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#1014451
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Single Pass Regrade of Grindhouse ESB (Released)
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It looks really good!

The hue shift is definitely a part of what must be done for this version. I did a similar hue shift in my LUT way back when the grindhouse was first released:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/154445/picture:0

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/154447/picture:0

I believe this is the correct link:
https://mega.nz/#!fFlhDYBA!hRF4lpAM6wpP984TMlx61RdFKXxL1wn-COz3X8rqrkA

If I were to do it again, it would probably have a saturation increase like yours, though most video players can handle that without a LUT.

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#1008488
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Project #4K77
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I wasn’t trying to start any drama, I just wanted to clarify if this was a new scan or not. It’s sometimes difficult to determine what sources are new or not, with so many floating around here. And that’s exciting! It feels like a renaissance of Star Wars around here recently, with things happening so fast it can make your head spin.

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#1008101
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Project #4K77
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Williarob said:

Two new videos were posted in the last 24 hours, one on some of the new techniques we’re using to clean the film:

Project #4K77 Techniques

and another about the 35mm sources:

Project #4K77 Techniques

Anyone who was wondering, but are they using THAT Technicolor scan will be pleased to see that we actually have a BETTER technicolor print to play with than the one we were experimenting with earlier in the year…

Excellent news! I wonder about this Tech print though, since Mike said he had 2 Tech scans, one in rough shape and one that was quite clean. Are we sure that this isn’t the same as the clean one that he is using? The only print I know of that is in better shape than that is the one used at the Senator theater screening.

Also, perhaps the ending music on your videos a tad loud? It’s kind of startling.

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#1006046
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Neverar's A New Hope Technicolor Recreation <strong>(Final Version Released!)</strong>
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http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/189787

The first comparison is between the HD broadcast colors and my settings. As you can see, the blue is still very prominent.

The second comparison is between the corrected Blu-ray and a combination of Blu-ray and HD Broadcast shadow detail. I noticed that the shadows of the Blu-ray, especially in this scene, were quite pixelated and the Broadcast seems to have a similar level of detail without pixelization, so I am going to use this combination for the scene, and perhaps others. The door is now a very grayish blue.

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#1006017
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Neverar's A New Hope Technicolor Recreation <strong>(Final Version Released!)</strong>
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We actually never see R2 enter the pod though - when he opens the door, he is actually going through an entry tunnel of some kind made of a reflective material. R2 stops next to a door bathed in blue light at the end of the tunnel, but in several shots the blue light is gone and it’s just reflecting the brownish gray of the surrounding set.
Since Image Shack is down for now:
Escape Pod Colors
You can clearly see the end of the access tunnel when the pod ejects from the ship. Granted, there are no visible doors on the side of the pod, but nothing about the pod makes sense as there is also no window looking back on the Star Destroyer. The people in charge of making sense of these things apparently also gave up and put the window on the side of the pod:
Cutaway
And the prop used in the desert doesn’t look like the model:
Desert Prop
Too bad it’s in black and white, but the interior of the pod appears gray in all of the releases, it’s just the door that is blue.
In short, there’s no evidence one way or another as to what the pod door looks like except what is seen in the desert.

JEDIT: @Towne: That’s a good point. I’m going to see how the blue door looks with my final grading.

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#1005991
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Project #4K77
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The circle is now complete: when we started our projects we were trying to match the Blu-ray to 35mm sources, now we’re matching 35mm sources to the Blu-ray.

That still begs the question though, of how they managed to make C-3PO’s highlights look green. It looks like even your program can’t make them look that crappy.

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#1005990
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Neverar's A New Hope Technicolor Recreation <strong>(Final Version Released!)</strong>
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Thine criticism wounds me mightily! Prithee, cast no evil aspersions on the SE, for long it has weathered the slings and arrows of outrageous backlash, and yet the original is safe in the keeping of not a few among us.

But yes, I updated the first post a few days ago before finalizing the scene and yesterday when I finalized the scene I remembered that it isn’t in the goal of the project to despecialize the film, but only to make a ‘best of’ the 2004 and 2011 versions with an eye to continuity and fixing mistakes. The blue doors were clearly a mistake long overdue of a fix.

😃

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#1005724
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Project #4K77
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It’s up to those those in charge of the prints, but it certainly makes sense for the despecialized parts to be cleaned first. The last large sections of the blu-ray for me to finalize are the last half of reel 1 and most of reel 2. After that it’s just small pieces involving lightsaber replacements. I would be surprised if this took me long after the end of 2016.

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#1005227
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Source of the sample videos on starwars.com?
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Are we looking at the same thing? I took a screenshot of one of the videos in question and compared it to the blu-ray:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/189547
It only required a small color adjustment to closely approximate the Blu-ray, and the cropping/warping is identical. The Blu-ray also has more detail, probably because it isn’t compressed for the internet.

It’s the Blu-ray with a small paint job.