I want the entire galaxy to be one giant weapon, one which can fire in opposite directions at once.
I deliberately avoided putting a picture of Ric in that post, for I had absolute faith that someone would complete the circle.
As if anyone ever watched Star Wars and Empire then said ‘yeah, I’m fine with this cliffhanger ending forever’
I would’ve preferred that over Death Star 2: Electric Boogaloo, Palpatine’s Saturday morning cartoon method of proselytization, the Empire’s finest troops succumbing like bitches to stone age teddy bears, and Vader’s “get-out-of-jail-free card” redemption.
Well that’s what retconning is for: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/STAR-WARS-EPISODE-VII-JEDI-DAWN/id/15757
Summary version: In ROTJ, Palpatine (who is safe on Coruscant) is using an unstable clone of himself and some disposable troops to lure the rebels into a trap on Endor. The second Death Star is a second chance for the engineers and officers who failed to build an impervious Death Star the first time, and if it fails, all of these engineers will pay the ultimate price for their failure.
The rebels, realizing this scheme, assemble a hastily promoted B-team. It consists of an irresponsible commander who abandoned his troops after the Hoth debacle, a smuggler who planned on leaving the movement, and an ex-princess who shirked her duties to save her boyfriend with a man who sold out the rebels to the Empire. Along with this ‘elite’ commando unit, they send a few modified civilian space cruisers, outdated medical frigates, and lightly armed blockade runners in addition to some miscellaneous fighter squadrons. While the B-team is engaged on Endor, the Rebels launch their main attack force against Coruscant. When Palpatine is threatened by this attack, he recalls his starfleet from Endor.
I want the entire galaxy to be one giant weapon, one which can fire in opposite directions at once.
As if anyone ever watched Star Wars and Empire then said ‘yeah, I’m fine with this cliffhanger ending forever’
Good to hear that the Rebels creators said no to Ysalamiri. As someone on this website said, the Ysalamiri were like if the Bible had religion-cancelling cats that prevented Jesus from walking on water.
Self-serving context: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/What-do-you-LIKE-about-the-EU/id/10207/page/44#966807
I just meant you can shoot someone in the head and it’s PG-13, but show a penis for one second and it’s NC-17.
You can simulate shooting someone in the head. It isn’t real. The penis is.
Not saying I agree with the ratings boards, but I don’t like the idea that simulated violence = the real thing.jedit- THE PENIS IS REAL! NEVER FORGET!
Watchmen is R for (among other things) nudity, yet much of the nudity is CGI.
What?
I’ve never seen Watchmen. Why is there CGI nudity?
Dr Manhattan in his blue energy form is completely nude for a few scenes.
I just meant you can shoot someone in the head and it’s PG-13, but show a penis for one second and it’s NC-17.
You can simulate shooting someone in the head. It isn’t real. The penis is.
Not saying I agree with the ratings boards, but I don’t like the idea that simulated violence = the real thing.jedit- THE PENIS IS REAL! NEVER FORGET!
Watchmen is R for (among other things) nudity, yet much of the nudity is CGI.
So thought experiment: If everyone in nude scenes wore bodysuits but highly realistic CGI made them appear fully nude, would the rating remain the same?
Of course.
I really want to see the Star Wars movie that corresponds to that last poster.
I think that the ending of ROTS was quite original. I expected for Anakin to become evil because of the visceral power of the Dark Side, or because he wished to save his wife, or because he hated the Jedi for being incompetent fools. Any one of these, or a combination thereof, would have been a predictable ending to the trilogy.
What we got was Anakin choosing to protect the life of Palpatine against an attempted murder, with the stated purpose of allowing for the justice system to decide Palpatine’s fate, and the unstated purpose of using the trial to discover if Palpatine actually has the knowledge to save Padme’s life. Immediately upon doing this, he abandons his plan to turn Palpatine in, apparently deciding that he himself must be evil now and a disciple of the most evil man in the galaxy, with his only stipulation that Palpatine save Padme. Nevermind that he has slaughtered a whole tribe of sentient beings and killed countless beings in the Clone Wars; now that he’s party to a murder in self defense, he decides that there are no backsies and is all-in with this evil thing. Then Palpatine admits that he doesn’t know how to save Padme, and Anakin doesn’t do the obvious thing and arrest the chancellor then and there. Instead he murders children, and after Padme is dead decides there’s nothing left to do than to become Palpatine’s lackey for 20-odd years. No reason for his turn rings true, not even his mad lust for power at the end since he believes Palpatine, for all his deception, is still his closest friend. In the end, Anakin turned not because he was evil, but because he was confused and stupid.
That’s an ending that I didn’t see coming, that’s for sure.
^^^There’s something about the depth of field in those last two photos that makes the people look like toys. Very strange.
Of course, and I wasn’t intending to Ronster it up here. 😉 Life’s too short to dwell on the prequels.
So I’ve just gone back and watched the edit from start to finish, and I quite like many of the choices. There are a bit more dialogue deletions than I would like, and some abrupt scene transitions. For example, I think including the droid factory scene (sans R2 and 3PO) would help ease the awkward moment where it looks like Anakin and Padme just waltz into the compound apparently expecting to talk Obi-wan out of prison. In any case, it’s a very fine edit in the spirit of the original.
As to the balcony kiss, I think it may work just fine if set at twilight, lengthened slightly, and placed directly after the meadow romp to imply that they spent a long and pleasant afternoon outside. I wouldn’t mind seeing the dinner scene go, even if we lose the setup to ‘aggressive negotiations’. There’s really no other information conveyed in that scene anyway.
Indeed, it would certainly work better as a moonlit stroll, but day for night is difficult under the best of conditions and I’d say it’s impossible to make natural under bright sunlit backgrounds unless you rotoscope the backgrounds.
Day for night doesn’t work very well if there’s bright sunlight illuminating the background, so the best bet with this scene is probably to set it during the twilight hours. Here’s a quick mockup to show how that could look, with the open sky graded to approximate the previous dinner scene: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/183078/picture:0 There’s some artifacting and it would need to be shot by shot to account for changes in luminosity, but it could theoretically work.
Tape Recording of Star Wars In The Theater From 1977 With My Mother by William Forsche
I love these sorts of things. It’s one thing to tell about how special this film was to people, but for those of us who weren’t around then, this makes it real.
Yeah, a couple shots in Jedi are still screwy as well. And the colors in the ANH duel are really inconsistent still.
That duel is at least watchable in the 2011 version.
You may change your mind if you were to go through it shot by shot. In a few shots, Ben’s saber is actually purple.
My preference, at least for ANH, is 1997 over 2011 because of the colors, though many of the scenes are still too green even in the 97 version. At least most of the gradients exist in the 97 edition, something I assure you isn’t the case for much of reel 6 in the 2011 version.
^So it’s a normal katana with a less functional handle. Got it.
I am not looking forward to see shoretroopers, woodtroopers, deathtroopers, watertroopers, sandtroopers or hover tank troopers and what so ever is about to come.
Then you won’t like Episode 4 because they have Sandtroopers 😉
Technically sandtroopers they were just stormtroopers with some extra gear, which is how it should be in most cases. Since stormtroopers were supposed to be elite units, I am still waiting to see regular army. It would be much better instead of some new dumb ideas.
In the OT we get introduced to Snowtroopers and Scout troopers after ep4. So, did you have a problem with those, or is this just because they are something new? Because, if you didn’t have a problem with the introduction of those, then you are being a bit of a hypocrite.
I had no problem with snowtroopers because the change of armour was justified by the extreme conditions. I had no problem with scouttroopers because they were an entirely different type of unit (i.e. not infantry). I have problem with beachtroopers (or whatever) because it doesn’t make sense for them to change armour just because they go to a beach. It is not an extreme condition like frozen Hoth. If stormtroopers did not require to change armour when they went to a very hot place like Tatooine, I don’t see the reason for them to change it when they go to a beach (unless when they go for R&R, but then they need a swimsuit, not an armour).
Small quibble: The films never actually state that Tatooine is supposed to be hot. In fact, Mike Verta is of the opinion that Tatooine was originally graded to look desolate and cold.
I am really enjoting reading this thread. Ive learned so much since finding this community. The unfortunate, and perhaps serendipitous at times, thing for me is that Im color blind. I can see the blatent anomalies, but the subtle nuances y’all mention often, I just cant see. My one question is, Isnt it hard for all of us around the world to be completely unbiased seeing as that each of our monitors vary in quality and calibration?
Unless you’re looking at an image in a well-lit room with a properly calibrated screen, the colors will be distorted. I have a dual screen setup, and images that appear saturated and subtle on my calibrated monitor appear blue shifted and washed out on my laptop monitor. That said, I don’t think someone should discount another person’s opinions even when they’re viewing images on an uncalibrated monitor, since a certain number of people will view the final product on less than ideal equipment. A good rule of thumb is to test images on many diverse monitors and TVs to make sure that most of them at least look decent, while making your final determination with properly calibrated equipment.
The past month has been somewhat of an upheaval for me, since I’ve basically moved house. In fact, I just got my workstation set up at the new place yesterday, so unfortunately there are no new updates, and I still haven’t fixed reels 1-3. The new apartment is a better work environment at least. I know you’re all impatient for this project and DE3.0 as am I, but life has a tendency to get in the way. As soon as I reach a milestone, you’ll be sure to know.
@DrDre - Thanks. I was looking forward to your project; it looked great and two 1080 color corrections are better than none, but I understand that it’s rather redundant. Good luck with Raiders!
In the audiobook the narrator pronounces it “Lah-ah-uke”
Also I don’t think I would call it lazy because having Luke fight an insane clone of himself is pretty bold as it’s a pretty out there concept. I think him fighting another Dark Side user who is more machine than man would have been lazy.
It might have been a serviceable concept if it were given time to breathe in The Last Command, but as it is it’s pretty terrible. Most of Zahn’s writing on the Force makes it feel like a comic book superpower, rather than a spiritual one. Also, this is supposed to be a pics thread, so I’ll comment on this general crappiness:
Awkward composition? Check. Glowstick lightsabers? Check. Dopey Luuke? Check.
If’s for the same reason she has to park so far away from Unkar Plutt’s establishment - a certain royal marriage has allowed the Solos to take all the princess parking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jjA6ZL0Z_k
This sounds like a not terrible direction in which to go.
The sabers are a combination of the SSE and the reel 5 Tech preview. The preview required significant cleanup, but it had a finer grain structure and so fit better with the blu-ray footage without as much de-graining. The sunset currently uses a combination of SSE and blu-ray, since the SSE shot is quite grainy by itself.
