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#265502
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Info Wanted: Is there a "Deleted Magic" type documentary for the LOTR trilogy?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265502/action/topic#265502
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There really isn't much on the ways of rare footage like Star Wars, and no audio differences like Star Wars has with the Mono/35mm mixes. Most everything is out on one DVD release or another. The closest one could do for this would be to have a running text commentary throughout the movies, maybe including some of the best of the Making of footage.
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#265320
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265320/action/topic#265320
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Didn't know that the Dreamcast stayed around so long after it was discontinued.
I know that there are still games for the Atari 2600 and other Atari systems that were programmed by third parties, and were never quite finished, or finished but not released before the market died on the system that are still being found today and being fan-released. But I didn't know that the Dreamcast still had such active third-party support.
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#265318
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The Non-Biased PS3 Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265318/action/topic#265318
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Originally posted by: Number20

One of the reasons the Gamecube didn't get crushed by the PS2 or Xbox was the fact that they avoided this market and concentrated on the children's market, that was mostly ignored by Sony and Microsoft.


But at the same time, one of the reasons the Gamecube came in with the lowester market share last generation is that Microsoft payed publishers NOT to port some games to the Gamecube (because the X-Box has a higher graphical advantage over the PS2 than it does over the GC)... So you could also argue that had Microsoft not done that, third party support--including some of the more mature games--may have kept the Gamecube afloat longer.

Honestly, I don't really care. I've had just as much fun with my GC as I have with my X-Box over the past five years, but the marketplace tends to lean towards the more mature games.

On an entirely different note, who else thinks THIS GAME would be the perfect Star Wars title to port to the Wii?


I didn't know that Microsoft payed people off to not port to the Gamecube. But I also remember that when the PS2, XBox, and Gamecube was released, most people said that Nintendo was dead and would go the same route as Sega, and be forced out of the hardware market. But Nintendo, by marketing to a different niche than MS or Sony, stayed alive and prospered. They were the only one of the three to make money on the hardware.

Yes, Star Wars Trilogy Arcade would be great on the Wii. That is a fun game.
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#265302
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The Non-Biased PS3 Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265302/action/topic#265302
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
i totally agree with that statement. thats why im saying only time will tell.

to be perfectly honest im leaning towards the fact that the Wii will definatly have the upper hand. But from what ive seen at my work and talked to customers about, the majority of them anyway seem to be graphics whores for the most part, or into more adult themed gaming (see gears of war). Im thinking that will be the only downfall of the Wii. Now although they cant get past the fact of not having much eye candy i think its crucial for them to break this mould of catering towards more family oriented games and start to shake it up a little.

People say they love great graphics, which is only partially true. Ultimately, it is games that sell the system. If awesome graphics were all it took, the Atari Lynx, Atari Jaguar, 3DO, and Neo-Geo would of been huge successes. These systems were sold on their incredible graphics for their time, but they were expensive and couldn't come up with games to attract the masses. So they didn't sell and lesser systems, graphically speaking, won out.

for example, look at Resident Evil 4 for the gamecube. Anyone who has played this game knows how much ass it kicked. It was a different spin on the survival horror genre and it worked extremely well. It even looked damn good on the system too. I'm not saying that Nintendo should start pulling out Grand Theft Auto games or things of the sort, im just saying that perhaps by catering towards more mature themed games, they would be able to keep a broader audience.


One of the reasons the Gamecube didn't get crushed by the PS2 or Xbox was the fact that they avoided this market and concentrated on the children's market, that was mostly ignored by Sony and Microsoft. But yes, they had non-children's games, its just that Nintendo has a reputation for not going after this market. The question is will they continue this, or will they see the opportunity to take on Sony in their niche market?

I would totally love to see Nintendo come out on top, but im just not sure if its going to have the thunder to keep gamers interested for the consoles 4 to 6 year life cycle.


This is my concern as well for the Wii. Is the controller scheme going to catch on beyond Wii Sports or the swordfights in Zelda. Time will tell. I hope it does, but you never know.

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#265300
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Will you buy the OOT again ?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265300/action/topic#265300
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I would buy a 30th anniversary boxset if it had the OUT, fully restored. Unfortunately, I think they won't release it again, or just re-release the recent 'bonus material' release for the OUT. In a perfect world, we'd also get the mono mix for Star Wars, and the 70mm and 35 mm versions of ESB. And throw in the deleted scenes. But that is probably asking too much.
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#265297
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265297/action/topic#265297
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Did you know they are starting to make DC games again in Japan? Also Earthbound was one of my favorite childhood games.


Are these basically homebrews or fan-releases of nearly finished games that didn't get released before the system died, or corporate releases? You can go on sites like www.atariage.com or www.songbird-productions.com and find homebrewed games for various Atari systems, unfinished games, and finished/nearly finished games that didn't get released back when their systems were active. So I wouldn't be suprised to find that the Dreamcast has something similar. The Dreamcast seemed to always have a dedicated following.
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#265295
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Info Wanted: Question about 1980 uncut Empire
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265295/action/topic#265295
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Originally posted by: rancher
Number20, it is interesting to me that many fans enjoy re-constructions of the soundtrack elements of these films. I didn’t know of the sound differences sighted in the original film until I viewed the Deleted Magic. I really did enjoy the de-construction of ANH in that film. I am looking forward to the NTSC version of Jambe’s Building the Empire & will check that out as soon as that is ready.



Lucasfilm put in many differences between the Mono and 35mm/70mm sound mixes, and then the 70mm mix of ESB was different from the 35mm mix. The '04 DVDs were closer to the 70mm mix, and the previous VHS releases were based on the older 35mm mix, so when people heard the differences, they complained about more changes that weren't actually changes. I think that ROTJ is the only OOT film that didn't have changes in the theatrical mixes. Personally, my dream release of SW would have the 35mm theatrical audio mix, mono mix, and 1993 remix, and for ESB-35mm theatrical, 70mm theatrical, and 1993 remix. Maybe someday...

One problem with scripts online is that it is sorta hard to tell sometimes what draft the script really is. I know that one of the scripts from ROTJ floating around the internet is labeled as being an earlier draft than it actually could be.
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#265118
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The Non-Biased PS3 Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265118/action/topic#265118
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Yes, it is too early to call any system a failure, but I think that one can say that these systems have problems that might cause it to fail in the long run. Of course, these problems can also be overcome. The PS2 had issues at launch, and it overcame them and became a great success. But other systems have had similar issues at launch, and never could overcome them, leading to their failure.
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#265047
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PS3 or Wii?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265047/action/topic#265047
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The Will is unique and different. The main issue I see with the Wii is will the controller scheme work for many different games and not get old or annoying. I'm not sure how the controls would work for something such as Madden NFL, but we'll see.

The PS3 has its own unique issues. Fanboyism aside, its expensive in comparison to the Xbox 360 and Wii. I think that it will be unaffordable to many, and others will decide it isn't worth it and just buy a Xbox360. As for the Blu-Ray player included, even if this format is a big success, at this time most people don't have HDTVs and can't enjoy it anyway. Sony doesn't have time to wait for this to change before the PS3 is written off as a failure. PS3s are still very few in number, but can be found in stores today. There are many more Wiis, and they are very scarce in stores. The other problem is that the PS3 currently doesn't have any decent exclusives out for it. Most of the games are also availabe on other systems.

Basically, Nintendo stole Sony's thunder on the PS3 launch. Sony started with all the attention, no one expected much from Nintendo to start with, but the Wii ended up outshining the PS3.
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#264863
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The Non-Biased PS3 Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/264863/action/topic#264863
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
i agree the HD DVD does have a more widely accepted name. but this is assuming that the average consumer does absolutly no research on a High Definition setup when purchasing and therefore is not told about Blu Ray.

anyone planning to upgrading to HD is going to talk to sales associates and sooner or later will come into the Blu Ray name. it seems that many people here think that if someone is going to go high definition all they have to do is buy an HD DVD player and they're there. and if anyone has talked to sales associates or is one, we all know that we don't let customers leave without selling them more than they came for.



From what I've seen, there seems to be two types of people that have HD systems. The first is the audiophiles/techincally savvy types who do know what blu-ray is, and every, or most every acronym there is. They've extensively researched everything and pretty much know exactly what they want before they ever set foot in the store to buy anything. No, these types won't be bothered at all by the name blu-ray or HD-DVD.

The others are the people who want an HDTV and home theatre as a status symbol and to show off to their friends. These people are usually older, and more affluent. They don't know much about a high-def setup, and do minimal research before buying. They buy based on which model in the store display looks best to them, and/or brand name. These are the types who will walk into the store and get confused at the blu-ray name, and skip over it in favor of the name they understand, HD-DVD. So I think the name issue is going to hurt blu-ray. Will it cause it to fail? No, I don't think so. There are many other factors that will go into play in the end. And to be fair, Blu-Ray is not a "Sony only" format. Its gotten labeled as such, but there are many companies that are supporting Blu-Ray, and it isn't another Sony-proprietary technology. But the issue that it is becoming increasingly labeled as a Sony proprietary technology can really hurt blu-ray.

I'm not making a prediction, but I could see that even if Blu-Ray gets accepted as the standard format, many people will still call it HD-DVD because thats what they understand and relate to.
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#264859
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Info Wanted: Question about 1980 uncut Empire
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/264859/action/topic#264859
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
Yeah, sadly the online scripts will only get you so far. Which is too bad because the scripts are out there. Locked up in a safe place no doubt, far away from the internet.

If we could get this thread back on track, it seems that the few differences of this supposed screener version of Empire had only the one visual difference (the end sequence) and a handful of audio differences. Since we have access to a large share of these audio differences from the 8mm version and the Story of the Empire Strikes Back album, and since we have a few "eye-witnesses" to what the final sequence looked like, would it be possible to do a 'virtual' earlier cut?


Yes, this would be nice. I'd love a re-construction of the 70mm mix for ESB.
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#264302
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Info: a CED Star Wars Transfer (with link to info on a released OT CED project)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/264302/action/topic#264302
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I didn't know that anyone had done a capture of Star Wars from the old CED discs. Thats interesting.

CED is a disc format that, IIRC, was on discs that were similar to the old vinyl records. As far a quality goes, the best one could hope for is VHS quality, and certainly lower quality than a laserdisc. And that is assuming that they aren't scratched, which CED discs were very prone do doing, and they haven't been played too many times, which can also deteriorate quality over time, similar to playing a record too many times. The biggest thing this has going for it is the uniqueness of the source.
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#263923
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Info Wanted: Question about 1980 uncut Empire
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/263923/action/topic#263923
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I always thought that the 70 mm cut of ESB had some audio mix differences, but no additional scenes, but this could be wrong. The 70mm mix of ESB is a bit more shrouded in mystery. As I suggested before, try watching Building Empire and see if that rings any bells. I think its on myspleen.

Someone asked if there was a bootleg of the ESB 70mm mix. I think its strange that there were bootlegs of Star Wars with the mono mix, but nothing for ESB. Something I would love to have someday is a copy of ESB with the 70mm audio mix as an alternative audio track, such as some have done/are working on for Star Wars.

I would love for something like this to be true and to come out. But the problem is that until it does, one is going to be sceptical.
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#263796
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Anywhere to keep up on news, or gossip about the archival editions coming?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/263796/action/topic#263796
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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
I hadn't heard anything about them being dvd's. That's good news tho, cause I hate to buy a new media player to get them.


Don't speak so soon. Nobody has officially said anything about if it will be on DVD, HD-DVD, Blu-Ray or whatever. Its been assumed that it will be DVD, because studios have been very slow about releasing things on the next-gen formats, but nothing has been promised yet. We don't even have much evidence that they will do anything this year at all.