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#689644
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan (a WIP)
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EyeShotFirst said:

I've done hours of work trying to get Yoda to look right on single frames. The CGI would have to be replaced to look like ESB Yoda. I don't get why they didn't just dig out the old puppet. It would've been a treat for fans.

 In the Making of Jedi discussion, I seem to remember that Rinzler saw the original Yoda puppet, and it was terribly rotted. That probably wouldn't have been a treat to see, and I can understand why they recreated the puppet for Episode 1. Why they made him look different however...

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#689455
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The thread where we make enemies out of friends, aka the abortion debate thread
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generalfrevious said:

We live in an age of extremes. You cannot have a reasonable position on any issue anymore. I don't know how to look for the good in things; can anyone help me?

I'd be happy to talk if you'd like to PM me. I'm not a Catholic but I try not to tread on anyone's deeply held beliefs. Yet from what you've said, it seems like you sincerely wish to decide for yourself the truth of things, and would do so were it not for family concerns.

As for seeing the good in things, well you care strongly about the value of human life. That's a good thing indeed. If you want to start with a small change to improve your outlook, consider perhaps changing the broken record in your signature. It's hard to look at something like that every day and not get discouraged. I'd suggest Beethoven's Symphony #9.

;)

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#689308
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Idea: Han Solo Backstory
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It would be cool to see a young Han Solo movie where Han turns from a decent guy into a rather villainous dude who looks after only himself. It could work if they made it clear that he was once a hero but had to bury that part of himself in order to survive in the galaxy. I'd say animated would be the way to go, as this isn't James Bond; Harrison is Han.

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#689261
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Now with 100% more Inception spoilers (was: xhonzi's Guide to Not Being Ignored by xhonzi (or to get your groove back))
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Alright, I think I've waited long enough to discuss spoilers for this film.

;)

I rewatched it today, so here are some thoughts new and old:

I'm in the "everything was a dream" camp. The reason for this is because of the glaring plot hole regarding Limbo: There is no way to escape from it except to wait it out, yet Mal and Cobb seem to be able to wake up from it by simply killing themselves with a train. This is illogical, and throws everything else into question. For example, what kind of information regarding the rules of the dream should be trusted? I think that Cobb's account of how he and his wife got into Limbo is accurate to a point. They tried going deeper and deeper into the dream world, level by level until they reached bottom. But since a person cannot exit Limbo by dying, they simply must wait it out for however long they have been put under, which could expand into decades.

So it is clear that Mal and Cobb could not have actually woken up after the train incident. Everything after that is also a dream, but is Mal really present during the events of the movie? If they are both sharing a dream, why couldn't she attempt to contact him in the "real" world while he was trying to get back to his kids? The only way people sharing a dream can be entirely separated is if they are on different levels, and since a person can go no deeper than Limbo, the only explanation is that Mal was never in Limbo with Cobb, but instead is on a higher level of the original layered dream.

How were they separated? If they were to explore dreamspace together, and did so for a long time, there would be a real danger of one of them dying while under heavy sedation and dropping into Limbo without the other, leaving the other to return to wakefulness much quicker, at least from their point of view. This is how I interpret the events of the movie. Mal and Cobb were exploring dreamspace, Cobb was killed while they were sedated to go three levels down, and Mal was too afraid to go down after him, knowing that she may lose her mind down there. Cobb incorporated her into his Limbo however, and he built an entire world of (very similar) buildings. He lost his view of reality when he started building his memories (his memories, not hers) and the rest of the movie is him dealing with his emotional baggage of not spending time with his kids and trying to get back to some form of reality, as well as recognizing that the projection of his wife isn't real.

Incidentally, the totems are no use in determining whether you are or are not in a dream, for their behavior conforms to what you expect them to do. All they protect against is being fooled in another person's dream. Thus the movie is all Cobb's dream.

How's that for a necrobump?

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#689179
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something I always wondered about the PT
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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

NeverarGreat said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

LexX said:

Tatooine could be bigger than Jupiter all we know.

A solid, rocky planet larger than Jupiter? Don't think that's possible -- from a real-world perspective, anyway.

 Yeah, it would probably lead to humans evolving into small, child-sized creatures with high pitched voices just to negate the stronger gravity. Either that or large sluglike things that can hardly move.

 Hmm, that explains both Jabba, and whiny young Anakin.

 ^LOL.

I like the Radio Drama retcon that the ships simulate battle noises in space, as it really makes sense when you think about it. A gunner would need all of their senses in order to orient themselves in a battle, especially considering the ships going in and out of their line of sight.

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#689112
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What we like about the Prequels
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I like the idea that we all exist in a dark alternate reality of the poorly made prequels. I can imagine that the happy people in the "good prequels" universe don't even think about what the world would have looked like if the prequels had been bad, but we in the dark alternate universe can think of nothing else, struggling to assemble their own versions of the films from scraps and low quality releases.

This of course will be the next phase of Star Wars preservations, where timestream-hopping preservationists will buy pristine unaltered Star Wars blu-rays from more sane dimensions and release them here.

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#689021
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Star Wars on Super8 (Released)
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That's a lot of red to deal with.

I got some pretty good results by first pulling up the reds to neutralize the grays, then bringing the vibrancy way down and pulling up the saturation. This neutralizes most of the red tint, though it's still there to some extent:

Perhaps somewhere between the original and the corrected LAD is where you want to be.

JEDIT: On second thought, I really don't think that the LAD should be neutral gray, there's no way the sky is going to be anything but red if that happens.

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#688903
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There was a 6 hour cut of the Phantom Menace
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Bingowings said:

I would be fascinated to see it.

I'm pretty sure we got the wrong 2hrs.

I've never seen any stills or productions shots of the filming at Hever Castle so maybe that's in there but maybe they only intended to film some architectural elements (like stairs for Naboo) there???

 Hever Castle gardens are somewhat reminiscent of those deleted scenes from AOTC where Anakin meets Padme's family. That would be an interesting inclusion. Or an extended sequence where Qui-gon et al would sneak around trying to get to the main hangar in order to escape Naboo. But more likely it would have been used for elements.

JEDIT: Found this image of the castle grounds, looks mighty familiar to the look of Naboo:

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#687574
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something I always wondered about the PT
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DuracellEnergizer said:

LexX said:

Tatooine could be bigger than Jupiter all we know.

A solid, rocky planet larger than Jupiter? Don't think that's possible -- from a real-world perspective, anyway.

 Yeah, it would probably lead to humans evolving into small, child-sized creatures with high pitched voices just to negate the stronger gravity. Either that or large sluglike things that can hardly move.

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#687498
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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Just yesterday I realized more than ever before that Star Wars wasn't the saga George had intended, and indeed it wasn't even the original trilogy. It was and should be a single movie experience, and people like myself and many others on this forum who look at it with an eye to interpreting every aspect of the story are missing the point. For all its detail and worldbuilding, it's actually quite dreamlike. You get caught up in the experience and believe it entirely while it's playing, so making it an intellectual exercise does it a disservice. It affects our collective subconscious in a way that few movies can ever hope to do, and something I never experienced upon first viewing, having seen the VHS on small TV.

So yeah, I agree with y'all!

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#687373
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The Hobbit (2014) - Resource and idea thread
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Going into The Desolation of Smaug, I thought for sure that the Legolas/Tauriel bits were going to get the axe in my imaginary one movie edit. But I actually liked Tauriel, they actually invented some good material for her. Her speech about starlight was actually rather enchanting, so that at least should stay in. It goes a long way towards painting the elves as more sympathetic.

Most of the Smaug bits after Bilbo's dialogue with him should get the axe though, that gave me Episode 2 flashbacks. It should be pretty easy to do, after all nothing happens to advance character or plot in that section.

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#687208
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Ask the godless heathen - AKA Ask An Atheist
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Jaitea said:

My mother died whilst giving birth to me but was brought back by the hospital staff, she died again the next day but was brought back again.

As a child she told me again and again that she talked to Jesus on the second time she died and he told her that she had to return to her body to look after her new-born.

My mother and her side of the family were/are VERY religious

My mother did eventually die with complications connected to my birth 9 years later

As an adult I understand that with her strong belief in Christianity that that's what her mind wanted her to see, her consciousness

This does not effect my non-belief

J

 Thank you for sharing this, these experiences are very important to the people who have them and this should not be trivialized. I agree with you that her Christian faith is probably the reason she experienced what she did; everyone sees life through the lens of their beliefs.

But if you want my personal opinion on the matter of what belief system is "true", I don't think any of them have sole claim to the truth. That's not to say that every belief system is therefore valid, quite the opposite. Just imagine how a Christian would feel if they were told by the Buddha during an NDE to return to Earth! People like to think that their minds are as logical as physical reality. I believe that without a constant stream of input from the physical senses, the untrained mind will default to its core beliefs and very little "true" information will enter unchanged by these beliefs. This is probably why there are so many religions, not because spirituality is false, but because the mind usually cannot see beyond itself, even when free of the body.