Octorox

GLogus said:

I hardly think it’s analogous to a scoop of feces. Poppasketti seems to have done a fine job with it.

I think any fanedit made by someone who hates the film they are editing is destined to fail. The best fanedits are made by those who have the ability to be critical but still have at least some respect and affection for the source material, as well as regard for the filmmaker’s vision.

This is a lot nicer than what I would have said…

As a lover of this movie, I’m going to try not to come from a defensive place. It’s fine that it didn’t work for you. But the reason to “fanfix” a film is because you feel the film has potential, and that its potential can be brought out through editing. It sounds like you don’t have respect or admiration for any aspect of this movie, so you might as well save yourself the time by just not watching it.

Sounds fine to me.

Nice! I look forward to seeing it.

It’s so great when the work of fan preservationists is recognized by the people putting out official releases. I just ordered the 4k Disc. I’ve only seen the extended cut of this movie so I’m excited to see it how US audiences first experienced it!

Glad you enjoyed it! As for the dirt and scratches, I think that would require some level of manual cleanup, which is beyond my time and abilities right now. If someone wants to tackle this, I can always share my ProRes file of the upscale without a grain layer applied.

Okay, my 1080p upscale of the PAL DVD (synced to the NTSC 5.1 audio) is available by PM. Here is an album of frames from the film so you can get a sense of what to expect: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Cu6UBCCqG7nrD7GbA. I’m pretty happy with how it came out. At times it nearly looks like native HD.

All right, I’m uploading the upscale now. I’ll let you all know when it’s available. At that point, you can PM me for a link.

My simple PAL Video/NTSC Audio Remix and my 1080p AI upscale will be available soon. Here is a comparison shot:
https://imgsli.com/OTExMTM/0/1

The upscaling process scrubs a lot of grain so in the upscaled version I added a fine 35mm grain plate overlayed at 60% opacity. Should I go even heavier on the regraining? (Go full screen for a better look)

I have a coarser grain plate available, and/or I can increase the opacity. I’m just hesistant to add too much.

tangelo1023 said:

Guiguioh said:

Thanks for this, and i will give your Solo edit a look for sure. Do you have any interest in giving the ROTS novelization a canon clean up ?
(pmed you for the updated link )

Sent. I think Darth Zounds has already done a ROTS novelization edit. Here’s a link to that.
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Revenge-of-the-Sith-A-Novel-Fan-Edit-released/id/90896

This looks like more of a broad fan edit than just an attempt to fit the book into canon though. I’d still be interested in your take.

I have the full library of sound effects from the LEGO Star Wars Force Awakens game if you need those. I don’t remember if C3PO has a lot of lines in the script, but if there are only a few, the C3PO AI voice might also be fun to use.

So I’ve decided not to make any additional cuts, but I did fix a small audio issue where a removed line could be heard faintly in the surround channels. I also removed a reference to Grievous being a “coward” since I just watched the Clone Wars microseries, and while there’s no bridging those two versions of the character, that line in particular bugged me. I’m exporting the new version right now and should have it available soon in the usual channels.

digitalfreaknyc said:

I did a quick-and-dirty screenshot comparison between the 720p Disney+ version with the DVD of Clone Wars.

https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/16669/picture:0

Not drastic but there is a difference.

Also, season 1 does not line up with the DVD so it’s a different master.

So the Disney+ version maxes out at 720P? Has anyone been able to confirm whether or not it’s an upscale?

It does look like an improvement based on those screenshots.

regularjoe said:

Mrebo said:

A very good episode. I was almost giddy seeing the Hutts. The CGI has come along enough and it not being Jabba helps immensely. I still don’t like the lame minor characters who try to be funny, like at the mayor’s office, but more concerning Max Rebo’s trunk is too thin, isn’t it?

I am amazed that with the money and tech that Lucasfilm/Disney has at its disposal that so many of the casually seen aliens look like borderline rubber masks.
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets had more convincing looking aliens!

I feel like it’s probably an intentional choice. They’re trying to emulate the look of the rubber masks used in A New Hope.

Just wanted to let everyone know I’m going to attempt a preservation of this movie, which I have fond memories of from childhood. I just purchased the UK DVD off Amazon UK (spent too much but what are you going to do). I’m going to attempt to sync it to the US DVD 5.1 audio and then upscale to 1080p using Topaz VEAI.

I noticed the US DVD is 29.97 fps so there must be some kind of pulldown going on. To sync to the PAL video to the audio, does anyone know if I should aim for 23.976 fps or 24 on the dot?

Non-Linear Editor. Basically any editing software that you use on a computer is an NLE.

I might as well repost this one I pitched in the Ascendant thread:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rst8qcQxH_r1c_e0y8TYtoMxmrNF4_si/view?usp=sharing

Hal 9000 said:

I’ll reconsider my list of changes, but I really do wish to remain distinct from Starlight and avoid bending too much in its direction, even to include stuff I like. It’s there to be viewed in its own right, after all. One thing that may not be obvious unless you’re thinking about going about editing is that Starlight is sort of a gordian knot and some things about it I like only work alongside more extensive changes.

I don’t plan to use the dice scene or Falcon deleted scene, as much as I enjoy them, for instance. Not wanting a huge revamp, just that there’s a few things Starlight presents that enhance TFA:R’s existing goals.

Sounds like I may have to make my own edit that splits the difference between TFA:R and Starlight then 😛

Btw, I recently watched Restructured with a friend. She mostly loved it, but she felt the scene where Snoke orders Hux to fire the laser again at the Resistance Base was abrupt and drew attention to the fact that it was a fan edit. I’m wondering if that scene is ultimately even necessary?

I wouldn’t add the whispers when Rey shoots the Stormtroopers, or remove the reference to the Death Star (I kind of like that bit of lampshading, even if it is a bit too cute by half.)

Personally I also don’t think the thumbs up moment lands as well without BB8 divulging the base location but I could go either way on that.

Otherwise I agree with everything on your list.

The scene from Starlight I would most want to see brought in is Han hanging up the dice in the Falcon cockpit.

Honestly I think you could be a little more liberal in borrowing changes and this edit would still have a unique identity and reason for being. Imo Starlight’s biggest swing is changing Rey’s arc from a traditional hero’s journey to a more ominous dark-side adjacent thing. That is a clear change in tone and intent which deviates from what the original film was trying to do. The color grading and voiceover changes also feel more editorial: an attempt to shape the film into something else than what I was. I think if you keep these changes out but bring in moments like Han’s dice, the restructured Starkiller base firing sequence, and Kylo on the Falcon, you could make a definitive edit for those who just want an enhanced cut of the original film, rather than something that radically alters the tone and intent.

Very much agree with all of Sherlock’s criticisms, however I don’t agree about the Sith eyes. I feel like the moment does have an impact and if they were too glowy they would start to look hokey to me, like the sharp teeth in Rise of Skywalker. I’m a little on the fence about Sith eyes as a concept as is, they work with Revenge of the Sith’s operatic maximalism but they almost seem too silly and obvious for a more grounded movie like this one.

Just an idea 😏 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rst8qcQxH_r1c_e0y8TYtoMxmrNF4_si/view?usp=sharing

So, apparently Tiktok of all places has a C3PO AI text-to-speech voice available to play with, along with a Stormtrooper and Chewbacca voice. Sample:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rv9EcW2TC9fCRJgC9_uYJWkrCp8XYXGZ/view?usp=sharing

If there were a Kylo Ren voice it would have been a great boon to Rey nobody edits, but maybe C3PO could be used for something else? I know some people had hope it were possible to create an edit where C3PO’s memory is not restored.

DominicCobb said:

Octorox said:

Now that Ascendant V2 is out, I made a Google Doc with what are think are the minimum dialogue changes needed to sell Rey Nobody. Most of these changed were inspired by (or copied from) DominicCobb’s workprint: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cPqS3MOUOwC-t1xQu4rbxbzq4laJ996bjQDPIViOmUI/edit?usp=sharing

I’d like to put together a workprint myself with these changes, I just need to figure out a lossless audio workflow.

Have you cobbled together Kylo saying “but you aren’t”? That’s an interesting idea.

It’s not exactly that, but I’ve tried cobbling something together through sentence mixing. I don’t think it quite sounds right but maybe someone better with audio could take a stab at it. Could this be a good use case for AI?https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RkCrYS16oduwY3fCLmUbkxXAKzjgLhAV/view?usp=sharing

It could be cute as a post-credits scene, but I don’t think it belongs in the movie proper.

DominicCobb said:

Octorox said:

Now that Ascendant V2 is out, I made a Google Doc with what are think are the minimum dialogue changes needed to sell Rey Nobody. Most of these changed were inspired by (or copied from) DominicCobb’s workprint: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cPqS3MOUOwC-t1xQu4rbxbzq4laJ996bjQDPIViOmUI/edit?usp=sharing

I’d like to put together a workprint myself with these changes, I just need to figure out a lossless audio workflow.

Have you cobbled together Kylo saying “but you aren’t”? That’s an interesting idea.

Not yet. That one is kind of wishful thinking but I’m going to try.