Anyway we can replace Hayden with Chris Pine and remove Ewan's mullet? (jk) But seriously I thought Pine as Kirk was way closer to what Anakin should have been.
Okay I may just be high on Star Trek right now but....
I think this could have worked. Some things about Pine's performance as Kirk actually reminded me a lot of Hammil, particularly his laugh, but he can also be sort of a Han Solo badass without losing the Lukeish charm of a young Jedi trainee. I think Pine's Kirk is a lot closer to how Anakin should have been played than how Hayden played it as kind of a dark, foreboding, moody, angsty teenager. Of course at this point, I'm not sure if I'd want to see Kirk and Anakin as the same actor...
P.S. I also hated Ewan's Jedi Mullet
I would love to see this done for the prequels. It would also be great if you could isolate voices from sound effects as well.
adywan said:rcb said:can u imagine yoda just hoping around with no expressions?
yeh. its was called AOTC & ROTS. lol
getting a bit off topic here but i just had to share this with the guys not in the UK
It's been done before, and better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkTQwP2gFxU&feature=related
Fast forward to the part where vader enters
Gaffer Tape said:Yeah, but like canofhumdingers said, it's not just big, extremely noticeable sequences like that. Every special effects shot was recomposited and would require branching.
I find that hard to believe when transparencies, matte lines and crappy sabers and lasers still exist in the SEs.
hmmm.....I won't say anything yet because I don't want to make any promises I can't keep. You may have to wait for summer for real production to start because I have a lot on my agenda right now.
SO I don't even know if I'll really ever get to this edit (I deleted the original stuff anyway) but I cut a trailer because I was bored and wanted to make a ROTS trailer. Take a look:
http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/octolink_64/?action=view¤t=rotstrailer.flv
Here's mine for ROTS
http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/octolink_64/?action=view¤t=rotstrailer.flv
Oldfan said:EyeShotFirst said:Oldfan said:"Jurassic Park was a great example of how even early cgi, done right, has a place in film"
They did use alot of elements besides just cgi they even used puppets for the head. That movie was way ahead of its time. I saw the documentary of it. They were gonna use stop motion animation. But they pushed technology. I don't think any film in the past 10 years has raised the bar quite like jurrassic park. They made me sink in my chair with the raptors. It is just a beautiful film. I wish spielberg would make films like he did from the late 70's to early 90's. His works were always so beautiful.
I agree. I think another outstanding example of cgi is Final Fantasy:The Spirits Within. I realize that many did not like the storyline, but I think that as far as an animated film goes, it still stands tall as one of the best, visually speaking. And check out Vexille also. Mind-boggling animation.
And yeah Disney disgusts me nowadays. They had such beautiful animation. My girlfriend owns all the classics. I can't believe they dropped traditional animation in favor of all cgi. Walt would be crying if he were alive, but then it wouldn't have happened that way.
Now back to topic...
2D animation has returned to Disney! Look Up "The Princess and The Frog". Also, Vaderios, Pixar is amazing, no one is allowed to say anything bad about Pixar >:( Wall-E was awesome and UP was also awesome (saw a pre-release screening)
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:Alright here we go, ben_danger :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKtom9v3kL4
wow like the OT music :)
Bingowings said:I'm all for a few subtle references to the prequels, I mentioned the neckless earlier but I'm not too keen on flashbacks unless it's in a Godfather 2 type saga re-edit where they can be a meatier.
I would love to add a few whispers to the cave sequence in ESB (I mentioned giving the lizards and snakes a few subliminal connections to fallen Sith Lords, red and black markings, sith eyes etc, it is a dreamscape so you can get away with a bit of trickery there).
The odd Clone War era ship in the fleet of ROTJ would be welcome too, all those weapons would have to go somewhere (either to a wreckers yard or sold on on the black market) and that works both ways I'd love to see OT ships in pristine condition in PT too.
Outside of Ady's ANH:R I'd like to see the family graveyard put into the Lars homestead and the readout lights from AOTC's Garage being put into the ANH garage.
Nothing as stand out obvious as sticking Hayden's head onto Seb Shaw's neck but little touches that people who look for them can notice (like having the battledroid in the Sandcrawler in ANH:R).
On a seperate subject I've searched high and low and not managed to find a good isolated shot of the Endor deflector dish at night (without a ship or building in front of it) if anyone has or finds one I would be very grateful if you could send it to me in PM.
The last mockup I did is mostly Angel's work (I just added a bit to it to prove the concept of adding a waterfall to his pan) I'm sure he could do a much better job and hope he will give it a go when he is less busy.
It might be nice if as well as having the platform the Imperials had a hanger for launching bombers and the like on the other side :
I have a very big version of the background image if anyone else want to play about with it drop me a PM.
OMG....i LOVE epic LOTR Endor
Vaderisnothayden said:The first Matrix film has its merits, but it's sorely overrated. The other Matrix films are better than they're given credit for but they're nothing great. Critics and university courses have all sorts of silly ideas about films and shouldn't be paid attention to. There's a lot of pretention going on about The Matrix. Another cyberpunk film which gets a lot of pretentious reaction is Bladerunner. The setting is good and Harrison Ford is good, but that's about it. The film doesn't work very well and is terribly disappointing. It's even worse with the director's cut making Deckard a bleedin replicant, which is NOT what Harrison was playing.
And surely you know better than the experts?
any idea which webdoc? I have them as special features on the DVD but I don't want to sift through them all.
vaderios said:RoccondilRinon said:I took was that it was an actual airlock thing (so not necessary in the atmosphere)
Its a polluted atmosphere lol
Ben hur?
-Angel
now THAT I like
C3PX said:AxiaEuxine said:I would recast Laurence Fishburne as Mace, basically have him play Morpheus as a Jedi...ahhhh yeeeeah
Sio Bibble....anyone else, does anyone else find that guy annoying? Ric Olie too, anyone else.
Oh, dude! You just came up with the one idea that could possible make me hate the prequels more. Morpheus as a Jedi! The very thought makes me feel like tossing my computer across the room. I will probably end up having nightmares about this tonight. Believe it or not, I actually hate... nay... loathe the Matrix movies about ten times as much as the prequels. When I think about The Matrix and the prequels together, the prequels give me a warm fuzzy feeling. I'd eagarly sit through the entire PT back to back, to avoid having to watch a single Matrix film. That is how very much I absolutely cannot even begin to tolerate the mere possibility of even having the potenial to be able to stand these awful, awful, awful, awful films. Bunch of mindless tripe that totally pisses on intelligent thought in every way imaginable. The very thought of their existence offends me greatly.
Phew! Sorry about that, just had to get it out of my system. I feel much better now.
Back to the topic, I do find Sio Whatever (if he is who I think he is) to be a bit annoying, but there is so many worse things going on around him, and he is such a minor part with very little screen time, I really don't mind him. And Ric Ollie is downright awesome! Cracks me up every time. He is the much needed comic relief in that movie. Toss Jar Jar and Threepio's over the top antics out the window, we don't need them. Ric Ollie is a character that lets you have a little chuckle at the movie without completely ruining it. In fact, I think I would have liked AOTC and ROTS better had Ric been in them (okay, maybe not, but I do love Ric).
Really? I thought the first one was really good. I never saw the other two. It's just fun action movie 0.o?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6yeMdR73Y&feature=related
The scene at 2:45, I believe it’s deleted, there’s also a screencap here
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/6/6f/Obipadme.jpg/180px-Obipadme.jpg
I want to toy with Anakin’s dream sequences in an edit…
*drools*
I really loved the Peter Jackson's King Kong game. That was a great game-movie tie in.
C3PX said:I think unknowns were the way to go. And I actually really liked most of the prequel casting. I think Natalie Portman is a decent actress, very beautiful, and worthy to be the mom of Leia. I can't think of any one I would rather have as Padme than her, it is only that... eh... can't get into that, because I don't want to break the rules...
Ewan McGregor was great as Obi-Wan, but under used in The Phantom Menace. He was good enough in the other movies from a looks and ton standpoint, but...
And for Palpatine, who better than the guy who played him in Return of the Jedi? But again...
I also really liked the idea of Samuel L. Jackson playing a Jedi master...
Liam Neeson was downright awesome as Qui-Gon...
Who better to voice Yoda than Frank Oz...
Terrence Stamp as Cancelor Valorum, freakin awesome! Who could possible complain about having Stamp in an SW movie, geek dream come true.
Christopher Lee in a Star Wars movie, seriously, this is some exciting stuff, but...
The only character I'd call into question are Hayden and the guy who played Jango. I haven't seen Hayden in anything else, but I am not so sure he was actually all that bad for the part either, I think the break down was elsewhere..
They could have cast just about anyone else in the role of Jango, like an orangatang for example, or someone with down syndrom, and it would have been a vast improvement. My ideal Clone Trooper template/Boba Fett template/Boba's father would beyond a doubt be Michael Biehn (come on, you all know it would have been awesome). That is always the sort of face I imagined behind Fett's mask.
You know, with the exeption of Jango, I actually felt the casting on the PT was damn near perfect, for the main characters at least. It was probably the absolutely best part of the PT, in my opinion.
Might just be me, but I am thinking the problem with the PT isn't in the casting, but that it lies elsewhere, somewhere... elusive...
Yeah, the casting wasn't that bad, except for Hayden, I thought Sam Jackson was miscast as Windu also, and I actually liked the Jango guy but I hate how they used his voice in ESB. Honestly, Lucas's scripts may have been the biggest issue, but he wrote the scripts for the OT as well, didn't he? I wonder if there's an actor in the world who could make "I don't like sand..." a convincing pickup line...
Also, to clarify, It's okay to prequel bash as long as you address the question.
Some find acting and casting to be one of the biggest faults of the prequels. If you were in charge of casting for the prequels, who would you cast in all the major roles?
Rules:
You must keep in mind that you are casting for movies that were released in 99' 02' and 05'
You must cast based on the scripts written by George Lucas, for example, if you cast an older actor as Anakin he will have to utter the same dialogue that Hayden does and may seem miscast.
you may Cast voice actors and minor characters as well
You may keep some of the same actors but please treat this as if you were casting from scratch
You can cast crew: directors, editors ect. but it's still GLs scripts.
Most of all, have fun and don't turn this into a prequel bashing thread. Talk about why your choice is better, not just why the real actors sucked. Pot pics if possible.
Even Abrams admits he went too far with the Lens flares
http://io9.com/5230278/jj-abrams-admits-star-trek-lens-flares-are-ridiculous
Expect to see them toned down a bit in the next film.
ChainsawAsh said:vaderios said:
-Angel
That's AWESOME! Why do so many PT shots have the same color with so little variation? Perhaps that's part of why the colors were so fucked for the 2004 DVD - there are a lot of shots that used to have nice color variation that now look like they were shot black and white and had a color filter placed over it, just like the above AOTC shot.
Well I mean it WAS supposed to be a sunset shot....there's no hint of that in Vaderios's version. But I see what you mean. Honestly, the more colors the faker the cgi looks...it looks like spykids or something
Janskeet said:Tobar said:Janskeet said:vaderios said:Ady already uses HD versions to make ESB ;)
-Angel
I'm talking about the blu-ray version LFL will eventually have to come out with.
Any official blu-ray release will likely just be the same thing that was released on DVD and broadcast in HD. Adywan is using the (was it german?) HD broadcast of ESB to create his edit. So when times comes to release it there'll be a regular DVD release as well as an HD release (in I believe 720p).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only way to get 1080p is blu-ray, right? I know Ady is using an HD broadcast, but it isn't true HD because it is not 1080p right?
no, he is using 1080p broadcasts. He just doesn't have the power or resources to do all of his compositing and effects in 1080p, plus he is taking some elements from the GOUT
skyjedi2005 said:Ebert's Review even though only 2 and a half stars out of four is over all positive. I wonder if Hunter6 actually read it.
The opening thing he says really struck me though and is over all a condemnation of the new film.
“Star Trek” as a concept has voyaged far beyond science fiction and into the safe waters of space opera, but that doesn’t amaze me. The Gene Roddenberry years, when stories might play with questions of science, ideals or philosophy, have been replaced by stories reduced to loud and colorful action. Like so many franchises, it’s more concerned with repeating a successful formula than going boldly where no “Star Trek” has gone before."
Which i find curious because he does not explore this in the same context of star wars. Did not this same man like Episode III. Geez i mean the prequels were space opera "more concerned with repeating a sucessful formula" Was this dude even paying attention.
I knew in the beginning this movie would be a throwaway action flick just like some of the previous entries the actioners were more sucessful than the cerebral motion picture the rodenberry trek that stalled in space dock and was revived to new life in the wrath of khan. First Contact and Khan were sucessful action flicks. Insurrection was a lesser entry though still good without lots of boxoffice returns, Nemesis repeated themes and added new ones and still was a flop.
Well if you read his Sith review, he basically said that Star Wars was always just a space opera about seeing fun and imaginative new places and things. He felt TPM and ROTS both did that. Star Trek and Star Wars are very different beasts. And anyway, he knew that AOTC sucked so he's okay with me.
Someone should do a fan film "a day in the life of Yoda" that goes through Yoda's daily routine on Dagobah from making breakfast to training with the force. I would honestly watch that if it was well done.
