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I agree that the arc released this week was by far the strongest of this season, but I disagree with a lot of people on these forums saying that first two arcs should have been truncated or skipped over. I think it’s all important setup and character work. Andor has always been a slow burn show where the tension broils up over time. Personally, I think this is one of the few Star Wars properties that I’m not all that interested in a fan edit of.

It would be cool to have two audio tracks, one with JEJ and one with Ryan Golden.

aGreatHumanBeing said:

If Padme says Obi-Wans name in that sentence, won’t that make it seem like he is the one she was talking about when she said she knows a jedi they should consult?

Yes, that’s the intention. To sort of slowly create a wedge between Padme and Anakin so when Anakin says “you’re with him!” (Meaning Obi-Wan) at the end of the film it makes a little more sense for him to think that. Earlier in the film, Padme asks Anakin to talk to Palpatine about letting diplomacy resume, and he shuts her down, so she realizes that she can’t really expect him to come through for her on this issue and pivots to Obi-Wan instead.

Personally I think it works better if you keep in a little more of Anakin’s paranoia around Obi-Wan, e.g. “Obi-Wan’s been here, hasn’t he. What did he want?” but I don’t think Hal is really interested in reinstating that bit.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

That works better than I imagined it would. Did you blend the AI and original delivery together?

Nope, I just generated several lines until I got the lip sync to match closely enough.

If yours works better I’m all for it. Here is mine in context: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-htGz0SJHKnjvBfpl40M62rXqhqAWR9l/view?usp=sharing

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Here are a few ones so far. My personal preference is #2 but I haven’t actually tested any of them:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CDGPUx7qz-QOwmsfZFM7hfj7fT0wdnNm?usp=sharing

And of course, if none of these are quite there yet, I can try adding in more voice samples to hone it in. This was just 37 seconds of her lines from the movie.

#2 sounds pretty good. Here’s the one I used in my edit:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RMVssc6jAGk1U7AVKd-0OwraBNyOUHN4/view?usp=drive_link

Hal 9000 said:

Wouldn’t it be a little silly for Padmé to blurt out a name?

Yeah I could see that. My thought was that she’s frustrated and lets it slip because she’s trying to push the other senators to allow her to contact him, but you’re probably right.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

If you’d be willing to slot it into your extended version of ROTS Octo I could look into that for you.

Thanks Jar Jar! I already have the line integrated into my “Another Happy Sanding” edit. I just didn’t put it in the extended version because the goal of that one is to stay as close to the original as possible.

If people are interested I can post a clip later.

If you’re bringing AI lines into the prequel trilogy, one change I made in my version of Ep III is to change Padme’s line in the second “Seeds of Rebellion” scene from “The Jedi aren’t any happier with the situation than we are” to “Obi-Wan isn’t any happier with the situation than we are.” I always felt it was a missed opportunity to not explicitly confirm that Obi-Wan was the Jedi Padme wanted to consult, since it makes Anakin’s later paranoia around Padme and Obi-Wan a bit more justified, and gives more credence to the idea that Padme is “hiding something”, as Palpatine tells Anakin. However, since you deleted the second dream sequence and some of Anakin’s paranoia in your edit, it may not make as much sense to go this route.

I was a little impatient with the Cassian arc at first but personally I wouldn’t cut anything. It’s such a singular work as-is. Maybe would be a cool to see an edit of each arc into a movie, with no episode title cards or credits until the end.

I slightly color corrected the probe scene further in my edit to match the surrounding footage but I’m not aware of a better source.

Huge improvement!

GregKnight06 said:

Hi 🙂
I never had the chance to see this edit.
Can I have a link please ?
Thanks 😀

Sure, please send me a PM.

21C Peasant said:

Like many others, when it came to the force ghost scene, I used to be an adamant Shaw supporter. I still like the original very much, but I’ve also come to see the merit in continuity between trilogies. The Kenobi show also sparked my interest in trying to come up with something that could possibly tie things together a bit better. Here’s something I put together using footage of Hayden’s face from recent interviews so that it’s more age-accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF55QWytYbE

This is a big improvement over the official version.

The Hal9000 ‘Custom Special Editions’ are the ones I recommend. They do retain the Sebastian Shaw ghost, but otherwise include several nods to continuity with the prequels. For example, In Empire Strikes Back, Obi-Wan’s ghost refers to Yoda as “A Jedi Master Who Instructed Me” rather than “The Jedi Master Who Instructed Me” and in ANH, he tells Luke “I wanted you to have this” when giving him Anakin’s lightsaber instead of “Your father wanted you to have this”. If there was a version with the Hayden Ghost, I would say they would be perfect for what you want, but you can always combine the Final Cut version of ROTJ with Hal’s ANH and ESB, or make your own tweaks to ROTJ.

Since you’re using the original titles, will these edits be given new names to match the naming scheme of the sequel edits? Might help for people like myself using Plex to differentiate the two versions. Also, would you consider adding back R2 and 3PO to the birth of the twins in the alternative version? The fact that you can still see them in the reflection has always bugged me a bit.

Glad that you are doing these as an alternate option. For midichlorians I would consider the Phantom Edit route of adding back in oblique references but keeping out the exposition dump Qui-Gon gives to Anakin.

Alderaan94 said:

Hii. Are you still working on this? I did try this myself in the past and improved most of the deleted scenes.

Sorry, it’s pretty much been on the backburner. I’d be interested to see your version.

I’m looking forward to this edit! Your Kenobi is still the definitive version imo. Can’t wait to see what you come up with.

I definitely fall into the category that’s not that precious about the universe and pretty open to whatever they’d like to make but the biggest thing for me is that I think they need to start treating TV shows as TV shows and not padded movies split into 6-8 parts. When their shows have played to the medium’s strengths and had well constructed individual episodes and arcs like Andor, early Mandalorian, and the animated shows, it has worked for me.

JadedSkywalker said:
Leia running the government how does that work if the galaxy finds out Vader was their father.

Funny enough this is actually addressed in the canon novel Bloodline which I very much enjoyed.

To weigh in on the Padme discourse, I do like her as a character but mostly because of the Clone Wars and not the films. My favorite female Star Wars character is probably Ahsoka. I think she goes through a really interesting arc in the animated series, although I don’t think her live action appearances have quite done the character justice.

I like that RogueLeader. I think what I was less receptive to was the idea of playing it straight as Rey Palpatine and then just casting a bit of doubt at the end.

I think if Palpatine is consistent in his message that he created Rey, Ben is consistent in his message that he thinks Palpatine is a liar, and Luke’s POV is that ultimately it doesn’t matter, that could actually provide some interesting tension.

I agree that I would like to avoid the flashbacks to Rey’s parents, or any suggestion that Rey is the “granddaughter” of Palpatine through her father. I know the canon explanation is that Rey’s father is a type of clone but in the context of the movie it just brings up the weird “did Palpatine have sex?” question.

As for the question of how it impacts canon, I think the base version of Ascendant is still a great edit for those who want to hew closely to canon, and a Rey nobody version should be less concerned about future canon material if it conflicts with the goals of the edit.

Since V5 of Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant just dropped, I thought it might be a good idea to revive this thread. My personal take is that the whole idea of Palpatine lying about Rey’s identity is overcomplicating things. I personally think a Rey Nobody version should just focus on Rey’s struggle with the dark side and not emphasize the question of her lineage at all. I think the best current take on this is Spence’s edit, although with the use of AI dialogue we wouldn’t have to cut quite as much as he did. I will try to come up with some of my own suggestions for dialogue.

Unfortunately, to my knowledge, there isn’t a pure extended version of TFA. The Force Awakens Starlight edit reintegrates several deleted scenes but it also has many other changes.

Just want to say that as someone who grew up primarily with the SE, I chose to show this version of A New Hope to my roommate for his first time viewing. He really enjoyed it and wasn’t taken out of the movie by any of the updated effects. Afterward I showed him a video comparing the theatrical and the special editions and he was baffled by the changes to the Greedo scene, the Jabba scene, and the extended Mos Eisley entrance. I think this is a good sign you chose the right balance of SE and theatrical elements.

Minor quibble, I saw this text appear in the subtitles, which I’m pretty sure is a mistake, I can easily edit the srt file myself but wanted to let you know: https://imgur.com/ss3LUI2