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#454609
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.: LeeThorogood's PAL LaserDisc Preservation Project :. - '97 SE Finished '95 THX Finished - '97 SE Uploaded '95 THX Uploaded to the newsgroup
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Also, some of Laserman's thoughts on "jaggies":

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-X0-Project-Discussion-Thread/post/148930/#TopicPost148930

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Are-the-PAL-GOUT-DVDs-upscaled-from-the-NTSC-masters/post/246605/#TopicPost246605

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#454520
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.: LeeThorogood's PAL LaserDisc Preservation Project :. - '97 SE Finished '95 THX Finished - '97 SE Uploaded '95 THX Uploaded to the newsgroup
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Hmmm, interesting. Yes, I do remember that effect now, IIRC the grille of Luke's speeder exhibits it pretty badly. I always thought it was a byproduct of my scaling up to anamorphic, but you say it's present on the actual source? I never noticed.

The avisynth filter EEDI2 helped a bit with the jaggies on the GOUT, it might help here.

I also remember that the US DC/Faces discs had a much worse problem, that Laserman described as a misalignment between the fields that make up the frame. In which case, a sub-pixel adjustment of one of the fields may also be a solution, but would only work if the misalignment is constant. I'll have to dig out the old threads on the subject.

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#454483
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.: LeeThorogood's PAL LaserDisc Preservation Project :. - '97 SE Finished '95 THX Finished - '97 SE Uploaded '95 THX Uploaded to the newsgroup
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LeeThorogood said:

Hi guys, I am sorry to report that it looks like ANH has a problem with interlace flicker / jaggies. The problem is most noticeable on horizontal / diagonal lines like on C-3POs shouldar and collar, or on the orb in the Death Star briefing room. Unfortunately it appears to be a problem with either the way the LDs have been mastered or the 1995 PAL master itself as it effects the French audio LDs as well as the Coffret LDs.

I did test using my s-video connection instead of composite to see if that helped but it didn't! :(

As I see it at this point I have two options, I can leave the jaggies as they are or I can try and fix them up as best I can. To be honest I have no idea where to begin tackling this problem, any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!

Many Thanks

Missed this post - I can't remember seeing jaggies on these discs, but there were some strange interlacing artefacts when Han was unholstering his blaster under the table in the cantina.

Maybe a screenshot would help?

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#453991
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.: LeeThorogood's PAL LaserDisc Preservation Project :. - '97 SE Finished '95 THX Finished - '97 SE Uploaded '95 THX Uploaded to the newsgroup
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Jetrell Fo said:

Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking....the DC was CAV....duh.  I'm guessing the picture quality between the U.S. DC and the Coffret Set may be different as due to the region (NTSC vs. PAL). 

No, the differences between the US and the European releases are not down to a simple PAL vs NTSC format - the transfer is from a different master (see my previous post).

Is the Coffret set based off a different master?

I'm pretty sure that the French box set is from the same masters as the French individual releases.

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#453841
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.: LeeThorogood's PAL LaserDisc Preservation Project :. - '97 SE Finished '95 THX Finished - '97 SE Uploaded '95 THX Uploaded to the newsgroup
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Jetrell Fo said:

Figures that all the 1995 CAV sets weren't U.S. ones....LOL.

The 1993 Definitive Collection set was CAV. The 1995 "Faces" releases were from the same master.

As for CAV itself, I believe the only discernible difference really is that they are full-featured, meaning they support FF, slo-mo....stuff like that.

True - although CAV has a theoretical signal-to-noise benefit over CLV, in practice I've never seen any noticeable quality difference.

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#453840
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.: LeeThorogood's PAL LaserDisc Preservation Project :. - '97 SE Finished '95 THX Finished - '97 SE Uploaded '95 THX Uploaded to the newsgroup
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LeeThorogood said:

As far as CAV sets go, it is my understand there was the following:

1995 French Coffret (English Audio)
1995 French Individual Releases (French Audio)
1995 German Individual Releases (German Audio)

There may have been a German Box-Set but I could not see a listing on LDDB.com

I don't know if any other LD sets have the footage I need. Unfortunately even if there was a set I don't have the finances to buy another set of LDs for the foreseeable future. :(

There were also Spanish individual releases, but I don't know much about them. France was the only PAL country to have the box set.

I remember from Citizen's project that the German releases have the opening logo and crawl in German, and side ends have fade outs. The French side changes are in different spots, so he was able to use video from the French discs to replace the logo/crawl and the side changes.

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#453642
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Monsters
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xhonzi said:

There seem to be 3 or 4 classifications:

Human or might as well be human Character:
Luke
Ackbar
Greedo
Twi'leks
Yoda

Alien, but still pretty human (maybe humans with learning disorders, or too much TV during development years)
Chewie
Ewoks
Sandpeople
Gamorreans

...

I would put Chewie in the "might as well be human" category. He's like a frighteningly huge hairy biker with a bad attitude, who also happens to be good at fixing engines.

Ewoks are akin to a lost tribe of primitive humans hidden in a remote part of a South American rainforest - the Empire's presence on their planet being their first contact with the "modern" world.

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#453640
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Favorite Star Wars Book?
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I enjoy flicking through The Essential Guide to Characters - released in the mid '90s, it's refreshingly free from prequel references (see C3PO's back story, for example).

When I was a kid I had this Star Wars activity book which I'd like to see again. I can only remember a couple of pages from the book: there was "how to make a Darth Vader dime bank" (being a British kid I had no idea what a "dime" was), and a Vader afterimage-type optical illusion (stare at the centre of this image, then at a blank wall, and Vader will appear before you). Did anyone else have this?

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#453257
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Working .AVI file shows no video in Womble's Input/Output windows.
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This:

-According to the "properties" of the video file in Womble, the video is of the "ffdshow Video Codec" format. I have ffdshow installed, so it sounds like it should work.

is confusing. I think that Womble is reporting that the video is being decoded by ffdshow, but it doesn't actually know what codec is used for the video encoding.

I suggest you try and find out more details about the file - load it into VirtualDub, or try GSpot/MediaInfo on it.

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#452941
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Delete
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You're not the only person he has contacted asking to be let back on.

But, as I explained to him, the forum software does not give me the option to unban an account, only Jay can do that. And as he seems to be a little bit mental, he's going to have to make a very persuasive argument to Jay before he will be allowed back on the forum.

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#452121
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.: LeeThorogood's PAL LaserDisc Preservation Project :. - '97 SE Finished '95 THX Finished - '97 SE Uploaded '95 THX Uploaded to the newsgroup
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Jetrell Fo said:

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Is the picture quality any better on this set than the other region releases?  I know I had read the the Japan pressing of the Faces set wasn't as good as the U.S. release which surprised me greatly considering.

The PAL laserdiscs are from a different master - you can see by the different framing (some shots are more zoomed in) and different colour grading (Tatooine's sand is a redder brown rather than yellow). The image is better in many respects - less dirt on the film, less aggressive DVNR, fewer jaggies and less gate weave.  

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#451676
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Delete
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I got a PM from JediTray too; he asked for his account to be removed. He must have got bored waiting for me to log on and read my PMs, and decided to "quit by mod" instead.

He also suggested that he might want to return under the same name in the future. JediTray - if you're reading this - the only way you're going to be able to return to this forum is by using a different name, posting from a new IP address, making no mention of your former identity and being very good at pretending to be someone else.

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#451671
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Need advice on editing programs for a project
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So what format are the episodes with original audio?

The easiest method is to use two instances of VirtualDub at the same time; one with the DVD video and the other with the TV episode. Cut out sections of the TV episode file as necessary to make it exactly the same frame count as the DVD video, export the audio, convert to AC3 (using Aften), mux with the original DVD video (using Muxman) than replace the title on the DVD (using Vobblanker).

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#451287
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//Star Wars Begins\\: HD Version Now on Vimeo
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captainsolo said:

Jambe Davdar said:

Oh and to keep interest buoyant, here are some pics I took today:

      

NOW THAT'S WHAT A FINAL CUT TIMELINE SHOULD LOOK LIKE!

JD, you really should consider ditching your Mac and getting a PC instead. Us Windows users have a handy "Print Screen" button, so you'll never have to take a photograph of your monitor again!

;-)