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Sounds interesting. Would definitely like to see some clips!

Jar Jar Bricks said:

G&G-Fan said:

He’s voiced that he wants to be done with the Prequels.

And this is precisely why I was pushing for last minute changes he could sneak in there. Imagine in a year or two from now, random newbies to the forum will post on this thread saying “why is this continuity error present in your edit” or “why isn’t this deleted scene that everyone likes in your edit”. My goal was to avoid that headache preemptively, since this is the last time he will be touching them.

Don’t get me wrong, I am very grateful for these alternative versions. Perhaps I should have been clearer about that. I’m sorry, Hal. But I think you’re misunderstanding the motive I had for pushing these things, G&G.

I think Hal has explained in the past that he doesn’t mind leaving in continuity errors and other minor on-set gaffes because he believes they are fun to point out if you do notice them and not really distracting for the average viewer. Definitely a different philosophy from someone like Adywan, who tries to fix all of those types of things. I don’t really have a strong feeling either way about it.

mightyn said:

Not begging for links here, but I keep seeing that this edit is in “the usual place” but have no idea what that means, or even what to search for to attempt to find it. Any hints of how to go about looking very apprciated.

You have to PM the creator. That pretty much goes for any edit. We are not allowed to share links publicly in order to keep the hobby safe.

TheBoogeyman1023 said:

• Bor Gullet. It doesn’t really make sense why Bodhi doesn’t remember who he is without these scenes.
• One shot of Tarkin is missing the deep fake in the first scene. This shot is missing from Shamook’s folder though, so might not be able to do anything about it.
• Krennic commenting on the death star blast, “Oh it’s beautiful.”

I don’t really agree with this. I think it’s more effective that we don’t see it. We can assume he’s been tortured without attributing it to a goofy alien. I do miss “Oh, it’s beautiful”, but maybe the pacing just didn’t work with where NFBisms wanted to split the episode.

As good a name as Andor: The Movie Omnibus is, it just occurred to me that with Rogue One, there will be nine films in this series. Why not “The Andor Saga” as kind of a parallel to the Skywalker Saga? One can imagine a universe of nine-film Star Wars sagas focused on different characters.

As for how to deal with Rogue One, I’ve started watching NFBisms rescore project and I almost feel you could just recombine the parts into a single film and call it a day. His project really fits the Andor tone so well. I would be a like worried about moving Andor footage into Rogue One and vice versa, but if someone comes up with a mockup that works really well, I wouldn’t be opposed to it.

Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

Another small tweak to consider…

• Remove Baze calling Jyn “little sister”

He’s known her like a day at most, that moment has always come across as odd and trying to forcefully add more of a family-type vibe to the group that just isn’t there.

Idk, I thought that thematically dovetailed nicely with the story in Andor about Cassian’s sister. This video explains the connection better than I could: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUvkfaC3hng

In Andor, when Krennic says “unlimited power”, immediately cut to the clip from ROTS of Palpatine saying the same line.

By the way, wanted to say congrats on the “purist” version of Attack of the Clones. I just watched the full movie and I really feel like this is the edit that’s going to work for prequel fans and haters alike. Really the first edit that I think I could watch with friends and not get questions of “why did they cut that scene out?” (Except maybe the Death Star cameo. Personally I agree that it muddles things with Rogue One but there is a Rebels episode based around the Geonosians’ involvement in the design), yet the characterization of Anakin and the romance arc is so improved. It’s a masterclass in achieving a lot with a light touch.

Hal 9000 said:

Fair point, and I guess those lines would be fine. The “fun begins” line was removed because it was an OT reference that doesn’t need to be there, but you’re right that people like it so that may let it win out for a ‘crowdpleaser’ alternate edit.

And by all means, please let me know about that music transition you find jarring.

Maybe it’s because I’m too familiar with the score, but It’s at 15:41 in the current edit. Grevious lands in the escape pod bay, then there is a cut to the bridge where Obi-Wan and Anakin are fighting, and the score is truncated and kind of repeats itself in an odd way. I think if you actually cut a little but more of Obi-Wan and Anakin mowing down the droids it would smooth it out. Essentially the musical phrase would play out once instead of getting cut off early then repeating. I’ll try to provide a video.

I can definitely understand that perspective Broom Kid, I think the reason I struggle with it is that I don’t find Jyn to be a particularly compelling character to center a film around. Her arc, in the material we have to work with, feels underdeveloped. Cassian often took a backseat in his own series, but it was serve other characters that were just as, if not more compelling than him. Elevating Cassian to more of a deuteragonist role I see as taking advantage of all the work the series did to expand on his character, rather than diminishing Jyn. Maybe it just means that this won’t be the Rogue One project for me anymore though.

arabian said:

Would it be possible to add scenes of Kleya, Willmon or Vel anywhere?

Would be cool but I can’t really think of a convincing way to do that, other than repurposing footage from Andor, which would presumably stick out.

Would it be advisable to restore a couple of the meme lines in the Purist version (I’m specifically thinking “this is where the fun begins”, and “I am the senate”.) I know ultimately it’s still a fan edit and isn’t going to please everybody who loves the original version, but I feel like those lines have reached such an iconic status online that they’re absence from the movie is somewhat jarring. I feel this is a pretty different situation than the sand line in AOTC, which is more infamous for being bad. These are lines that I think people genuinely like.

Also there’s an music cut early on in LOE that I notice every time I watch and should be relatively easy to clean up. I Will try to post an example video later.

I think it still works in a less literal sense. He’s been fighting to survive against outside aggressors since his childhood on Kenari. Doesn’t really matter if it was the Republic at that time or the Empire.

Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

After the final episode of Andor, I definitely feel this change should be reverted for the next version of this edit:

• Removed introductory scene to Cassian

Agreed. The question would be how to do it smoothly without reintroducing the surrounding scenes as well.

I agree that the arc released this week was by far the strongest of this season, but I disagree with a lot of people on these forums saying that first two arcs should have been truncated or skipped over. I think it’s all important setup and character work. Andor has always been a slow burn show where the tension broils up over time. Personally, I think this is one of the few Star Wars properties that I’m not all that interested in a fan edit of.

It would be cool to have two audio tracks, one with JEJ and one with Ryan Golden.

aGreatHumanBeing said:

If Padme says Obi-Wans name in that sentence, won’t that make it seem like he is the one she was talking about when she said she knows a jedi they should consult?

Yes, that’s the intention. To sort of slowly create a wedge between Padme and Anakin so when Anakin says “you’re with him!” (Meaning Obi-Wan) at the end of the film it makes a little more sense for him to think that. Earlier in the film, Padme asks Anakin to talk to Palpatine about letting diplomacy resume, and he shuts her down, so she realizes that she can’t really expect him to come through for her on this issue and pivots to Obi-Wan instead.

Personally I think it works better if you keep in a little more of Anakin’s paranoia around Obi-Wan, e.g. “Obi-Wan’s been here, hasn’t he. What did he want?” but I don’t think Hal is really interested in reinstating that bit.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

That works better than I imagined it would. Did you blend the AI and original delivery together?

Nope, I just generated several lines until I got the lip sync to match closely enough.

If yours works better I’m all for it. Here is mine in context: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-htGz0SJHKnjvBfpl40M62rXqhqAWR9l/view?usp=sharing

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Here are a few ones so far. My personal preference is #2 but I haven’t actually tested any of them:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CDGPUx7qz-QOwmsfZFM7hfj7fT0wdnNm?usp=sharing

And of course, if none of these are quite there yet, I can try adding in more voice samples to hone it in. This was just 37 seconds of her lines from the movie.

#2 sounds pretty good. Here’s the one I used in my edit:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RMVssc6jAGk1U7AVKd-0OwraBNyOUHN4/view?usp=drive_link

Hal 9000 said:

Wouldn’t it be a little silly for Padmé to blurt out a name?

Yeah I could see that. My thought was that she’s frustrated and lets it slip because she’s trying to push the other senators to allow her to contact him, but you’re probably right.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

If you’d be willing to slot it into your extended version of ROTS Octo I could look into that for you.

Thanks Jar Jar! I already have the line integrated into my “Another Happy Sanding” edit. I just didn’t put it in the extended version because the goal of that one is to stay as close to the original as possible.

If people are interested I can post a clip later.

If you’re bringing AI lines into the prequel trilogy, one change I made in my version of Ep III is to change Padme’s line in the second “Seeds of Rebellion” scene from “The Jedi aren’t any happier with the situation than we are” to “Obi-Wan isn’t any happier with the situation than we are.” I always felt it was a missed opportunity to not explicitly confirm that Obi-Wan was the Jedi Padme wanted to consult, since it makes Anakin’s later paranoia around Padme and Obi-Wan a bit more justified, and gives more credence to the idea that Padme is “hiding something”, as Palpatine tells Anakin. However, since you deleted the second dream sequence and some of Anakin’s paranoia in your edit, it may not make as much sense to go this route.

I was a little impatient with the Cassian arc at first but personally I wouldn’t cut anything. It’s such a singular work as-is. Maybe would be a cool to see an edit of each arc into a movie, with no episode title cards or credits until the end.

I slightly color corrected the probe scene further in my edit to match the surrounding footage but I’m not aware of a better source.