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#1331389
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (SPOILERS)
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jordan_winter said:

New to this forum but very interested to see what improvements can be made to The Rise of Skywalker. After some reflection I have grown to enjoy this movie but still think there were some major missed opportunities. One of them being the absence of force ghosts in the ‘I am all the Jedi’ scene. I came across this video today which I think is a subtle way of including them. I would love to see someone tweak this to make it even more authentic. The final flash of the spirits in particular I think is perfect.

https://youtu.be/-OU0UfSkn80

As much as I was initially against the idea, I actually really like this implementation. Would be interesting to see something like this.

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#1331322
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The Last Jedi: Legendary (SPOILERS)
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poppasketti said:

Octorox, if you right-click on the audio file in the bin, select interpret footage, go to audio tab, change Mono to 5.1 and the number of tracks from 6 to 1, that should properly format the clip!

Thanks! Honestly updates to my edits are kind of in limbo right now but if I really get back into it I’ll keep that in mind. I know that re-compressing an already heavily compressed file isn’t the best tactic.

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#1331301
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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DominicCobb said:

Broom Kid said:

I think it’s also worth remembering some people will want the best possible presentation of the Prequels, and even though the D+ versions aren’t as different - they’re still a better transfer than the 2011 blus, correct?

I believe they are the same.

According to thedigitalbits TPM is a new scan which was also used for the 3D re-release (there’s still a lot of DNR in an attempt to blend the film elements and digital scenes) and AOTC and ROTS are based on the old 2K masters (they were shot in 1080p but mastered in 2K) but with additional upscaling and “film look” processing to bring them to 4K. The grades are also slightly different.

The Blu-Rays included in the new set are downscales of the new 4K master, not the same as the old blu-rays.

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#1320711
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What’s a good book series or something to chase Star Wars for a bit?
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I’m going to recommend child/young adult fantasy because ultimately that’s what Star Wars is, and it’s where I’d go first if looking for something Star Wars-esque.

I’m a fan of the His Dark Materials books. They present themselves as child-friendly fantasy much like Star Wars but there’s a lot of meditation on religion in there (It’s ultimately pretty critical of organized religion though, so just a heads up if that’s not something you’d be into). There’s a show on HBO now too but it’s a bit of a mixed bag. I’d read the books first, and don’t bother at all with the 2007 film.

I will also recommend the Avatar: The Last Airbender and Legend of Korra animated series. They are ostensibly kids shows but deal with surprisingly mature themes, and they take some of the eastern philosophy stuff baked into Star Wars and take it much further. There’s a character redemption arc in there that some people feel is what Kylo Ren should have been. Once again, don’t bother with the film adaptation.

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#1318611
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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ChainsawAsh said:

sade1212 said:

RogueLeader said:

Yeah, I think people would just be disappointed because they’re not the same story.

Hal’s prequel edits don’t follow the plots of the books they’re named after either.

But those books aren’t put on a pedestal by fans the way the Thrawn trilogy has been for almost 30 years.

Yup. the only sequel I’d want to potentially change the name of in an edit is The Rise of Skywalker, and only if it was a “Rey nobody” edit.

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#1318578
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (SPOILERS)
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My only issue with removing the Jakku is that without it there are no planets representing the sequel trilogy. Personally I would’ve liked to see Canto Bight added on top of the existing ones, and a prequel planet like Naboo or Coruscant.

As for ROTJ, have you tried removing the Galaxy celebration scenes but keeping the SE music track? Maybe it’s because I grew up with the SE but I prefer the newer John Williams track to Yub Nub.

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#1318141
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Finished!)
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AbramPT said:

Octorox said:

To quote Palpatine, “please don’t!”

I’m assuming you mean “please don’t” entertain AbramPT’s suggestion? 😉

I just remember my Star Wars newbie friends being considerably confused by the reason behind Palpatine’s transformation in LOE. Also, TROS would provide some payoff now that we can finally witness the full power of force lightning redirection that was hinted at in ROTS.

Then again, maybe LOE simply isn’t the ROTS edit for me. Perhaps I’ll finally learn how to use video editing software and attempt my own micro-edits instead of trying to convince Hal to do all the hard work for me!!

No disrespect intended but I really wouldn’t want to see that change reverted. The confusion you describe is exactly how I felt while watching the theatrical cut of ROTS. In comparison, the LOE version seems much more elegant to me.

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#1318114
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Finished!)
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AbramPT said:

Proooooobably not worth mentioning, but in light of Palpatine having his skin melted/torn off his body from force lightning at the end of ROS, would it make sense to include Palpatine being disfigured from his force lightning in LOE? I feel like there’s always been an argument over whether Palpatine was hiding his true form prior to being “lightninged” in ROTS or if he was truly disfigured from the process. ROS seems to clarify that, but maybe I’m reading into it.

Also, I know you deeply want to leave these edits alone at this point so feel free to ignore this post.

To quote Palpatine, “please don’t!”

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#1318113
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread - * <strong>TROS SPOILERS WITHIN</strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

I mean, personally I’d hate to ruin either TFA or TLJ by putting in a TROS scene.

This is where I’m at. I’m not really interested in a trilogy redux as much as a standalone edit of TROS that fits better with the other two. I’ve enjoyed light edits of the other films like Hal’s, but generally I’m okay with the theatrical cuts. Maybe my opinions will change after watching TROS a few more times but I’m not so sure.

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#1317868
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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StarkillerAG said:

I agree with all the proposed changes, as long as you keep version 3.0 available. That way you have a purist version for people who prefer only minor changes, and a radical version for people who prefer radical changes.

All versions are up on the 'Spleen. I wouldn’t ask Hal to keep multiple versions on his own Google Drive as the file size adds up quickly.

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#1317243
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (SPOILERS)
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Hal 9000 said:

“What she has to do now will take all the rest of her strength” or whatever she says hardly clarifies much. It just says “Carrie Fischer’s character is about to go die.”

At least it clarifies that she’s making an active decision to do “something” vis a vis Ben, and that whatever it is requires the last of her power, similar to Luke’s final actions in The Last Jedi. Honestly, I’m not sure the visual storytelling here is strong enough to convey even that, as clunky as the line is.

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#1316115
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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NeverarGreat said:

Here’s another ‘Inspired by’ change: https://youtu.be/BD5mLw0A8vI?t=876

He says that Rose should have been in charge of gathering reinforcements for the final battle. So would this be possible? As far as I can remember she is just hanging out at the Resistance base the entire movie, but could it be possible to insert some dialogue to indicate that she is busy calling up leaders of the core worlds and have them Rendzevous in some place? Then Lando could lead these gathered forces to the final fight.

Man that was a really good video essay. It crystallized a lot of my frustrations with this movie.

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#1316100
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I don’t know, I understand your point, but to me that’s the kind of thinking that led to this movie being overstuffed with fanservice and callbacks in the first place. I LOVE Obi-Wan, he might be my favorite Star Wars character, but I recognize that his part in the story is done. I would have been more okay with some kind of Anakin presence, only because it might created an interesting dynamic with Kylo’s Vader obsession. Even then, I don’t think sticking him in a shot at the end of the movie does much good.

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#1316088
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Darth Lucas said:

Add other force ghosts to the Luke/Leia shot like Anakin and Obi Wan.

With the exception of Ben, I don’t really get this suggestion. Anakin, Yoda and Obi-Wan have no meaning or significance to Rey. They did to Luke, but we already got that scene at the end of Return of the Jedi.

What I think a lot of fans don’t want to accept (and to be honest, I don’t think Abrams and Terrio wanted to accept this either) is that the OT characters are not the main characters of these new movies. The protagonists are the new characters: Rey, Ben, Finn, Poe, and Rose. Any OT or PT characters should be there to support their character development, not to steal the spotlight.

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#1315722
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (SPOILERS)
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I think having Ben live at the end would be quite ambitious and maybe beyond the scope of this edit, but if possible I’d like to see him appear beside Luke and Leia as a force ghost. It would require some FX work but doesn’t seem impossible considering what’s been accomplished in some of Hal’s other edits. I don’t feel that we get enough closure with his character in the theatrical cut.

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#1314956
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Which version of the Original Trilogy to watch?
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It really depends on how much of a purist you are.

If I’m going to watch the originals, I still prefer the Despecialized Editions. They may be stuck at 720p, but for the most part they look cleaner and sharper than 4K77 and 4K83 because they’re sourced primarily from the original negatives. These are reconstructions though, and occasionally seams can be seen, particularly when Harmy had to rely on upscaled Laserdisc-quality footage. When Harmy eventually creates new versions using 4k sources, they will arguably be the definitive way to watch the OOT, but that’s a ways off.

If you want to see versions of these movies that are completely untampered with, 4k77 and 4k83 are the way to go, since they are actual scans of original film prints, with no SE sourced footage. They do look a little “rougher” and less finely detailed, but not moreso than the films would have looked during their theatrical run.

As for fanedits, I think there are two for the OT worth pointing out: adywan’s Star Wars Revisited and Hal9000’s custom special editions. These edits are primarily for people who admired what the SEs were trying to do, but disagree with some of the actual decisions that were made. Hal9000’s edits are basically hybridizations of the original and SE versions of the films and revert some of the more controversial changes. Currently ANH and ESB are available in full quality and ROTJ is available as a workprint. The Revisited edits are much more ambitious and essentially seek to update the films’ visual effects across the board to a more modern standard, as well as fix various continuity errors. Currently ESB is available in HD quality, and ANH is available in DVD quality only. An HD version of A New Hope is forthcoming, as well as an edit of ROTJ.

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#1314725
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Hal 9000 said:

Here’s how I’m planning to handle the “they were nobody” moment in TLJ. It’s only Kylo that explicitly states anything about it, and he doesn’t say that they are buried on Jakku.

https://youtu.be/acSYW8_4Mn4

It works…but it also breaks my heart to see this (imo) powerful scene diminished to accommodate a poorly conceived retcon. I think that Rey looking inward and admitting to herself that her parents were nobodies is part of what makes the scene work. Just my opinion of course, but if you choose to go down this path I will probably stick to earlier versions of Legendary or make my own edit.