NeverarGreat

Fryin High

JadedSkywalker said:

Did they force heal Luke’s X-wing?
I just had to suspend disbelief and not think about stuff like the ship being under water for 30 years. Or his door being made out of parts of the X-wing. The door Chewie tears off its hinges.

Huh. I had to go back and check, but it definitely has markings on it which match the back of the wing, and when it hits the wall of the hut a panel pops out.

The only way I would believe that ship would fly again is if Poe got his hands on it.

He can fly anything.

thebluefrog said:

Burbin said:

• The Holdo maneuver is a one in a million,

This is something that needs to be retconned out as well…after the pretty visual effect wore off, everyone immediately asked “well why don’t they just ram everything if a smaller ship can take out an entire fleet in one shot.”

The “one in a million” excuse doesn’t work since they can just launch every ship over and over and over until it works. If you only need one sniper to take out an ENTIRE evil government, why waste time with waging war, just keep sending snipers.

I’d say it doesn’t work because a one in a million shot would be met with a shrug from the villains, like Tarkin on the Death Star. Hux and company clearly act like it’s an existential threat once they realize what she’s doing.

Best to cut the line in TROS, since it only draws attention to the problem without fixing it.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Episode 5 shows the moment when Anakin realizes that Skywalker is his son, and the film documents his quest to capture him. He is plagued by visions where Luke rejects his offer and throws himself into the bottomless pit, and knows that the future is always in motion. When the pivotal moment is reached, Luke accepts Anakin’s offer and goes with him to the Emperor, and there the Emperor is defeated. However, at that moment Luke turns on Anakin and tries to destroy him. The attempt fails but Luke escapes back to the Rebellion and the Empire devolves into chaos and infighting.

Isn’t that basically TLJ?

So you noticed 😉

The Prequel Trilogy would be an easy remake.

Age up Anakin in TPM, give the movie some attitude with his hot rod racing and contrast this against the doctrinal Jedi Order. Cut Qui-gon and give Obi-wan the agency to take him under his wing and train him.

For AOTC, make Anakin more sympathetic with an express goal of freeing his mother and the rest of the slaves in the galaxy, which gives him justification for wanting more power for the galactic government to fight injustice.

ROTS stays with Anakin as he more gradually loses his humanity to wounds suffered as he fights battles to ostensibly bring the lawless planets of the Outer Rim under Republic security, but he gets word that his mother has died before he reaches Tatooine. The Jedi oppose him in believing that he has gone too far, and Anakin genuinely believes that Obi-wan and the Jedi would let the galaxy burn to uphold the status quo.

The Original Trilogy should not be remade. Therefore, the best way to go about that is to make an alternate Episode 4 and 5 which could exist alongside the originals instead of supplanting them, with the end of Episode 5 beginning a new branch of continuity which will overwrite the Sequels.

The story of Episode 4 would follow Vader as he searches for the Rebels in protecting the Empire he helped create. We see him maskless several times, a figure who has sacrificed everything to safeguard the galaxy from injustice. He recognizes that the Empire does evil, but he always has a justification ready at hand. After the destruction of Alderaan he has a crisis of faith in his Empire. He contacts the Emperor, who assures him that when he takes command of the station he will punish Tarkin severely for his rash actions. The battle with Obi-wan on the Death Star is presented without cuts, with new lines and slightly enhanced choreography where Obi-wan berates him for the destruction of a peaceful world, but Anakin eschews responsibility and blames Tarkin. In his final battle with Luke, Anakin realizes that the boy could actually destroy the Death Star and so intentionally misses Luke’s X-wing, allowing him to take the fatal shot. After his narrow escape, he believes that the Force left him alive so that he could overthrow the evil Emperor and set the Empire to rights.

Episode 5 shows the moment when Anakin realizes that Skywalker is his son, and the film documents his quest to capture him. He is plagued by visions where Luke rejects his offer and throws himself into the bottomless pit, and knows that the future is always in motion. When the pivotal moment is reached, Luke accepts Anakin’s offer and goes with him to the Emperor, and there the Emperor is defeated. However, at that moment Luke turns on Anakin and tries to destroy him. The attempt fails but Luke escapes back to the Rebellion and the Empire devolves into chaos and infighting.

Episode 6 chronicles Anakin’s attempt to win back his son, a son who views his father as evil incarnate. The Alliance has grown in a year so much that it now rivals the weakened Empire. The film contains the final battle between father and son, one trying to bring order to the galaxy through Imperial rule and the other attempting to revert the galaxy to a state of weakened democracy. Anakin finally convinces Luke that to dissolve the Empire would bring decades of chaos and unrest, so in the final battle Luke kills his father and takes Anakin’s place on the throne, ending the war and reconciling the Empire and Rebel Alliance. In the final scene Luke declares this union to be a theocratic First Order, ruled by an order of Jedi Knights and backed up by the power of the Imperial machine.

Episodes 7-9 detail the ruin of this theocratic republic, which takes the worst aspects of the Republic and the Empire and merges them into one. Ben Skywalker, son of Luke Skywalker, must discover in the netherworld of the Force a way in which to transform the government into something which upholds the original philosophy of the Jedi.

Very nice! Maybe some more rotation of the forward part of the ship and slightly less movement in the aft portion would make it more dynamic.

Hal 9000 said:

I’m ready to be done with all of this. I’m committed to finishing this out, including a Nobody cut, but I’m so ready to let this whole thing be finished.

Indeed.

I heard a theory that Bombadil is the gatekeeper of the story. In traversing the threshold of the Old Forest and passing through the mist of the barrows, the reader enters the dream world of the adventure.

But agreed that this style isn’t for everyone. I have strong feelings for it in part because of its meandering prose - It feels like a world in which to live rather than a story to consume, if that makes sense.

jarbear said:

NeverarGreat said:

jarbear said:

Lol, double the Hondo impossible/lore breaking move.

What would a Hondo maneuver even look like?

Sorry, I meant more like what Dominic’s suggestion of having another “haldo maneuvered” Star Destroyer for the Naboo shot instead of the smoking ship. I wasn’t clear. My bad.

And I was just being difficult 😉

jarbear said:

Lol, double the Hondo impossible/lore breaking move.

What would a Hondo maneuver even look like?

They’re definitely still too fast for the size of the ship. Notice how in the Cloud City shot, the smoke hardly spreads at all, mostly staying static as the ship falls from the sky. Also, the sound of the explosions would be delayed due to the time it would take to travel through the atmosphere.

But if that were the case, it would disconnect from our POV as Finn since he appears to believe that Poe went down with the ship.

I agree that something should be done to imply he could have survived, but it shouldn’t be explicit. If we knew for a certain he survived, it would distract from the narrative until his return.

Still, it’s an odd naming convention since Restructured is a description of the primary edit while the other two names don’t really describe the changes.

It doesn’t really bug me though, and I don’t know how to fix it other than something like TLJ: A Collection of Minor Changes which Improve the Film and TROS: Desperately Trying to Save it in Post After the Warehouse Fire that Destroyed the Rest of Our Footage.

CourtlyHades296 said:

Multiplayer-only games have no appeal to me. I prefer single player offline games.

Yep.

Now get out of here with that dirty, popular opinion. Go on, git!

At the end of AOTC, insert a line at the end of the Dooku/Palpatine scene to imply that one of them was behind Shmi’s abduction and death.

Palpatine: You have paid the price for your lack of vision.
Luke: It’s because I’m so in love with you.
Palpatine: So love has blinded you?
Luke: Well, that’s not exactly what I meant.
Palpatine (smiling): It’s probably true.

Yeah, why on earth would you break a theme like that? Poor Tarkin always gets forgotten.

CMMAP said:

Octorox said:

I think nerdy forum geeks like us act broken.

+5

+6

https://i.imgur.com/RSbmUb2.mp4

Broom Kid said:

I don’t think that line needs to be cut - it makes sense as a reaction. Honestly, a lot of people when they first heard Palpatine was going to be in this movie reacted the same way, even though he’s right there laughing in the trailer.

“Wait, do we believe this” fits perfectly.

I’d argue that she should repeat that line every five minutes until the credits.

Yeah, it needs more of the Generals actually listening to it.

TPM - Selflessness Defeating Desire

AOTC - Selflessness Corrupted by Desire

ROTS - Desire leading to Destruction

ANH - The Will to Confront Evil Without

TESB - The Horror of Realizing Evil Within

ROTJ - Overcoming the Evil Within

TFA - The Wounds of Isolation

TLJ - Confronting the Failure which caused Isolation

TROS - Somehow, Palpatine Returned