Octorox

AxiaEuxine said:

I realise its his edit and I totaly respect that. I didnt know my post was going to be so negative until I was halfway through it and by then I had done too much work to delete it. :)

I just wish someone who actually LIKED the prequels would do an edit. I would if I had the time, talent, resources, patience blah blah blah

You might want to look at the various extended editions. ADM's Episode III is also nearly untouched with a few deleted scenes reinserted.

ChainsawAsh said:

Ah, so you're saying that the beginning of, say, track 10 will repeat the end of track 9, preventing a more natural transition?

yes. That's what I mean

GoodMusician said:

I'm sorry I don't quite follow... I think what you mean is what I'm takling about... how sometimes I don't have a clean ending or opening, sometimes a track will start with how one ends... not much I can do really... I try to add a couple seconds inbetween of dead air that would help but still...

 

I just mean that I'm not sure what I can do... I don't use iTunes... I abhore it

I'm sorry. What I mean is that since it is a musical score, tracks generally flow directly into one another to make the complete score of the movie. iTunes has a feature called "gapless playback" to make this work in which there is no pause between tracks. Your tracks, however, have a couple of seconds of the same music at the end of one track, and the beginning of the next. Therefore, if I enable gapless playback, I here the same few notes repeated over again when the next track starts. I guess what I'd like you to do is cut the tracks so that the next one picks up exactly where the last left off.

Star wars is not sci-fi, it is FANTASY. It's always been about cool planets and cool aliens and cool ships, Star Wars is very much about style. And I suppose you real chinese emperors and european nobles looked silly too. I think the OT costumes look silly, why would a princess wear a white sheet and a city administrator wear "dress down day" clothes with a cape? The OT costumes made no sense. The ornateness of the PT costumes re more realistic than the thrown together OT costumes.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/003-The_Imperial_Portrait_of_a_Chinese_Emperor_called_%22Xianfeng%22.JPG

GoodMusician said:

overlap? gaplesS?

 

If I'm understanding what your asking, the answer is no. It only takes about 5 seconds to layer the tracks if that's wha tyou desire. My intention was to create a veritable resource of John Williams music... trying to track down and present it as recorded...all of it... endings and all... if in some cases, I can find a clean ending but no beginning to the next cue, I do my best... but I would recomend downloading something and just layering them if it bothers you tha tmuch.

sorry I meant that there is a few seconds of the same music between tracks, therefore, If I set iTunes to play one after another with no silence gap between the tracks, its not a smooth transition.

GoodMusician said:

He did... I just spoke to him and it would seem he's had a hard drive crash... I know people out there have his sets but... suffice it to say... it doesn't look good

 

I get it, I can already hear you all

 

"You're my only hope" I get it... lol

 

I' can't promise much... I'm gonna see what I can do. The reason I've not wanted to release my sets lately is also to deal with the issue that we have a lot of new discoveries that I just havn't been aroudn for...so... I'm gonna try to redo my set. I've already begun work on Episode I.

 

I'm going to then forward the work to Ggctuk who knows things I don't, and ge this input...and in the end... I hope to ahve the best set out there.

 

I'm going to update a few tracks from Episode III as well with the newly realized material... and past a few tweaks here and there, The sets will be reuploaded...

 

I'm ... sorry again for the lack of time... life... you know? heh

 

Anyway... soon

Hey, if you redo your sets anyway you could make them gapless? As they now stand, there is a bit of overlap between tracks.

lol, yeah, the faces were in different positions so they ears screwed up

darthmunky said:

Matticon said:

Hello Everyone.

I have been looking for a PAL DVD9 copy of ANH:R. There is no torrents up. Could someone PM me if they have a copy or know how to get one?

I have the inferior DVD9 NSTC version.

Matticon

Why is that one inferior?

 

It's not really "Inferior" NTSC just has a slightly lower res than PAL. If you are in a NTSC region I would stick with NTSC.

oopps...double thread post, mods please delete or merge

Hey, I got a cool program for Mac called MorphX that allows you morph two pictures together in a video. I used it to create:

Anakin between Epsiodes I and II

Obi-Wan between Episodes III and IV

And um....Jar Jar transforming into Vader....

I'll post videos later....

C3PX said:

Perhaps it is just because you are so used to seeing the crystal clear, clean and bubbly, overly bright, wet & soapy 2004 versions?

If anything the DVDs are too dark and high contrast with botched colors, they are no way "overly bright". The restoration is actually great aside from the crushed blacks and whites and the color correction. The GOUT DVDs on the other hand, are grainer than any LD preservation...maybe it's just because they are sharper, maybe not. There is certainly some dupe grain on them.

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Octorox said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

vaderios said:

Star wars has always black space. This making the difference from the other movies that enhance the space with nebulas and other stuff.But w8 why a nebula in a star wars shot? Lets say this shot got an OT makeover.

-Angel

 

 Again, Vaderios, this is great! I think Adywan should definantly go down this road when he gets to the PT:R. I also hope Adywan will mimick the style of shots seen in the OT (more pan/tilt/zoom/static shots). Not all space shots HAVE to have the camera doing "fancy" movements...hmm...it's also the movement of the ships. Sometimes the ships in the PT are moving so fast (or maybe it's because they're CGI) and crazy they look and seem weightless.

Vaderios, just for fun...can you tackle a few other shots from the PT? Naboo space battle...Jango/Obi space chase...ROTS opening battle...?

Umm...they are weightless. lol

 

lol well....I hope you know what I mean. It's hard to put into words...but the look and movement of the ships in the OT have (IMHO) a completely different feeling than in the PT. I think it comes down to CGI rendering/lighting and animation. Some of the ships don't "feel" tangible. ALL of the ships in the OT have that tangible feeling. That's becuase the ships in the OT were actual tangible models that were lit with real lights (not virtual ones) and then filmed with a motion control camera. Also the animators of the OT seem to understand that the ships needed to move like airplanes...like what we know in the real world. They got it right in a few shots in the PT-...usually those shots involved actual models.

I never minded the outer space effects in the PT. Cg ships is no t as big a deal for me as cg creatures. In contrast, some of the ships in the OT can sometimes look 2 dimensional because of the compositing abilities available at the time.

Sluggo said:

That is so wizard.

 

Anyone see any non-Star Wars Jake Lloyd movies lately?

lol nope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Lloyd

He doesn't look anything like Hayden lol

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

vaderios said:

Star wars has always black space. This making the difference from the other movies that enhance the space with nebulas and other stuff.But w8 why a nebula in a star wars shot? Lets say this shot got an OT makeover.

-Angel

 

 Again, Vaderios, this is great! I think Adywan should definantly go down this road when he gets to the PT:R. I also hope Adywan will mimick the style of shots seen in the OT (more pan/tilt/zoom/static shots). Not all space shots HAVE to have the camera doing "fancy" movements...hmm...it's also the movement of the ships. Sometimes the ships in the PT are moving so fast (or maybe it's because they're CGI) and crazy they look and seem weightless.

Vaderios, just for fun...can you tackle a few other shots from the PT? Naboo space battle...Jango/Obi space chase...ROTS opening battle...?

Umm...they are weightless. lol

No, I'm not talking about Jumper. I just saw "Shattered Glass" a docudrama about Stephen Glass, a fraudulent journalist who worked as a writer for The New Republic magazine. I have to say that I no longer think Hayden is a terrible actor. He certainly has his niche and is by no means "versatile" but I was surprised that he was able to evoke so much sympathy and emotional scenes seemed pretty real. The delivery of some lines felt eerily reminiscent of Star Wars but overall the performance wasn't bad. I think Hayden was either miscast or misdirected or both as Anakin but he's not all that terrible of actor if put in the right role. 

The vid you posted before with color correction has a green tint. You need to work a little more on CC than clean up I think.

Yeah, I know this isn't completely Star Wars related but has anyone heard of the red one camera system? It's a digital camera that shoots in 4k as opposed to 1080p resolution.

Here's a high-res screencap from one of Peter Jackson's short films.

http://www.red.com/skin/img/gallery-still/005634.jpg

I wonder if the prequels would have looked better if they were shot with something like this (obviously the tech wasn't available at the time)

So did anyone know that the "flipper" was actually originally in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcOeKwvNJ0w

Very nice...but no more AT-ATs? :( I really loved the shot in your trailer with all the extra AT-ATs

lol but prolly better for the "off-topic" board.

the People vs. George is already close enough, and deals with the SE and the prequels. I see no reason for multiple similar documentaries.

Vaderisnothayden said:

Octorox said:

Blackjack said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

TheDoctor1987 said:

I for one love the Prequel Trilogy for what it is and have no complaints with it well besides that dreaded character Jar Jar Binks lol. Its not the Original Trilogy nor was it intended to be the Original Trilogy but what it was suppost to be was the back story the story that every Star Wars fan wanted to see for years and it 1999 we got it with The Phantom Menace with the story of Anakin Skywalker. I think people should let this topic rest because the Prequels are great movies and people just need to let it have its legacy in the Star Wars Saga. 

 

The prequels are NOT the backstory that everybody waited to see. Before that original backstory became the prequels it went through significant changes and got a whole lot of stuff added that was invented probably in the 90s. For example, Anakin was supposed to be in his thirties or forties when he turned to the dark side, which would have made him a very different sort of character. He was probably originally an adult when he met Kenobi, so no little kid running around. There was no Jar Jar and no Qui Gon. Probably no Jango either I'd guess. Dooku wasn't invented, or Grievous or probably Maul. It would have been a different sort of story. A lot of things would have been done differently if the prequels had been made faithful to the backstory Lucas had when he made the OT. The prequels are not the old backstory, they are a revisionist take on that story, which changes the nature of it and makes it something very much at odds with the OT.

The "legacy" of the prequels is Star Wars being rubbed in shit and losing respect. That's their legacy. We don't need to accept that. The prequel trilogy is not a rightful part of the saga and deserves to be rejected. Great movies my ass.

exactly. I can only imagine how much better the original backstory would have been. the big one is that "Mrs. Skywalker" (since she probably was not named Padme at that point) survives anakin's turn, and Anakin didn't even know she was pregnent before he "left". Imagine the drama that could have come out of that.

and since Padme and Anakin would then be closer in age, their relationship would have been much easier to swallow because then Anakin more or less wouldn't be falling in love with his babysitter. (the romance would be handled better, too if anyone other than lucas were to do the writing)

 

 

I'm sorry but how do you guys know that this was the original OT backstory? Did you just assume it? I heard none of this in the OT. 

 

No I didn't just assume it. I picked up the info from various sources. See the Annotated Screnplays for Anakin's age, for example.

 

The screenplay is not the movie. Stuff gets written or even shot and not included all the time. There was likely a reason for not putting it in the movie.

Blackjack said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

TheDoctor1987 said:

I for one love the Prequel Trilogy for what it is and have no complaints with it well besides that dreaded character Jar Jar Binks lol. Its not the Original Trilogy nor was it intended to be the Original Trilogy but what it was suppost to be was the back story the story that every Star Wars fan wanted to see for years and it 1999 we got it with The Phantom Menace with the story of Anakin Skywalker. I think people should let this topic rest because the Prequels are great movies and people just need to let it have its legacy in the Star Wars Saga. 

 

The prequels are NOT the backstory that everybody waited to see. Before that original backstory became the prequels it went through significant changes and got a whole lot of stuff added that was invented probably in the 90s. For example, Anakin was supposed to be in his thirties or forties when he turned to the dark side, which would have made him a very different sort of character. He was probably originally an adult when he met Kenobi, so no little kid running around. There was no Jar Jar and no Qui Gon. Probably no Jango either I'd guess. Dooku wasn't invented, or Grievous or probably Maul. It would have been a different sort of story. A lot of things would have been done differently if the prequels had been made faithful to the backstory Lucas had when he made the OT. The prequels are not the old backstory, they are a revisionist take on that story, which changes the nature of it and makes it something very much at odds with the OT.

The "legacy" of the prequels is Star Wars being rubbed in shit and losing respect. That's their legacy. We don't need to accept that. The prequel trilogy is not a rightful part of the saga and deserves to be rejected. Great movies my ass.

exactly. I can only imagine how much better the original backstory would have been. the big one is that "Mrs. Skywalker" (since she probably was not named Padme at that point) survives anakin's turn, and Anakin didn't even know she was pregnent before he "left". Imagine the drama that could have come out of that.

and since Padme and Anakin would then be closer in age, their relationship would have been much easier to swallow because then Anakin more or less wouldn't be falling in love with his babysitter. (the romance would be handled better, too if anyone other than lucas were to do the writing)

 

 

I'm sorry but how do you guys know that this was the original OT backstory? Did you just assume it? I heard none of this in the OT. 

http://www.robotchicken.org/index.php?title=The_Rebels_Won

Hmm...it does look sharper and more vibrant but the contrast does really make it too dark