do. Currently, I only have ANH nearly done. It should be pointed out that when I began the edit of ANH, I only had the 2004 DVDs at my disposal, so the soundmix may inherit some of the “swapped audio channel” problems. Frankly, I never noticed it myself. I Haven’t touch the other two yet, but I have an idea of what I want to do with them. Since I now own the 2011 blu rays, All footage will be sourced from that.

A New Hope (WIP):
-Reduction of saturation in footage, increase in exposure of footage.
-Remixed Audio with additional SFX and adjustments in EQ layered over the 2004 mix.
-During the Tantive IV scene, Leia’s blaster sounds like a Naboo pistol from The Phantom Menace.
-The Rocks in front of R2 are gone.
-When Luke and Ben are confronted by Stormtroopers, the creature that walks in front of the camera is removed.
-Han Shoots First.
-Jabba is removed entirely.
-The Obi Wan vs Vader duel is re-edited using color matched footage from “Scene 38 Reimagined” along with my own custom soundmix. Widescreen matte and grain is added to the footage to help it blend in with the blu ray footage.
-The music during the Death Star attack is no longer drowned out. I did my best to raise the volume.
-Just after red leader tries firing at the Death Star exhaust port, he longer says “negative” twice in a row.

Empire Strikes Back (Haven’t begun yet):
-Reduction of saturation in footage, increase in exposure of footage
-Remixed Audio with additional SFX and adjustments in EQ layered over the 2011 sound mix.

Return of the Jedi (WIP):
-Remixed Audio with additional SFX and adjustments in EQ layered over the 2011 sound mix.
-Additional Boba Fett Voice lines.
-Additional production footage inserted into the lightsaber duel on the Death Star II.
-Vader doesn’t shout “NOOOOOOOOO.”
-Sebastian Shaw is restored in the Endor Celebration.

What’s interesting is that, at least when talking about ANH, I wanted to have two different versions available for viewing. Both of them follow two different “What-if” scenarios.

-Version A:
This is the version that follows George’s goal of having a modern color timing that matches the look of the prequels while adjusting parameters to alleviate the visual problems present in the 2004/2011 release.

-Version B:
-This version does the same thing many people have suggested where instead of making a brand new master, Lucasfilm simply updated the 1997 color timing. For this, I’ll be using my 1997 regrade project that I recently finished. Link here if you’re interested: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/anh-1997-inspired-regrade-with-se-soundmix-version-1-released/id/80173

So far, I only plan on having multiple versions for ANH. I’m debating whether to do the same for the other two films.

Sources:
-ANH:
-2004 DVD
-2011 Blu Ray
-My ANH 1997 Inspired Regrade
-Harmy’s Despecialized
-Scene 38 Reimagined

-ESB
-Adywan’s 1080p 1997 ESB
-2011 Blu Ray

-ROTJ
-2011 Blu Ray
-Production Footage
-Evolution of The Lightsaber Duel
-Harmy’s Despecialized

Things to fix with Version 2 of ANH:
-Alleviate some of the color matching problems.
-Replace Obi-Wan’s monster call with his original Krayt Dragon call.
-Remove the rocks in front of R2.
-ATTEMPT to fix the swapped audio channels in certain shots.
-Further tweaks to the sound mix.

Since I want to have the soundmix sound the best it can, I would really appreciate any and all constructive criticism on it.

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#1386742
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ANH 1997 Inspired Regrade with SE Soundmix (Version 2 Released, Version 3 W.I.P.)
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I need some second opinions. Same as before, I’m having trouble with coloring the Death Star Attack. Everything is color matched, but what I’m struggling with is the overall color pallet. Because there aren’t many scans of the Death Star Attack, this is a section I feel I might have to take some creative liberties with. Below is a link to some screenshots that show the different coloring approaches I’ve taken. I’ve included the unaltered footage from the 2020 blu ray but kept the increased exposure so you can see everything in similar detail. The other two approaches include one with cyan replacing the shades of purple and the other one has warmer midtones.

Example 1:
-Unaltered https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QjUXYNDR0ocMfgovOrFRUU1CThljYeZA/view?usp=sharing
-Cyan only https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oL-mfT5Qx23i_CLFHl680qEvybAFAB-K/view?usp=sharing
-Cyan with Warmer Midtones https://drive.google.com/file/d/12GHPy2rsQ951dhIQF4l7jCNj643aupJa/view?usp=sharing

Example 2:
-Unaltered https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hZR5mrK0Z1QreWiyo2tr5olVMd__9XUo/view?usp=sharing
-Cyan only https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v3bvFSE7aqPaPvYTZj-LwdeAlKEnxOyd/view?usp=sharing
-Cyan with Warmer Midtones https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M1lAtrhsGWJ8-2-7gSG-vBxYlxCRXXeZ/view?usp=sharing

Example 3:
-Unaltered https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pfvXLhnLm7TD-bL8KKj9Z4Ym8NvmwTTq/view?usp=sharing
-Cyan only https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OS7e3saaAY0F6SnCn7H7YvdhKzGF-rH2/view?usp=sharing
-Cyan with Warmer Midtones https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sxVEIPw1LttGB6vAQatPNn1mw9pmzsw8/view?usp=sharing

Example 4:
-Unaltered https://drive.google.com/file/d/116ekRUDIEzDtGpzfT-rSLlqoAxxmLmEs/view?usp=sharing
-Cyan only https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XxXVhMcTEO3CUajtZ92TJvDJG9Ssngd2/view?usp=sharing
-Cyan with Warmer Midtones https://drive.google.com/file/d/17b_qIR6FJMR0C6tZ-q7iEDJ-8HKsqmLZ/view?usp=sharing