NeverarGreat

I really like this idea in theory. I’d have to revisit ROTS to see if the scenes would work there, but it sounds plausible.

I misinterpreted this thread as ‘STAR WARS but every shot comes from a random movie’ as in a shot that is similar to one from Star Wars but from a different movie entirely.

This sounds cool as well, just, you know, not as insane.

Does the ‘Luke staring at Luke through Vader’s mask in Empire’ count? Because if your brain doesn’t register that face as Luke’s, your brain is going to go into a spasm of uncomprehensive terror, as mine did when I was five.

Was expecting decent advice.

Got none.

How evil.

screams in the void said:

well , this is an interesting perspective I never thought of , don’t really buy it , but interesting none the less …https://io9.gizmodo.com/this-theory-shows-why-c-3po-is-the-secret-hero-of-star-1829149241

I think there’s evidence for this theory in the original movie, but after that he was written to be much more bumbling and less crafty.

ChainsawAsh said:

Holy hell, I love those Tech-inspired regrades! Would love to see the movie with a LUT like this applied, even though I really don’t have any issue with the original colors.

And from the screenshots I’ve seen of the BR, Solo is in desperate need of exactly this style of regrade, too.

Definitely agree on Solo. I can appreciate a shadowy Godfather-esque look, but in the theater it was just unpleasant to watch.

Collipso said:

i’m inclined to agree with depheros in regard to the original grade. it just looked so modern/digital. the new tech-based grade is incredible.

neverar, do you plan on releasing this separately as a lut?

Definitely!

Z6PO said:

“STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE” Animotion Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib_4A2CG2Ag

Just about to link that, very cool.

Telion said:

Fair enough, but I think however it plays out it will always be weird that they hug THE FIRST TIME THEY MEET. Like maybe if they had met previously I would get it, but force or no force that scene will always require some good old suspension of disbelief.
Suspending disbelief in a Star Wars movie, unheard of right?!?! Why would anyone ever need to do that in a Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Space Opera about “space wizards with laser swords”?

At first I thought we were still talking about Leia and Chewie and was confused.

But Rey and Leia would make sense even if the Force didn’t come into play. I imagine that even Rey knew what Leia looked like, since she knew so much about Han Solo and Leia was a much more public figure. Leia knows who Rey is, and they both know the other must be in a bad way.

A good thought. My first notion was that they could go into the shot where the Falcon goes to Hyperspace, to differentiate it from the reused shot where it is pulled out of Hyperspace, as well as in the sky in some shots. Maybe when Rey takes BB-8 home? When she has her Reydream as a callback to the Twin Suns?

DominicCobb said:

You certainly have the look down, pretty well executed. Do you have a “technicolor” preset or LUT or something that you’ve created?

Oddly enough it looks more like TLJ now.

I do have a LUT made for correcting the ANH Blu-ray, but this was a new attempt in Photoshop.

These settings actually have more in common with a ROTS regrade I was working on at one point, where the primary difference was a reduction in the purple tones.

There are some things that need further work. It’s overall a bit on the green side, and there’s a process I can best apply in Premiere which deepens the reddish shadows in the skin tones while leaving the bright areas pink and lends a wonderful Technicolor look to the video.

Here’s a Photoshop version of the effect, with some fine tuning for brightness:
https://diff.pics/EKMUxzl1Ag6a/1

Subtle, but noticeable I think.

Vs the originals:
https://diff.pics/mSs9Vzj5NFji/1

I was playing around with the sort of settings that I’ve used for ANH Technicolor, and managed to get a decent global grade for the movie:

https://diff.pics/wU0BdJwG8Naq/1

I also applied a slight greenish vignette to the left and right side of the image to mimic the same phenomenon from the Technicolor prints.

Any sort of description of Vader or his plan would work there, I was leaning into the meditation angle because of his meditation pod and the fact that the entire movie is basically his plan to capture Skywalker.

These are nice. Real nice.

OutboundFlight said:

I’d like to add onto that- the Death Star is not the focus of ANH. They don’t describe how it works. The moths don’t argue on the morality of their actions. The primary focus of the movie is Luke’s adventure.

In Lord of the Rings we have the Uruk-Hai, a new invention that makes orcs stronger. That’s not the sci-fi, it just raises the stakes. Likewise a station with the ability to destioy a planet through magical crystals is likely impossible.

Magical crystals = only likely impossible.

I agree with this.

RogueLeader said:

You could think of her as more of an indentured servant rather than a slave.

JEDIT: I mean as to the fact of what happened, and not the morality of such a contract. Obviously. 😉

I agree that Leia being the leader here helps the logic of the movie, it just makes for a trickier crawl.

It seems kind of strange to switch gears in the last paragraph by focusing from Leia to Luke. Maybe something like this:

It is a dark time for the
Rebellion. Imperial forces
have driven the Rebels from
their hidden base and pursued
them across the galaxy.

Evading the dreaded Imperial
Starfleet, Princess Leia and
her brave lieutenants have
established a new secret base
on the remote ice world of
Hoth.

The evil lord Darth Vader,
consumed in dark meditation,
has dispatched thousands of
remote probes in a quest to
find Leia’s most daring
commander, the young Luke
Skywalker…

You can see some of the TFA crawls working their way into that…

The evil Darth Vader, commander of the Imperial armada, has dispatched thousands of remote probes in an obsessive quest to find the young Skywalker…

RogueLeader said:

@Nev

I think it is implied that he did buy her. I definitely don’t think she had a slave implant since Unkar never used it on her. She’s not Unkar’s property, though, more like an employee.

RogueLeader said:

This is probably a Tomato/Tomahto situation, but you could think of her as more of an indentured servant rather than a slave.

It seems like most “slaves” in the galaxy have implants that slave-owners can detonate if they try to escape. Anakin and Shmi mention having them in TPM, and it could be another justification for why Finn and Rose couldn’t really do anything to help the slave children escape on Canto Bight for the very brief time they were around them.

Obviously Rey doesn’t have one of these implants because Unkar Plutt never retaliates. Now, I think most of the people who live at Nima Outpost are practically slaves of Unkar Plutt, since he is there only means of food on Jakku, but he doesn’t own them. So they’re more like slaves to the system rather than being property of Unkar Plutt himself. They don’t have to collect scrap for food if they don’t want to, but they’ll probably starve if they don’t.

So I’m guessing Unkar just bought Rey so she was stuck at Nima Outpost, and then had her become dependent on his junk for food system.

So did he or did he not buy her?

This line of inquiry raises so many questions I hadn’t considered before. Did Rian mean to imply that Rey was an actual slave, and if so did he mean to suggest that she had a bomb in her head? Maybe JJ avoided the actual slavery angle precisely to avoid this question, since it’s one of the most bizarre and uncomfortable facts in the prequels.

I think the main reason TLJ crawl works so well is because there’s much less to establish upfront, so you can focus on flair over function.

RogueLeader said:

I remember the whole idea of cost-effectiveness being another rationalization for the base, especially since the new canon seems to imply that Starkiller Base is Ilum, the planet the Jedi would go to to get their lightsabers crystals. After the Jedi Purge, the Empire basically mined Ilum for its kyber crystals to the point where you could see the planet’s molten core from space. This makes it seem like the Empire had already dug the hole for the First Order, and they just had to fill it in.

But yeah, when Poe is like, “this was the Death Star… THIS is Starkiller Base!", were they expecting the audience to be like, “Woah! It’s so big!” It’s like they thought Starkiller Base could work if we can make it even bigger and badder than the last two Death Stars!
I almost wish Poe had said, “This was the Death Star… and this was the SECOND Death Star… but THIS is Starkiller Base!”

I almost feel like pointing out the size just makes it worse, like they’re trying to make it seem like a bigger threat by literally making bigger, which feels like lazy writing. I wonder if the size had not been as drastic, or if there was just one massive hole in the base rather than a giant semicircular trench, it would be a little bit more acceptable. I think editors would be better off just cutting some of those lines and just go from “It’s another Death Star!” to “How is possible to power a weapon of that size?” More skilled editors could insert a gas giant or planet near Starkiller Base to establish the base as a moon to help deemphasize its scale, but it’s probably not that big of a deal.

Now I must investigate the potential of such an edit. Curse you.