Octorox

ChainsawAsh said:

Unfortunately, streaming quality isn’t as high as Blu-Ray quality would be. And also unfortunately, if it’s not released on physical disc or, at minimum, a purchaseable download (versus streaming subscriptions), working on an edit using material from it would mean that edit can’t be discussed at fanedit.org or listed on IFDb due to their extremely strict “own the source” rule.

Sadly, though, I agree - it’s unlikely that The Mandalorian will be released on physical media in the forseeable future.

If something isn’t commercially available on physical media, I feel like being subscribed to the service where it is commercially available should count as “owning the source” for the purposes of fanediting. Either way you’re circumventing copy protection, which isn’t strictly speaking legal due to the DMCA in the US. As media moves from an ownership model to a subscription model this will become more and more of a problem for faneditors.

I’m a dirty praxis effect apologist. Honestly I think that without the praxis ring, the explosions look pretty obviously like miniature effects. I don’t think that’s inherently a bad thing but the sense of scale isn’t really there.

SparkySywer said:

Octorox said:

Captain Rex (from Clone Wars and Rebels) in Return of the Jedi

That’s already Captain Rex. No need for any effects. The character in the Clone Wars was inspired by that extra, that’s already him.

I know. However the actor looks nothing like Temeura Morrison, the actor who plays all the Clones in the prequel films. The idea was just to improve continuity by making the connection more explicit.

RogueLeader said:

Huh, that Rex one is pretty cool. I’m guessing deepfaking the rebel would be a challenge considering the beard.

Is that a still image of the Death Troopers or a 3D model?

Yeah I don’t know anything about deepfakes so I’m not sure how you could accomplish it. For the still image I just used a photo of Morrison from the film Mahana and blended it with the original Nik Sant beard.:

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/ff0cb4a9f048f036e5430554e47103a430a9889e/0_48_1275_766/master/1275.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=69335747bdd0c052f1e3f7ad7f2e1221

As for the Death Troopers, they’re still images of an action figure actually. Like I said, quick and dirty XD. I think to make it convincing in motion you’d need to film actors in front of a green screen.

An editor on YouTube did some interesting dialogue replacements for Boba Fett using lines from Battlefront II, some which work better than others:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy2OqQIS-ps&list=PLtj-aNFWYd8ic2j58QfpOQkx8NDyPVfVe&index=7

Also If you ever wanted to know what a chatty Boba Fett would sound like…well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5GFSjbZK_A

Made some quick and dirty Photoshop mockups of ideas to make the OT fit better with some of the supplementary material. I think these would be pretty difficult to execute but just thought I’d share the ideas.

Captain Rex (from Clone Wars and Rebels) in Return of the Jedi:

Death Troopers (from Rogue One, Rebels and The Mandalorian) in A New Hope:

ZaneFlare92 said:

I remember at one time you had a Extended Edition with alternate ending if im not mistaken. Is it possible that a V2 with the extended alternate ending will get a release???

It’s unlikely. I’ve found that the demand for the version with alternate ending just wasn’t enough to justify using my limited Google Drive space on it. If you’re interested in the alternate ending, I think you might as well go for Hal9000’s full edit “Labyrinth of Evil”

FYI a fixed version has been uploaded and is available the usual way.

MaggiPower said:

Is there any way that you could make a Version without the Qui-Gon audio from the Clone Wars? Without it, your extended edition would be the definitive way for me to watch Episode III.

Hm, I mainly went with one audio track just to simplify things but if I end up doing another release I’ll consider having an option without the Clone Wars audio.

MalàStrana said:

Are you going to implement the new sequence idea you had for your fanedit ?

I wasn’t going to because technically that version cuts bits of footage out of the film (mainly Anakin looking at the datapad and Padme’s line “he came by this morning”) and therefore isn’t a pure extension. If there’s enough of a push for it I’d consider it though.

I haven’t yet, sorry 😦

I know Hal’s v5’s are on MySpleen but I’m not sure where else.

Has anyone been able to determine if the wacky editing changes from the Attack of the Clones Blu-Ray are still there?

DominicCobb said:

I’m curious how the other films fare. DNR on TPM? Teal tint on AOTC? Wipe or hard cut in ROTS?

Yeah I’m curious about the treatment the prequels got. Probably going to surf through later tonight.

I thumbed through bits of A New Hope in 1080p non-HDR and can confirm that the regrade looks a lot better regardless of those visual enhancements. I don’t know if it quite compares to some of the fan efforts here but it looks consistent with no strange blue/magenta tinting.

Huh, I actually really like this idea in theory, but without any scenes of Padme and Obi-Wan interacting, I don’t think the implication that she’s talking about Obi-Wan and not Anakin will be as a strong as needed to sell the idea. I’ll think on it.

It has just come to my attention that V2 has a significant sync issue. I’m going to pull it for now and will upload a new version when it’s fixed. Thanks for your patience everyone.

No need to apologize! I’m happy to see that my clip generated a lot of interesting discussion. I definitely agree that there are a lot of half-explored ideas regarding Anakin’s motivation to turn. Rogue, could you elaborate on your idea of restructuring the seeds of Rebellion scenes? That sounds interesting.

I made some tweaks using the suggestions everyone provided. Check out the new clip here and let me know if it works any better: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11NGXtfg4OkEtHo4gHZJCNp0qaz8hYZke/view?usp=sharing

NeverarGreat said:
I think the change is worth trying, but I think most of the issue is actually with the Anakin/Padme scene following the office scene. Anakin immediately acts suspicious because Obi-wan has been there, and while that wasn’t too problematic in the original coming right after his departure for Utapau, now it feels odd since he has presumably been gone a full day at least. I also think that scene in general is too schizophrenic with Anakin going from mistrust of Obi-wan to weariness back to mistrust and then doubtful of his own abilities. Removing the exchange ‘I feel lost’ ‘Lost, what do you mean?’ might allow a more natural flow.

My intent with putting the two scenes in that order was to imply that Anakin is now suspicious not only because of Obi-Wan’s appearance in the second dream sequence but because of Palpatine’s suggestion that Padme is hiding something from him. In his mind, I imagine he’s having paranoid thoughts that the two of them conspiring together behind his back. I will try the edit you suggested, thanks.

Hal 9000 said:

I’d agree, but only for the hologram in Ep3, because of AOTC’s implication that he’s starting to deteriorate. It must have been somewhere between 2 and 3 that he started masking himself. At least if you go by that.

I don’t think AOTC’s implication that he’s starting to deteriorate is that strong or obvious. He just looks like a normal old man for the most part. Maybe a little more palid than he does in Episode 3 but not significantly so.

Don’t want to get anyone’s hopes up just yet but I’ve started tinkering with this again. Trying to find a narratively satisfying place to put the 3rd seeds of the rebellion scene and I think I may have finally cracked it. Borrowed a shot from Siliconmaster482’s edit which I believe was pulled from Attack of the Clones and flipped/color corrected.

Here is the clip: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ar3OOaZZGQ9oaf5ZGoqojil3Dj2Ugwy4

EDIT: Watching through it a few times, I may ultimately decide to wipe to the next scene after “Senator Amidala is hiding something, I can see it in her eyes”. Thoughts on that vs. how the clip currently plays?

Surprise! I made a V2 of this. It’s uploading as we speak and will be available via DM or on MySpleen. I will try to be better about responding to DMs in a timely manner.

Here are the changes from V1:
-The deleted scene in Bail’s Office is moved up by one scene and features new “sunset” color correction to better blend with the surrounding scenes (courtesy of Hal9000)
-The deleted scene in Palpatine’s Office is moved until after Obi-Wan touches down on Utapau, allowing for a less jarring transition.
-There is only a single audio track in this version. Yoda’s communion with Qui-Gon is included but I kept the original Vader scream since this is an Extended Edition and not a fanfix.
-Yoda’s exile to Dagobah is moved up by one scene, before Padme’s funeral. This allows for the original ending and it’s music to play out uninterrupted. (transition courtesy of Siliconmaster482)

I thought that joke was very much in keeping with Yoda’s warmth and playfulness in the OT and I wouldn’t want to see it removed.

Thanks GLogus. I just don’t have all that much time to dedicate to editing these days, but never say never.

However, it sounds like you might be interested in Hal’s V6 of LOE with Alternate Ending. It reinstates Padme’s death, and rolls back a couple of minor things that were cut in previous versions. Unfortunately it doesn’t bring back Yoda’s fight with Palpatine, but there’s always L8’s edit and SiliconMaster’s ‘Revenge of the Sith: Rebalanced’ for that.

I’ll definitely update this thread if I make any progress.

DougieP said:

An alternative to Ben on Hoth that I quickly made up. I used Hals change of “the” to “a”.
“There you will learn from Yoda, a Jedi Master.”
https://vimeo.com/368321068

Has anyone ever tried to fix Owen not recognising 3PO in 4? With 3PO having his memory wiped in 3, 3PO would still introduce himself to Owen. Maybe during this, Owen would butt in saying “3PO?” or something. Im not sure what lines are available. 3PO would respond with “Oh…” in confusion. Not really thought too much into this.

Good effort on the Yoda clip, but I think his inflection makes it sound odd to end the sentence there. I think “A Jedi master who instructed me” is fine personally.

So I took a look at V3 workprint (actually my first viewing of Legendary all the way through) and I have to say that I think it all worked really well! I’m in the camp that loved the movie to begin with, but I think the edits you made definitely make it feel tighter and more focused in places. The deleted scenes are also integrated really well and feel like they always should have been there.

A few minor nitpicks:

I personally don’t care for the removal of the “Triple TIE combo shot”. I think the Falcon’s entrance on Crait now feels underwhelming. It just kind of shows up.

If it’s possible to redub the parking violation alien with Abednedo language, I’d like to see it. It’s true that aliens with accented English are not new to Star Wars, but it feels like distinctly a prequel thing rather than an OT thing. It’s also one more element that makes Canto Bight feel more familiar than alien compared to other Star Wars locales.

I wonder if it would be possible to adjust Poe’s dialogue during the prank call scene so that he’s clearly saying “General Hux” rather than “General Hugs”. I think that’s one of the elements that still makes the scene feel a bit too cheeky considering what you’re going for with the rest of the edit.

ChainsawAsh said:

All this is EU crap. That line makes Vader seem weak and with no agency in the movie. It’s why Vader kinda sucks in ROTJ compared to ANH/ESB, at least until he brings Luke to the Emperor.

To be fair, it’s not EU, it’s prequel stuff. Ady has said that the prequels have no bearing on his edits though.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to see that line go. One can argue that it weakens Vader, but we already know Vader is powerful. If he’s so afraid of the Emperor, it must mean that the emperor is that much more powerful. Besides, the more Vader seems thoroughly whipped by the emperor, the more impactful it is when he gets the upper hand on him in the end.

Hal 9000 said:

Now that I am starting to turn some of my attention to THE LAST JEDI, I hate to make this edit much longer than it already is. It’s already the longest Star Wars movie, and when I consider that my prequel edits clock it at as low as 1 hour and 50 minutes, I am wondering what else could be trimmed.

I am just tossing this around, but what do you guys think of the idea to borrow poppasketti’s approach to removing the Finn vs. Phasma duel? Compared to the theatrical TLJ, this hypothetical version of Finn’s journey would…

• Add the orientation early on from the deleted scene with Poe’s jacket
• Reinstate a sense of “wow I guess people get oppressed” from the Canto Bight balcony (compared to TLJ:L V2, anyway)
• Remove Finn and Rose racking up insurance claims across Space Vegas
• Remove his fight with Phasma, but reinstating the scene that demonstrates his resolve and references the earlier deleted scene

It seems like Finn would still have a good arc this way. The only concern that sticks out to me about the idea is that Phasma gets reintroduced only to die offscreen. I’d rather she not appear in the film at all if we go this way, but this is the way it would have to be. For this reason, I am leaning away from making this change, but I felt it was worthwhile to toss out there for discussion.

I know you moved away from this idea, but have you thought at all about revisiting it, considering the new Phasma shots Poppasketti created for an upcoming version of his edit? I don’t know that I have a strong preference either way, but it would seem your main sticking point with the change has been solved.